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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > That journalist from before with another question Author Post magazinewriter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/27/2010 9:11:41 PM   Hi, I'm the journalist who was working on a story on the FMB industry for Eastern Europe a while back. Thanks to those of you who provided helpful feedback before. I'm writing some additional material and this time, I can use anonymous sources. All I'm looking for are basic, nuts-and-bolts steps one should take in finding a wife through an international marriage broker--steps like signing up with a reputable website, signing the IMBRA release form, buying a ticket to Eastern Europe, getting a foreign fiancee visa, etc. If there are other specific steps one should take, it's much appreciated; these will be useful to men reading the article so they know what to do (and what not to do). bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2010 6:01:13 AM   if you want to find a wife first you need to know what you are looking for. the first rule is never send money and you don't get scammed. then use a couple forums such as this to find information on places to stay and what to look out for. In the past 4 years I have used 3 different web sites but wound up meeting my fiancee when I was introduced to her by a friend. if I had to recommend a site I would say Elenasmodels would be what I would use if I started over. well the IMBRA law seems to be a mystery from what I have learned it is being left up to the embassy when you apply for a visa. the fiancee visa process is quite simple once you have the required forms and evidence needed to show you can support your fiancee. a site called visajourney can show you what you need. depending on the country it takes an average of 5 months before you can schedule an interview for a visa. before booking a flight you will want a few local contacts unless you speak some Russian. most people rent an apartment since it is much cheaper than a hotel and they can provide transportation at reasonable rate. for the flight i use kayak and no matter what day I fly the best rates are on Wednesday. you can look at easyukraine for few tips on booking flights and what to pack. baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2010 9:47:49 AM   The reputable site already have spelled out what to do so there is no need to ask here. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2010 12:10:32 PM   Be nice, Baron. The site was spelled out because he asked. He might have some additional incidental questions. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2010 12:27:14 PM   your story lacks sincerity. first you are doing an article. now you want to 'provide men with helpful hints'. since when have you become a champion of the international dating scene? now you are writing additional material. where should I look to find the first article you've written? people occasionally advertise here for one thing or another. post the link to your previous article please. I must assume it was published somewhere. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2010 5:22:46 PM   I love the (naive) expression 'marriage broker' :) magazinewriter, Back to the drawing board for you I'm afraid, there are no international marriage brokers, these are not 'arranged' marriages/relationships, it is merely internet dating except on an international, rather than domestic, level! I bet your article is a real eye opener!!! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2010 8:39:50 PM   http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marriage+broker noun someone who arranges (or tries to arrange) marriages for others [syn: matchmaker]. I thought it was dating AND marriage. Of course, there are those who advertise, and all they want is money, not service, but that is true for all businesses. Look at the names of the websites: mailorderbrides.com, fiance.com, army-of-brides.com. The two websites I used, globalladies and army-of-brides were IMBRA compliant or at least partially. They asked if I have been an abuser, how many times I had been married, etc and they said this information will be disclosed to the respondent. They even have lawyers to do paperwork for marriage, of course for a fee. If this is not arranging for marriage, I don't know what is. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2010 2:27:31 AM   Just for the record: "international marriage broker" is a term defined, and referenced, by a law of the USA. Whatever one may think about this term, it does have legal significance for US citizens. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2010 2:36:27 AM   Durak, I didn't realise that and it is a stupid term. Surely the people reading, to learn from, the article may not be familiar with the term and may genuinely believe that there are brokers out there that, for a fee, will arrange a marriage for one with some young hottie or similar!!! Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2010 7:12:56 AM   The New Colossus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Emma Lazarus This is the sonnet engraved at the Statue Of Liberty. It's premise is that all are welcome to the FREE LAND. Unfortunately or not, there wasn't a limit put on it. And now it is just another forgotten poem. A newer version would have to include' 'Come all you Spanish speaking illiterates, criminals and vagabonds. Come to this place where you will be given the keys to the city, the privilege to be cared for without even the slightest contribution of yourself and a free pass around the immigration process that others must endure.' Take the easy route and find an illegal Mexican and marry her. It is a lot tougher bringing an educated woman from Russia who does not want charity and wishes to contribute positively to your society. One who doesn't understand why there is a "push 1 for English, push 2 for Spanish" feature on the United States immigration phone service. One who spends hours a day perfecting her English so as not to appear as uneducated even though her English is much better than many born in this country. It is truly amazing. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2010 8:41:00 AM   http://www1.american.edu/ted/bride.htm for the writer and others... interesting read. form you own opinions. Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2010 1:56:54 PM   Ralph, should this be a bad time to mention I'm in Peru on a few Latino dates? Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2010 2:21:57 PM   Muzzy, you do get around don't you. Not at all. I lived in So Cal, I know many Latino types and have friends of many colors. I got off on a tangent over the whole mess with the criminals sneaking into the country and then getting pampered. Every night in my local area there are shootings, muggings assaults etc. etc. etc. - and GUESS WHO? It is largely (90%) the illegal alien community and their homies perpetrating these crimes. My first wife was half Argentinian-half Filipino and half Scottish. Ha-ha. Those green eyes with that olive skin! I have nothing against Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, or anyone who's origin ends with an 'an'. I just sizzle over the fact my country is falling apart. And no, there is nothing 'I' can do about it if I wish to remain employed. Just make sure you have a 'master plan' in Peru. Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2010 7:16:53 PM   "Breathe in, breathe out, repeat as necessary" - One master plan :) I know what you mean mate. In society as much as anything else, the "squeaky wheel gets the oil". With the kids I work with, 90% are called 'mainstream', and behave fairly well. 9% are 'at risk' (meaning they 'could' be influenced to behave badly), and just 1% are the regular offenders and anti-social behavers. Guess which group gets the government money thrown at them? The message is clear: stay in school, be polite, do well, be ignored by the powers that be! beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2010 9:20:10 PM   "My first wife was half Argentinian-half Filipino and half Scottish. Ha-ha" Must have been quite a women!!! Add her parts together and you get 1 1/2 women!!!! Ahh Muzzy, Peru!!! Anywhere near Lima??? :-)) Gotta see Machu Picchu!!!! I wouls have ventured in to Columbia( Medillin) or to Brazil where for some reason there are tons of hotties in a town called Belo Horizonte!!! durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2010 1:06:00 AM   @Ivor: I certainly understand your point. I don't mind the term so much, but the law that defines it has some elements that seem foolish to me. elenasmodels -- which is an International Marriage Broker within the meaning of US law, and is one of the small percentage of firms that seems to really meet the requirements of that law -- does advertise a service whereby (in exchange for several thousand dollars, I believe) they say, "We will work until you are married." Not meaning to be argumentative, but rather filling in the facts. I'm an amateur student of math -- a statement that is true of an infinity of cases (for example, all prime numbers are odd) is nonetheless a false statement, if there is even one exception. So, three professors were riding together on a train into northern Britain. After the train had crossed the Forth bridge and passed into the countryside, they saw through their window a solitary black sheep. The sociologist said, "all Scottish sheep are black!" The physicist said, "some Scottish sheep are black." The mathematician responded, "in Scotland there exists at least one sheep, at least one side of which is black." Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2010 3:21:29 AM   Durak, So, I presume, within US law there is no such thing as 'online dating', it is all 'marriage brokering'! :) And I guess some politician decided this! ..... PLEASE don't let that politician have any nuke launch codes. :) durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2010 3:51:55 AM   A. If an online dating site doesn't specialize in connections between US citizens and foreigners, or has the same access and fees regardless of gender or country ... then it's not an IMB within the meaning of US law, as I understand it. For example, if an American met a Russian through vkontakte.ru, the special requirements of this law wouldn't apply. B. Our benighted congress doesn't have access to the codes, except that one member would if the president and vice president somehow vanished. It may be a comfort to you (it certainly comforts me) that under normal conditions (that is, without first going to the maximum state of military alert, DEFCON 1), an authenticated launch order would probably not be executed (in Pentagon-ese, the negative controls are quite properly stronger than the positive controls). C. On the other hand, when the US first put "combination locks" on US warheads in the 1960s, a certain general ordered that all of the combinations be set to all zeros. (This was since corrected.) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2010 5:17:08 AM   Durak, You mentioned Elena's Models previously, let's use EM as an example, well EM is run by a Russian, who married a South African, originally hosted from S. Africa and more recently Australia. It cannot be said that EM's specializes for US nationals, whilst there may be more US nationals seeking thus a high percentage of US customers EM specializes for men of the world and not men of one particular country or continent. magazinewriter said: "All I'm looking for are basic, nuts-and-bolts steps one should take in finding a wife through an international marriage broker--steps like signing up with a reputable website". By the definition of IMB you have quoted then EM cannot be considered an IMB and I would suggest the only online dating sites that may be comsidered IMB's are those registered in the USA. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2010 10:00:45 AM   Apologies, Ivor -- I got it wrong above: the "or" should be "and". EM doesn't specialize in the US, but it also doesn't have equal access and fees (the ladies pay nothing). It is definitely an IMB by US law. And that is why (being a better-than-average shop) EM follows the IMBRA rules. So, when an American EM customer and his betrothed are working on her visa, they can truthfully tell our State Department that the disclosure rules were followed. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > That journalist from before with another question
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