I agree. We, the men, may be thinking with the wrong head. I have recently allowed myself to fall "victim" (?) term used loosely!
Her name is Ksenia, _PINK_, NIght_Kiss; depends which of there dozens of sites you are on. Now, does the
fact she searches many sites make here a scammer - no of course not. Men do as well!
But, she does "lead you on": but that happens even here in my lovely city as well. So, we have to stop all the stupid men.
Here's what I did.
Straight up truth: After spending 2 years and $20K plus on line/gifts (never cash)! yep - you read it right! $20K, I FINALLY decided, to just go for a vacation.
Just returned. Spent 3 weeks (and a lot less money). Visited all the cities where I had met women - did not meet them. I did meet many others one to one. it was a good experience...and YES, I met many girls who had used agencies in the past...and yes, some - not all of the girls admitted they make a little kick back..BUT, most comes in the form of gifts fro STUPID men like me.
The actual online websites are like roadways. The local agencies are like the cars who use the roadway. The websites are structure legally i such a way, that they are actually delivering the services they say...that is...allowing us to access women overseas, THROUGH local agencies. It is each local agency that establishes their own policy on payments to girls etc..
But, I digress, stupid men will always keep the industry alive...these women in Ukraine are not dumb, uneducated farm girls looking to be saved. They are beautiful, smart, and understand a mans weakness, as does any women in the UK, USA, Canada, Italia.....
Maybe use a website for contact, or to sort out what you want, (or think you want), and then go there...plain and simple...make your first trip a vacation...an eye opener if you will.
I did, and now, most of my money stays in my pocket...I will venture a chat or two but if I want to truly meet someone...I will go again.
So after all said and done...here is my advice, for what it is worth!
If you are serious, book a vacation to Ukraine..THEN, a bout 2-3 months out, start chatting with a couple, but don't tell any of the girl you are traveling to Ukraine yet.
A month out, decide on a couple of meeting, then tell them you can arrange to come "in a month" - she will be impressed with your eagerness - put the others in your pocket as back-up.
But always, make it about YOU having a great vacation...it was a wonderful experience, I saw a lot of a very beautiful, tormented, tired yet hopeful country. Lots to see....very lovely trip.
Once you have admitted to yourself, that you're stupid,,, the rest comes easy!! Welcome to the forum!!
I'm on several sites too, but I only use them to keep tabs on the girls, and check for inconsistencies like; married or not, children or not, date of birth, what city they live in, how much English they know!! You wouldn't believe how often that info can differ!!!
Can anyone one tell me about his vacation in Krivoy Rog. Specially, about the name of the agency and the girls you were looking to meet.
I am looking for information about Veronika agency, I think this information is true...
I met a girl in Kherson through the Veronika agency and AOB! The girl in that city wrote the nicest letters, very attentive to detail and always very positive,, you wouldn't suspect anything to be wrong!!
When I arrived, our Friday evening date was posponed until Sat morning. I had two- 2 hour dates with the girl,, all very business like,, no spark! She didn't know simple things about me, like my parents or siblings,, we wrote to each other for over a year??
Sunday night, the interpreter texted me, saying; that my girl didn't want to see me anymore! I was a nice man and did nothing wrong, but I just wasn't her "soulmate"!!
I started to pack immediately, and sent laundry out to be cleaned. The hotel didn't start the laundry until the next day, so I had time to kill. I texted the interpreter, and asked her to give me a tour of the city, just an hour or two. I didn't get a reply until evening,,,,, she had classes all day and didn't get my message??? I guess it was very convenient for her, that my two dates took place on the weekend??!!
This young interpreter is also on the dating sites,,, she lists; "beginner" as her level of English??
I truly believe, I was lured to Kherson, so the interpreter could make some quick cash over the weekend!!!
One more thing to note,,, they also used the "discount cards" !! The interpreter will give the man a discount card to use at restaurants and hotels to receive a discount!! It is only .5 or 1.% savings!! But what it really is for, is to give the agency a "cut" ,, how much, I don't know!
Well,,, lets see!! One, they don't allow sending phone numbers or mailing addresses, or email addresses! I didn't think to send smoke signals??
She doesn't speak English,,, so if I had her number,,, it wouldn't help.
She looked better in person!!! I would know her anywhere!
Yes, I did meet the people who wrote to me,,,, her and her interpreter!!
We're still smarter than you danny!!
sighn,,, is sign
evern,,, is even
And you should always write it as such;,, America,, it shows respect!!
Oh, sure danny,, complain about everything. I hate those shows too!!! But so what?? What has australia done for the world,, I can't name anything right now,, but I'm sure you will have an answer!!
I'll choose, who I damn well feel like choosing!!!
At least I'm not the one who threw his wife off of a balcony??!!
Danny, Do you still hate your big brother for defending you as a child too? Next time you have a thought, just keep it to yourself. If you argued a topic it would be one thing. Without the American presence in your "neighborhood", you'd be writing in Japanese or not at all. What you bitch about Americans is common to every country represented on this forum. That is generation after generation of Americans stood up and took up arms to defend every one of these countries in the last 200 years. Sometimes, their ancestors were looking down the barrel themselves. All that was asked of the French was a place to bury the dead of my father's generation. Because you and I do not speak officially for our respective countries, you could just shut the **** up for me, little boy.
Yes danny it is 2 generations later. Still America is policing the world and paying the bills. The mess you refer to is that many in power here have the same attitude as you and taken a path of socialism. If you believe that living under a fascist state like the Nazis or feudal state like the Imperial Japanese would have been better, you should take over handle "durak". You would have have been stood up to a wall just for your inability to spell. The world has prospered and been defended by the American Dream (The English Common Law combined with the freedom of the American Indian) and it just sticks in your craw. You are the Seven,,,, all in one package.
I don't think we want to police the world,,, but no other country has the package for it!!
You respect the USSR??? Very very interesting!! Is that where you might be living?? You'll need a new map!!
Moving to any other country is NOT an option for me,,, every thing for me is right here!! Yeah,,, except one thing!!