another agency I discovered calling themselves "cindyagency"-they have a woman there that sits in the office she speaks perfect english but she is the worlds biggest liar.
She said the girl lydmilla I was supposed to be meeting was too ill in bed to see me,
then I saw her (lydmilla ) as I was walking through dnepr with freelance interpretor ,I asked interpretor to approach and go speak the lady with to confirm.yes it was lydmilla lady I had been writing to for 5 weeks previous.It was cindyagency woman in office told lies.lydmilla not ill!!!!!!!!
Cindyagency criminals liars- avoid
there would not such a high divorce rate if the laws did not force people to be legally married in the first place. this is one of the reasons those who play for the 'other team' are so insistent that they be allowed to be legally married. whether or not you believe in a relationship between people of the same sex, it happens and has been happening for a long time. I know a couple who has been together for well over twenty years but they had no reason to "get married" because they both have very good jobs and have no need for the other to support them through health care etc. I know 'normal' couples who have been together forever that are not married. the problem lies with the states and national laws to which employers are bound and usually enforce. as well as laws that provide for spouses those certain benefits of social welfare and death benefits. sure they recognize the term 'domestic partner' now and civil partnerships. but it takes a lot of proof to get benefits for a partner based on this. to prove you are married only takes a ten minute "I do, I do, I now pronounce you" and the registration of paperwork. but of course you must also pay the upfront cost of a marriage license. and by the way, it is the only license in America you do not have to pass a test to get. and it is much easier just to get married than to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a couple bound together forever by reasons well beyond a piece of paper. a good number of 'marriages' occur for the wrong reasons. many great relationships are ruined by getting married. marriage and divorce are a social stigma that will continue to scar many people for a long time. the solution? ELIMINATE ABOUT 90% OF THE LAWYERS. ;)
The ranking I posted came from a huffingtonpost article. The numbers from most countries came from the above table for 2008, but the US number seems to come from US census data for 2009 (the US was one of many countries missing from the UN table, because those countries didn't sumbit sufficient statistics to the UN).
The measurement, called crude divorce rate, is the number of divorces per thousand of population per year. Obviously, there are other ways to measure divorce that could give different rankings (for example, divorces per thousand of MARRIED population per year).
Here are the top 6
5.0 Russian Federation
3.4 Cayman Islands (BTW, batman -- reportedly, you must be a Cayman resident to divorce there)
So how to interpret them? In 2006 (a year for which I found data), just less than 37% of US residents were married -- so out of that 1000 population, lets say there are 368 married adults. If there are 3.4 divorces, then on average 6.8 out of those 368 adults ended their marriage in divorce, or almost 1.9% of married people.
Taking this number and running with it, if you chose a group of married US residents at random, after 10 years you would expect that about 1 in 6 would be divorced. [Note: this kind of calculation can be VERY misleading, but it can give a rough idea.] Getting even rougher, let's say that the average married adult in the US has 30 years left of their life expectancy (in other words, half would die within 30 years); the numbers suggest about 43% would have divorced by then (after 30 years), supporting the idea that roughly half of marriages in the US end in divorce. Remember there are lies, damn lies, and statistics, so please take my math with much caution!
If the percentage of married in Russia is similar (a big "if", I don't have data), then at the end of 10 years their crude divorce rate of 5 per 1000 of population would leave about 24% of married people divorced (compared to 17% estimated for the US). Important note: because life expectancy is a LOT shorter in Russia and Ukraine than in most of the west, the percentage of married people "taken out of the pool" by death is higher -- so these crude divorce rates translate into an EVEN WORSE proportion of marriages ending in divorce, than the numbers seem to imply. Dismal.
For comparison, many countries in the UN table have less than 2.5 divorces per 1000 of population, including (picked at random): Mexico (less than 1!), China, Japan, Bulgaria, Germany, Netherland, Norway, Poland, Romania, Spain, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand.
Because very many countries are missing from the table, these rankings must be considered very incomplete.
Durak....any measurements you are talking about are very, very crude.
For one, it doesn't take into account number of married people...only # of divorces per/1000 people. Those with many marriages would more likely have a higher divorce rate and the inverse, those countries with smaller amount of marriages would likely have a lower # of divorces.
All I know is ......the divorce rate in America for first marriage, vs second or third marriage
50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce, according to Jennifer Baker of the Forest Institute of Professional Psychology in Springfield, Missouri.
How would you like to marry someone going on their 3rd marriage??????
Actually, this is another survey.....
The divorce rate in America for first marriage is 41%
The divorce rate in America for second marriage is 60%
The divorce rate in America for third marriage is 73%
Agreed. The reason these 'crude' (proportion of total population) are used, is that they are easier to measure accurately. When you get into more refined statistics, such as the percentage of marriages that eventually end in divorce, the picture is much more complicated. It has long been quoted that 50% of US marriages end in divorce, but this figure is quite controversial. You offered a good example with the big variances in first and second marriage divorce rates between the two sources.
There are cultural differences in:
* the likelihood that adults live without any partner
* the proportion of cohabiting adults who marry
* the percentage of population who are adult (closely tied to mortality and population growth)
For example, Russia's population growth (on average, there are statistical "bumps") is negative, so there is a higher percentage of adults. This factor alone would increase the crude divorce rate (other things being equal).
Even so, divorce.com has a table (no source given, God knows where they got their data) that apparently (the caption doesn't make sense) lists percentages of marriages ending in divorce, that has Russia, Belarus and Ukraine in the top five.
Ralph!! I was just being silly with that!! I think the numbers are bad for every country!!
In respect to Ukraine and Russia,, how could the numbers be any different than what they are??? In a place where honesty, loyalty, faithfulness, and sincerity have no meaning, how could they ever have commitment????
an annulment is not the same as a divorce, however it accomplishes the same thing. an annulment is based on special circumstances and usually is achievable in a short term since the marriage took place. but there are special circumstances where an annulment can be ruled. say for example joe dirt the traveling salesman has a wife and kids and has been married for ten years. while on a business trip he meets lucy longlegs and goes gaga over her. he frequently visits and over the course of time joe dirt convinces lucy longlegs to marry him. joe dirt is living a dual life. lucy long legs finds out after a couple years she is number two. aside from all the other crap, lucy can get an annulment.
catholics CAN get divorced. the church does not overrule the legal system. however for the divorced party to ever remarry again - with the church's blessing or in the eyes of God - the must get an annulment. a religious annulment is different than a legal annulment. an annulment granted by the local archdiocese basically means the divorce is sanctioned by God and that divorced parties are pure as ever and they have never been married blah-blah-blah. and the catholic church - for the right amount of money - grants annulments. so in this sense, God can be bribed. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT BECAUSE I HAVE THE PAPERWORK IN MY LOCK BOX!!!
I stand corrected with Catholics and divorces. Catholics certainly make it hard to divorce or annul, which probably is a factor in Mexico's rate of divorce. Moving on and not bother with it also makes sense. But homicide?
sure muzzy is paying attention. he just feels no need to get involved in something as trivial as a comment about the catholic church. here's one... it's all over the local news again. two different things: the catholic church is closing a school because of a lawsuit settlement (guess what about) and will not be able to meet the expenses for another school year - they are suggesting other locations for students; there is another criminal investigation into a few priests who have molested children in philly (same place they are closing a school). it seems two faddas shared a ten year old boy, and that the big cheeses new about it, transferred them to another place to set up shop again... I think this one is going to dredge up a lot of dirt because they are starting to come out of the closet again. It seems every time a priest is accused there is someone else who comes out to back it up.
and all a good catholic has to do is go to confession and their sins are forgiven. so I suppose these two confessed to and absolved one another other of their sins. pretty convenient if you ask me.
here's another good one, there is now an 'app' for iphones for confession. you go into the booth with your eye phone and it walks you through the process, "Bless me fadda for I have sinned..." it even gives suggestions and prompts to what are sins!!! and the church is endorsing it!!! "We must keep up with modern times and technology..." I kid you not!
If you are a good catholic and attend confession regularly you should already know the drill. They are taught it as a right of passage for God's sake. No pun intended.
What we need is a 'Star Spangled Banner' app so these knuckleheads know the proper way to sing our national anthem.
rb- homicide was a joke. but there is an interesting number of people disappearing in mehico.