Did anyone else get a letter (suspicious looking template) from 18681 making them feel guilty for not sending flowers?
I wouldn't mind only this girl had never written back to me after first mainling her 5 days ago, yet she somehow thought things were serious between us! LOL
That's a new one to me, I like to know someone first, even a reply would be nice, before being told I'm in a "serious" relationship. I'm surprised I'm not already married to her but didn't know it.
lol. shame on me. I'm sure I would have been entitled to a bulk discount for about 200 orders. :)
I read today on google somewhere that it's bad to send an EVEN number of flowers, something to do with funerals. nice. (1,3,5,7 etc is the recommendation)
It's probably just as well I never sent a dozen roses, she'd have killed me. lol
I'm not daft enough to send any girl flowers who I DON'T know. I don't care how gorgeous they think they are. I'm gorgeous too. ;-)
yep the even thing is correct my friend.....it's considered bad luck in the FSU,always make it an odd number......and I also beleive that yellow flowers are often used for funerals too.
I'm a sucker for pretty blondes though but have found it easier as I've gotten older to turn them down which in itself is quite satisfying as they're not used to it.
A natural look is definitely preferred esp. if it's the first thing you see in a morning. Now that I come to think about it, Gladiator, I met Jo Guest in Liverpool at a company party and gave her the cold shoulder. lol ;-)
...she was gorgeous though in real life. daft bugger. :)
Actually: "Yellow roses usually stand for decrease of love, jealousy, "try to care”." according to a Russian web page. (I found out the hard way, by the way, my first Russian girl informed me that her favorite color was yellow - so the first night she stayed over I got up early to surprise her with flowers at breakfast. Yellow ones. She was less than pleased.) So if twelve is bad because its eve, should it be thirteen (also unlucky) or eleven (which is less). My girl prefered thirteen - and not yellow of course.
If you don't get them flowers, you're in trouble
If you get the wrong number of flowers, you're in trouble
If you get the wrong colour, you're in trouble
If you get them flowers for no reason, you're in trouble because they're wondering that you've been up to something. lol
just take the flowers and let me have the chocolates,
I don't care what colour or how many there are but I will be offended if you eat my last one. :)
None of you guys ever do homework? Especially you Jet, travelling often or at least regularly.
You all should start reading, and remember the stuff for a change? Make notes otherwise, or keep a little black book, but make damn sure you know.
Even & Yellow has a negative meaning, and forget about indicating jealousy (yellow) or something. Odd numbers only, any color, unless you insist on red roses (same meaning).
Also, you DO take your shoes off indoors, right behind the door.
And you bring presents, appropriate one's (read yourself), when visiting others, and toasts during socializings have meanings - know them.
And the list continues, and if you do not adhere to at least some of them you show plain ignorance, with it demonstrating zero respect for the country's cultural aspects hence for her as well.
Imagine her burping and farting anywhere, just because it's normal there. You will be seriously doubting her at a minimum, and you not adhering to absolutely basic behavioural habits is exactly the same.
If Mitya reads this he might want to add or comment? Your reading is interesting indiun :)
Thunder - I know the rules better now. Trust me. I am simply recounting errors made in learning them (and these errors were made before I discovered this forum). Live and learn.
For newbies like myself, it's nice to read what problems others have encountered in their learning in addition to doing background reading as time suits. Hindsight is always a wonderful thing.
fully agree with all that. However not with 'time suits', create it, especially if you are busy communicating already, unless you're not really serious of course.
But if so I'll mention the classic again, www.womenrussia.com I think it is. Elena Petrova's guide, however there's plenty others which can be found by using a SE, just feed in info, women, russia.
a very valid point dma brings up here.
Editing just after posting, I suppose with a time-out function, would be darn handy, i.e. not editing weeks later.
Get your IT-man to look into it maybe?
Dear friends!
My name is Nata, I the woman from Russia.
Excuse, but I can not be kept from a retort to your conversation. If the woman speaks and the more so negatively reacts to color of roses and their quantity - she is not so clever and brought not so up. If the woman communicates with men from other country, she should unityvat some difference in traditions and to be tolerant. If the woman does scandals concerning color of roses and their quantities - that waits for you further? In Russia speak: " roads not a gift, the attention is expensive ". If the woman chooses a gift, instead of appreciates your attention and your desire to make to it pleasant, it is serious occasion to reflect. Personally I think a bouquet from yellow colors very stylish and elegant, and in Japan yellow color - color imeratorskogo houses.
I wish success, do not search for a problem there where they are not present
Say you meet two men, identical twins. They’re really identical in all respects, but for one thing: one seems to know about a lot of your behavioral customs and adheres to them, the other does just about everything wrong and seems embarrassed when he finds out.
With other words, one is confident and indirectly shows he knows, the other makes life for himself a bit difficult and stands out in company for the wrong reasons.
Which one would you like best?
;-)
Thunderdome,
Unfortunately my level of English = 0 and I am not sure, that have understood all correctly.
A situation offered for discussion - unreal. Whom I prefer or I choose. If I am a manager on the personnel and I choose from two candidates - probably, with other things being equal I shall choose the one who knows rules and carries out them. Thus always there is a fear - as far as this following to rules sincerely.
But if it concerns private life - I can delete from a circle of the friends and familiar neither "correct", nor the one who for any reasons does mistakes, but experiences, and, hope, aspires to correct. I - not Jesus Christ and not Deva Maria, in my life was many mistakes, and I am grateful to those people which have not put on me " a black label ", and have helped to become better.
But it seems to me, that a situation which has suggested to discuss dma - other. The question is how very poorly familiar girl reacts to your gifts / flowers. It seems to me, that in any society, in any culture such reaction should cause vigilance and is very indicative. If you are married and overlook to congratulate the wife in an anniversary of your wedding - negative reaction of the wife is clear to me.
It is impossible to demand something from the person, not having showed similar requirements to itself
The issue seems not one sided.
Respect in any relationship should be two-way. Remember that where there is likely a custom difference, tolerance and understanding should be two-sided, not one traffic. It's the gesture that is important and the learning from it. Continued ignorance would be of concern.
My initial post as nata highlights that to 'demand' flowers for not even communicating an initial letter, seems strange behaviour. The girl in question has since half apologised but I am now playing hard to get . :)