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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > How to for flailers step by step Author Post giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2011 11:16:12 AM   Wow a simple success pulled out the most negative people here. Hey maybe women aren't attracted to negativity or misogyny as much as you think they are! Real simple for those with a hard time doing this thing right. First write to women from small towns. Kiev girls are like NyC girls mostly. Try Donesk or ravine (sorry for the spelling). Then find the right age group. 5 - 15 years younger. Don't write the woman who has been here for 6 years with 4700 letters. Write the girl next door type that has a job and a sincere profile. No ivor a hot photo is not all there is in a profile. If you are 59 and she is 25 and loves you, and you believe it, you are stupid. So write about 15 of them till you are down to 7 or so. Pick a afa tour that goes to that city. I did it on my own the first times and it left something to be desired. Then go there. The biggest mistake you tire kickers make. In the first 5 minutes at the social grab an interpreter and give her $20 to stick with you a night at the social. (she's already being paid to be there). Grab an agency lady and spend 15 minutes telling her what you are looking for. She will take you by the hand and introduce you to the exact woman you are looking for 25 times in one night! How can you fail! And while you are at the table ask some of the other women for their phone numbers too. Discretion does not count at these meetings. Towards the end of the evening go back to the one you liked best and take her out after the social. There you go. All the women you could ever want for $200 membership, $1200 plane fare, $300 to attend one social, $600 for 2 weeks apartment, $1400 spending money. $3.4 k. And you won't be a failure either. Admittedly I screwed up the first two times but I have it down now and women anxious to be the one that goes with the car to lick me up in Kiev. They want to take a 5 hour ride to have 5 hours on the ride back. See for those of you that don't know, there is a "limited quantities" theory here. 2 hour max date time unless they plan on cooking you breakfast in the morning. Seriously if you are a good man with an open heart and have honorable intentions, these women smell it. If you are a misogynist, "know" everyone sucks, hate all people, or regularly soil your shorts, they will smell it. You can't get a date with $100 from a hooker. As I said I will be going back in September if someone speaks English. Likes women (you are out ivor). And is a genuine good person. I'll show you how to do it. I cant promise it will work as well for you as it does me, but you will have all the dates you ever wanted. Driftwood Arts Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2011 10:17:39 AM   what doo they smell iff i 'm a good guy and soil my shorts ? giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/11/2011 10:21:09 PM   Look, no BS I'm going back in the end of sept. From sept 22 to oct 4. If anyone wishes to see how it is done properly I'll split a very nice apt with you. I can promise if you do as I do you will have all the dates you wish for every day. Hell I'll set you up myself! I know nearly 50 women and I know the owners of 4 agencies. Oddly if you are cool they are too. I know the people running the afa socials in that's same time period. All that's left is to man up and go. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 12:14:30 AM   Giss,,,, what is your definition of success??? Is it when they smile at you?? Or if one touches you?? Maybe one of them has touched your “PP”???? I haven’t heard one successful story from you yet!!! Being a success, isn’t just meeting a bunch of women, who are only there for free drinks and a meal!!! It isn’t even getting married!! It’s getting married, and STAYING married for over 4 years!!!!!!!!!! But hey,,,, why am I telling you this?? You are the successful professional here,, surely you know all of this???!!! They say; if you tell yourself a lie long enough,, you’ll soon believe it to be true!!! You must have all of your propaganda playing on earphones 24/7!!!! I think the women can also smell a BSer, who will blow a lot of money on them!! I have no doubt they will pick the biggest fool!!!! giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 2:08:55 PM   Well let's see bone ranger I've been married once in my life for 19 years. I have 7 women that would marry me now in just one Ukraine city. I'm not rich, great looking, or hung like a horse. I'm positive, honest, sincere, have high morals, and women can see that. How is terminal negativity working for you? Ooh yea, lonely ranger. Never mind. My definition of success is either meeting positive high quality women. (the ones that run from you) or deciding on some women who I will eliminate from the possible fiance list. I'm trying to see fewer and fewer women till all but one is eliminated. I have decided next trip I will choose the one and giver her a ring. So 4 trips, dozens of new good friends, great memories, and the best woman possible for me. I would call that a success. I guess your definition is a few trips and with the power of negativity having a whole country of women avoiding you. To each his own. Hawaii-seeker Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 5:24:17 PM   Giss, What about the age of the guy? I'm al "older" guy with the right intentions, in good shape [no beer-belly], lead active life [still roller-blade, bicycle, hike, tennis, kayak, etc..], got all my hair and reasonably good-looking. I'm around 60 and looking for an age-appropriate, thin, educated, attractive gal. Too much to ask? Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 9:00:27 AM   lonelyranger: in the words of George Castanza, "If you believe it, it isn't a lie." I don't wish to get into the giss turning the world on fire debate. but you are right, they can smell a man who flashes money and will take every opportunity to get their share. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 11:17:51 AM   Giss: Nothing personal - but though we haven't met (I don't think so anyway) I see a lot of guys like you at the Romance Socials too. A couple of my very good friends used the technique that you describe. They ALWAYS seemed to have a girl on their arm and always a different girl. And they were all smile ear-to-ear the entire trip. When I talked to them they always seemed sincere. I don't know your background - but a lot of these guys had gotten beat up in divorces and then they sicovered that the American dating scene wasn't really looking for them. It was an amazing relief to them to go to Ukraine and to lose themselves in the sheer number of women. The night before we were to leave (they were leaving anyway - I typically stayed longer) we'd all meet in the bar and I would ask if they had found "the one" and most would recite off some of the qualities of this girl or that - but really not have anything pegged down. If thats what you want - nobody says you have to grab somebody right off. Hey I haven't. But wait - Maybe I did misunderstand. I'm curious - when you mention $300 to attend one Social - that IS only one. I mean three would set you back $850 or $900 (quantity discount I think). So in the weeks that follow - you work on narrowing that group of women you have down? That would be a different technigue than I have heard about so far. In two of the Romance Social events I attended - four years apart - all of a sudden it just hit m. I was crazy about this girl. It might nt have been LOVE at first sight but it was something akin to it. And after that - I remember especially in the second case I didn't need to meet anyone else. I guess to each his own anyway. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 5:45:22 PM   Hawaii-seeker, We've all got our own hair ... just some of us not so much of it. :) giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 6:33:12 PM   Jet you are right. I will go to only one social the town where I know over a dozen good women and a couple scammers. We were calling what you speak of being "caught in the loop" where there's another good woman, and another, and another. This time I'm going to reduce the number of women I speak with. I'm really only going to the social to see new friends running it, some agency owners I know, ok and maybe one last look before making my decision. The problem is that I know all these women from letters first. So I can't discount any right away. Ooh and the beauty of just one social is the first question you get asked by every woman. " when are you leaving?". Instead of the answer being tomorrow like everyone else, my answer is "10 days" bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 7:34:37 PM   ok this could be interesting jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 7:50:32 PM   Giss: I know moet of the people running the AFA Socials as well. There are two women who I will not identify by name here, but they are Ukrainian (I guess thats not a big surprise) and they run the actual office on a day to day basis when Romance Socials are not underway. I met them first in Kiev and Poltava in early 2010. And then again in Kharkov in late 2010. Super nice people and it was great to see them again. They actually recognized me before I recognized them - I guess thats bcuase I have such memorable stunning good looks.......yeah, that must have been it. Maybe it was the that they remember the horn I have protruding out of my forehead....nah, it must have been my stunning good looks. But likewise I always arrange my own flight and how long I will stay, so I can have a little more time. Of course all of this is rendered moot, when you happen to have an old girlfriend living with you in your hotel room. I spent $900 for the right to attend 3 Romance Socials. I danced with the women, went out later to bars with them, got a lot of great photos and telephone numbers - but never dated single one. As my time was already occupied. That did NOT work out well. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/13/2011 10:43:22 PM   Do the women get paid to go to socials? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2011 12:35:48 AM   Giss,,, it’s just as I thought, you don’t know the meaning of the word; Success!! You have confused luck with success, and it’s only a males’ definition of luck,,, ”getting lucky”!! The only success you have had, is finding someone who could live with you, and your ego for 19 years!!! I am truly amazed!!! You have also confused negativity with reality!!! In the International dating game,, only 1% of us are “SUCCESSFUL”!!!! And there is a 3% of us, who think they are successful,,, only to find themselves very unlucky a year or two later!! You aren’t even in that category yet!!!! I only know of two guys on the forum who are somewhat successful,,, one I know, and I think he will be alright, the second one I don’t know well enough to make a judgment! I was in that 3% myself,, so I know what I am talking about!!!!! Do you really think you are so much better than everyone else??!!! I think you are a fool!! You have set yourself up so high,,, the only way for you is down!! You started your posts by attacking and insulting everyone who didn’t agree with you!! People you don’t even know!! That’s why I’m on your case!!!! I hate BSers!! Why would you say; women are running away from me?? You don’t know me! If anyone is running away from me, and towards you, it’s because I am chasing them away!! I don’t like the; desperate, bar rags, scammers, bar flies, floozies, jezebels’ , or more commonly known as Social Rags,,,, who are only looking for a fool, to show them a good time by paying their bills!! You need to open your eyes, or one of your seven wonderful, faithful women,,,, who are waiting, Oh So patiently for your return, are going to lead you down a dark alley to meet their husband or boyfriend!!!! Do you believe all of the women you are writing to, are 100% honest??? Well buddy, I’ve got news for you;,,,, Women lie!!!! But you are so green and wet behind the ears to know or believe that!! I have only had one girl say; “No” to me,, it’s the girl from Kherson! She told me; that I was not her soul mate after two short dates!! I was upset,,, but I thanked her for being honest!! She could have let me “wine and dine” her all week, and led me through all of the shopping malls in Kherson??!! But she didn’t, and we still correspond a little! I have women here, and in Ukraine who want to date and perhaps marry me!! But I’m very choosy,,,, and cautious!! I want to start a family, and not marry one,,,, so most of the women around home here are eliminated!!! In the Ukraine, most eliminate themselves,,, by asking for money, or lying to me!! I doubt whether you have spent enough time with your; ” positive, high quality women”, to know much about them,,, the real them!!! On your next trip, you are going to choose one out of the seven, and give her a ring??? It’s good to know you are being so cautious, and that you are taking your time to make such a big decision!!!! How do you know if any of these women are still going to want you?? Are you going to be “test driving” all of them??? Are you going to give them nicknames, like; Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, etc.??? You are more likely to learn some Russian swear words, you have never heard before, than the word; Yes!! I hope you are not an American??!! Because its jerks like you, that give “Real Men” a bad reputation!!!! Oh,,, calling me names,,, real mature!! Is that all you got???? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2011 9:11:10 AM   Ragingbull: Women do NOT get paid to go to Romance Socials. They are intived to go as AFA contacts agencies in the area through which they hire interpreters and have the women invited. They don't NEED to be. They will gladly go where they perceive there to be a (maybe serious, maybe well-off) western guy. And believe me, women who live in an area and are listed with an agency, who DON'T get invited to the Socials (and who find out about it later) are pissed off. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2011 9:36:53 AM   Ding Ding ... Round 3 :) giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2011 10:50:20 AM   Hahaha bone ranger calls himself a real man. Let me stop laughing. Ok yea just because I was married 19 years whiny you made it 2. Haha yea I will listen to your advice. I mean you found a woman that went 2 whole tears before dumping your ass. There's a claim to fame. Actually I am going to pick one this time. I've already told them we aren't even imagining they will be coming here for over a year later. Yea so I'll know her well enough to be sure my marriage lasts longer than 2 years. Hahahaha. That's funny stuff..... giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2011 1:07:37 PM   Hahahaha holy crap. Bone hunter calls a couple hundred hyvrina "big money" hahahah that is funny. Look bone if you think spending 200 or 300 hyvrina on a dinner with a lovely woman is too much you should just stay at home. One of the things that attracts these woman is the hope for a better life. Promises of letting them push your 1984 vw to the next service station while you steer will not fill her mind with images she would like to see, even less than that of a mysogynist sociopath bus boy. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2011 6:03:38 PM   Giss,, You truly are a worthless nothing!!! You talk to me about money,,,, I'm not the one looking for someone to split an appartment!!! I haven't wrote about money on here,,, you must be really worried!! I have only had one job all my life,,,,, and I still have it!! I have never owned a VW!! Jp Gr Cke is what I own!!! It needs to be waxed,,, I'll pay you 20 USD if you do a good job??? Oh,,, and giss, no woman has ever dumped my ass,,, in fact, I went so far as to make sure she could never come back in!!!! You stupid little cry baby!!! Grow a pair!!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2011 1:54:19 AM   giss,,,,,,, are you off your meds????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > How to for flailers step by step
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