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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > WOmens contact numbers are supposed to be free here? Author Post giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2011 8:10:25 AM   I have been here about a month after spending a year on some other sites. I thought this place was great! I have been speaking with about 15 women and Im getting ready to make my 2ond trip to Ukraine. So I began asking them for their contact information. The same thing from all of them "You need to get it from my agency" So one of the agencies wrote me and offered to arrange everythign for my trip. Now I have to say I was just there 3 weeks ago. I KNOW what the prices are and have great contacts for wonderful apartments all over the ocuntry (If you need a recommendation on who to use, neworleansgreg@yahoo.com . ANy way I know that a car from BSP airport to Kharkov is $250 each way. I just paid it last month. I know a really nice apartment in the central square area is $90 per night. I told the lady I would be there for 7 days (6 nights). She got back to me and said "6 nights room, car service, a driver each day you are there and translators, WITH unlimited dates with the women of yoru cohoice will be $3000" Now jeez my math is $500 round trip to bsp / kharkov $90 X 6 for the room = $540. SO my math adds up to $1040. I know a driver for a whole day i $100 so add $600 more thats $1640. and interpreters are $10 per hour, so well round it off to say $200 more. SO they were only going to charge me $1200 for two womens addresses! What a great deal!. Now on this site is says I can have their numbers for free. WHich is reality? Greg Batman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2011 10:34:37 AM   Greg/Giss, I'm unclear what agency you're using. Is it this one? Armin(Bonddd) Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2011 12:27:46 PM   that's funny, I can sell some numbers for the half price, is there anybody to purchase?))))))))))))) giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2011 12:32:10 PM   Yes I was using this one but the women belong to another agency that this one deals with RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2011 1:34:15 PM   You can just fly to Kharkov for less in less than an hour. The cost of the room is still high at $90. If you are not in direct communication before you travel, you are probably wasting your time as well as your money. Travel without verified communication via Skype video call or even through her agency is a mistake. I do not recommend pointless "Video Chat", however before you purchase a flight, verify she is not a "Phantom". Juffles Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2011 2:28:18 PM   The reality is that if a woman has a good feeling about you and your profile, and trusts you, then she will give you her email address, and then eventually her telephone number. My profile here has been active only a few months and I am corresponding with two from this site, and both VOLUNTEERED their e-mail address in their first letters, and one also gave her tel. number shortly after. We often text and call. I doubt this would happen through an agency. As an experiment, I tried contacting three others here - via an agency. One closed her profile, but first sent a warm-hearted response just saying "I'm not interested already." Sweet girl! One wrote a silly single sentence about absolutely nothing; and the other didn't respond at all, probably because I said I preferred direct e-mail contact. This particular girl had continually sent requests to me to chat (paid for) on another site. For the last two months she could have chatted with me to her heart's content; through private email.... But why are you taking a taxi from Kyiv to Kharkov? Do you take taxis for such distances in your own country? Buses are dirt-cheap, then you could get a taxi from Kharkov centre to your apartment. $90 per night seems high to me. But perhaps your budget is not important? Why are you choosing women represented by agencies? On this site you can choose to communicate with an independent woman who has her own private e-mail (no agency involvement). You will know for sure if she wants you to visit! And why are you even getting into a conversation with any agency about your travel and accommodation arrangements? I wish you luck. But if you are travelling from afar, going to much expense, and taking time off work to visit agency-girls, then I suggest you seriously re-asses your situation. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/9/2011 8:10:46 PM   What a website says;,,,, and what you will find in each city will never be the same!! The local agencies always want to arrange your every move,,, then you are 100% dependent on them!! Don't allow that!! Always have a phone number of a taxi service with you,, and a phone that works of course. I went to Sumy this winter, and that agency wanted me to use all of their services!! I said; No way!! If that is the only way I can meet her, I'm not going!!! The woman who runs the agency in Sumy is a real xxtch!! She argued with me over emails, about how she is going to save me money, and how nice their apartment are, and how internet cafés are just down the road,,,,,,,,, Nope! I stayed at the nicest hotel in Sumy,,,, I saved money!! I needed to exchange money at the airport KBP and buy minutes for my phone from Odessa, the name of the phone company starts with a L and ends with a E;) Their driver spoke very little English, but he does know how to say; Don't worry,,, get in!!! Realizing that I'm not happy, he calls Natalia from the agency;,,,, I tell her I need to exchange money, and to buy minutes for my phone!! Don't worry about it,,,, Sumy has banks, and we will give you a phone!! I get in the taxi!? With only about 1,000 grevnares from last year, I need to use my card for everything until I can find a bank. No problem,, right? The hotel has an ATM by their front door!! I punch in 2,000 and wait a moment,,,,, Request denied!!!! I try again,,,, same thing??!! Fxxx!!!! A bank is across the road from the hotel,,,, lucky for me,,,,?????? I walk in and a minute later I find the Teller, or window,,, I say; I need to exchange money please?? No!!!! And the teller closes the window???? WTF!!! Well, here I am with almost no money,,, wondering if my card is bad,,,,, the hotel used it,,,, and it worked???!! I look for a second ATM,,,,, Ah!!! The first ATM worked two days later!! I think “it” was out of money!!! Meanwhile,,,, I have no phone,,, my computer won’t connect with their internet,,,, so I have no phone service,, local or international!! The hotel doesn’t have international phone service!??? Natalia from the agency wants me to use their phones,,, saying; my phone company is too expensive,,, for only 35USD I can use their phones! I say; No, I want to use my phone!! I didn’t want then knowing every call I made!! I finally found a place selling minutes for my phone,, still only 1grevnare per minute. How much did it cost me?? Just 12USD!!! And I have a 50 minute card for next time??? Going through an agency is your 100% guarantee of being ripped off!!! Do you think I’m getting a little warm under the collar???? It’s only just begun!!!!!!!! Oh!!! I had to pay 200USD for the meeting!!! And 150USD to travel from Kiev to Sumy!! How much to return to Kiev?? That's the subject for another story!! Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/10/2011 1:14:35 PM   You're being prepared for a good reaming. Try make it easier on yourself...when you arrive, just drop your trousers and bend over. UKR-TourManager Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2011 7:50:59 PM   Giss- One can get a bus/coach to Kharkov for about $15USD. It's either Ukr-Bus or Avto-lux. And apartment in centre will be only $65 to $70USD. Train to Kharkov is about $20usd to $40 usd depending on cabin type/quality. fly one way to Kharkiv would be $65 to $100 depending on season and advance notice and depending on who books it, i.e a ukraine person or a tourist. giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/30/2011 4:51:19 PM   I dont know guys I had a great time there except getting sick. I met several great women from natasha club there and while they werent who I was looking for they were all very nice. I know people say they are a scam, but it worked for me. Ive had great luck on this site too ad will be leaving for Kharkov/ sumy in 3 weeks and my main trouble is figuring out hot to squeeze in all the women I am speaking with. I did stumble on a no BS way to tell which women are scammers. IT is very simple and it works like a charm. When they are saying "I cant wait to meet you..." send them a letter with your hotel or apartment address and phone number with the days you will be there. Most of them will say "I will only make contact though my agency" others will say "Ive written it down and I will meet you there." lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/25/2011 3:14:10 AM   Hello Giss!! This is the thread where you and I first interacted!! You spoke about your great deals,,,, and everyone showed you how, you spent too much!! I even tried to help the beginner,,,, you giss!!! I spoke about the hardships I had in that city,,, and anyone who reads it, will have an idea of what to expect!!! That's what this forum is for!!! Just incase you forgot??? giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2011 2:30:43 PM   Bone ranger it is a shame you can't read and you depend on your moms understanding for your info. This post was about how they tried to ream me on prices. I did ttake their package, although the thought of taking anyone's package excites you. It is a post about how to spend less than signing on with an agency to do everything for you. So get back to your reading practice "See spot run, run Spot run". That's a good start for you lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2011 4:14:22 PM   You did pay too much! And it was the other members who showed you, that you paid too much!! I did use the agency for transportation,,, because it cost 50USD less! But I stayed at the hotel, and saved 10 to 15 per night! I saved,,,,,,, about 20USD on the cell phone, and I have a 50 minute card for next time!!! Oh,,, packages are your department!! So,,,,, just what are you snibbling about??????!!!!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2011 9:32:02 PM   Giss,,, you have my PITY!!! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > WOmens contact numbers are supposed to be free here?
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