the french did an experiment with guillotine deaths, to see if life carried on last century, i cannot remember outcome, i think it was inconclusive:)
while we are on the other subject i would be very keen for anyone to pm me on getting around or though the red tape with brown bear hunting in Russia.
it seems from my investigation the easiest way is hired guided hunts around 13,000- 15,000, which is more assassination style then hunting, not my thing..
to get skin out and firearm, such is easiest avenue sadly, there must be someone there not catering for rich dummy's.
bear licenses are around 2500US$ i was told?, the firearm side is tricky also when things need to be kept legal, so guide style is the way.
yes i know i should travel to America for this, but numbers are far better in far eastern Russia.
and I'm very particular on skin conditions, which comes back to numbers avalible.
sorry Danny i want a bear rug to go with the Tahr, Chamois, Deer, Goat and other skins through the house:)
and really the other skins are just not getting the reactions off PC people I'm wanting, need to lift it up a bit:)
when i traveled to far east to meet a girl, i ask her what she thought of this, hunting bear, to see her reaction in general (hunting is a big part of my life), her answer was "ohhh we have a bear arm in freezer" well that sold the farm for me.
oh yeah Danny, put salt water lobsters in fresh water before cooking, they die humanly very quickly, bit cruel that hot water thing:)
and seems to taste better cooked in sea water.
I once watched a video called, "Faces of Death". Somewhere in the middle east or eastern Asia, they have tables with a round hole in the middle. That's where the neck of the monkey goes. They eat and a live monkey's head is on the table. They open its skull and eat its brains while the monkey is still alive. I think this is what they tried to portray in one of the Indiana Jones movies, without the cruel part.
I developed an allergy to raw shrimps as a young adult. I no longer eat them. With the proper ingredients, it is good. In the Philippines, it is taken a little further. It is called jumping salad. It is still jumping in the bowl and it is still alive when you eat them.
danny!! It must be different by you, very little goes to waste here. If people want to hunt, but don't want the meat, they can give it to someone who does. We also have "food pantries" or places that help feed the poor, people can drop off the whole deer by them, hopfully it is field dressed!!??
Deer are all wild here, we don't have many deer farms. We do have a few Elk farms, but they raise them for their felt, and not for the meat.
kiwi; I have no idea what of what the process is, for legally hunting in Russia, but I know a guy who hunts in Russia from the Ukraine??? Your best bet is to hunt on Kodiak Island in Alaska! Big,, Big,,, Big, Bear!!!!
the hunting debate will go on forever, just like abortion, the death penalty and taxes.
I dated a lady many years ago that was afraid to tell me she was a researched scientist and "worked with" live animals. And I don't mean they were co-workers.
kiwi - go online, there are several guides who will get you to Alaska cheaper than Russia.
Danny - you will be interested to know that a park in Philadelphia is closing at night to allow "hunters" - hired sharp shooters - to kill a few hundred deer. Around here they have no or very very few natural predators. With the development of land there are many small pockets that are an oasis for deer to mass produce. they are kind of like mexicans.
the deer populations around here are far greater than they were 200 years ago. and we don't breed them and turn them loose for hunting. more people are killed by deer every year in the US than any other animal. Although it is not their intention, there are more car accidents every year caused by deer than drunk drivers. what is the solution? I don't know. But I certainly don't feel bad about killing a deer - yes I use almost all of the deer for food. The skin is given to a glove maker. And I don't care about antlers. unless it is a trophy deer - I never got one - the antlers go into the forest and are used as they are every year for small animals to get minerals. Did you know deer shed their antlers every year?
I saw an ad on TV last nite that made me sick. huggies wants us to donate 5 bucks or so to get diapers to those needy families who can't afford them. WTF??? do what my parents did when I was young. use real diapers and wash them. Don't keep filling up our landfills with disposable diapers!!!!!!! what a crock of shit! sure I want to donate money to bUy disposable diapers - possibly one of the worst pollutants of our time - for illegal aliens. OH! and get this, the fucking PC police now say they are no longer illegal aliens, the are "UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS" I'm thinking about converting all my money to yen while it is still worth 70 cents on the dollar. I'm done.
danny; They aren't too happy about it!! If you want to get a reaction out of them,,,,, just show the head of a dead moose to them!!! lol Some understand hunting, but they don't want to see it!
My Irina wasn't into hunting,,, but she wanted to fire a gun! She said; I want to shoot something!!! I got a bad vibe out of that,,, and never did show her how to shoot!! I thought there would be more time too??!!