Ok I’ve wasted enough time here with bone hunter suggesting he stick things in bodily orifices and immature name calling. It really boils down to who you believe. Him, who thinks all women suck even though he has countless women waiting to marry him. HE is a negative miserable loser and he wishes to tell people how impossible their task is because he is a total failure and there is no real evidence he even owns a passport. When offered to meet with people in the Ukraine and help them he quickly changed the subject and hid.
On the other hand there is me who is positive and has had great success meeting and courting women in the Ukraine. Of course there is no proof I have been there any more than him, other than me posting again what dates I will return and offering to help anyone that is just starting out.
So you have a horribly negative misogynist who swears all women are thieves, yet amazingly he claims to have ladies lining up to marry him. Oddly he’s still "lonely" Kind of makes no sense to a thinking person, and he is unwilling to even pretend he will ever be in Ukraine. I mean usually people like him claim they will be there then something "comes up".
Then there is my who freely states he will be there Sept 22ond thru Oct 5th for my 4th trip, the 3rd one in 5 months, and offers to assist anyone.
It’s really what you make of it people. You can be negative and find reasons to hate women as bone ranger has or you can be positive and attract positive people to yourself. I’m sure that the bone ranger will respond to this post with something as eloquent as "You suck" but it will fall on deaf ears. There is no need to hate women or wallow in self pity and negativity., HE is blocked from now on.
In any case if you are wanting help in finding out how to meet your match in the Ukraine quite possibly by the end of the year, feel free to send me a pm and I will tell you where we can meet and what the plan is. Ill quite generously offer the rump ranger the opportunity to show up, since as he claims he is much better off than I am. But he won’t show. HEs a sad little troll who wishes everyone was as miserable as he is.
No giss,,, it's countless women who "say" they want to marry me!!! That's the part you just don't get!! You say; you have women,,, who say; they want to marry you,,,,, but they haven't yet,, have they???? Show the proof of your success,,,, AFTER it has atually happened!!!! Do MEN talk about the big buck they shot,,, while it's still standing in the woods??? I don't think so???!!!
You have great success meeting and courting women,,, maybe??? How much have you spent on them?? You have called me; cheap!! You should talk to danny for a while,,, he says I'm throwing too much money away!!! Which way is it!! It's easy to buy their attention you know,,, but after you are gone or your money runs out,,, many,, not all, will throw you away like a spent sanitary napkin!!!
I'm not asking anyone to join or follow me,,, I never have! I'm saying; don't believe everything this guy has to say!!! You are looking to inflate your ego,,, or to lined your pocket book,,, or both!! You are a fraud!!
Proof that I have been to the Ukraine?? The guys on here already know I have been there, 3 times in fact and twice to Russia! Several guys on here have already seen my photos!!! What do you got?? A spent condom wrapper?
Yeah,, I can't say exactly when I will be going next,,, I was planning on going to Truskavets in 3 weeks,,, but the girl I was planning to go with, wanted me to send the money for the trip two months ago,,, but I haven't heard from her since,,, so just maybe I won't be going after all!!! I am shooting for Nov,, but I planned for Nov each of the last three years,, so it will most likly be Jan!! I do work an 80 hour week!! You see giss,, I'm not full of myself like you are,, and I have nothing to prove to anyone! My Father asked me; if my first trip was a success when he picked me up at the airport??? I said to him;,, I don't know yet??!! Everyone here knows it wasn't!!! It's called REALITY
Misogynist??? Is that your word of the week??? I love women! I love their curves, their smell,,, usually! I love their company, the way they look at the world, the feel of their hair, legs,, etc.. I love it when they hang their panties and bras around the house,,, year around wife decorations!! I want to spend the rest of my life with the one who loves me!!And I'll do it, taking my good old sweet time. You won't find my dating action figures on sale in any store!!
I'm blocked from now on?? Why?? I have never sent you a PM,,, and you have not sent me one!! But hey,, if it makes you feel more secure,,, block me!!
I wish good luck and success to everyone!! Even to you giss,,, (I'm hoping you will stay there)!!!
I've told everyone on the forum, what I have done or tried, even if it didn't work!! The best way to learn, is from our mistakes,,, Hmmm,,,,, school starts in Sept!!!!!
A few things I missed in your letter!
I do have a passport, in fact I'm on my second! Both have been well stamped!
I haven't hid from anything,,, I most likely didn't read it!
I have helped people,, in 98, I fed one guy who didn't bring any cash to Moscow!!!??
I don't want to meet you,,,, and you REALLY don't want to meet me!!
Just who has been calling people names,,,, giss???
You have stated when you are going,,,, but not where!!???
When has this become a contest???? Would you feel better if I voted for you too!!!
Why do you need a crowd around you,, are you afraid of being alone???
MY trip in 2009, I had 10 or 11 flights,, I bought my tickets within the Ukraine on the go!! I don't speak Russian very well!
It's after 3:00am here,,,,, I have wasted too much time too!!
I'm going to bed now,,,,, are you still crying???
Hahahaha I didn't ask you to meet me. Didn't your mom read that right? Yes, all these women are tossing themselves at you and you are the lonely ranger who just cuts women down every chance. Don't you see people laugh at you? Let's move on to other parts of your diiahreahtribe. Yes by me flying to Ukraine and helping out new comers will line my pockets? Care to expound on that stupidity? I said nothing about money other than to help people that believe your bs and get screwed. I've already posted a reAsonable budget for a 2 week trip including airfare as $3200. Ooh guess mom missed that one too. So dude with all these lovely women throwing themselves at you why are you still lonely? One of two things neither you are FoS or you prefer their brothers. Hahahaha second passport? Wow. I was on that one by age 15.
Oh wow you made a trip by yourself? How impressive! I did that in Egypt during desert storm for my vacation for 6 months. See lonely ranger nothing you post stands up to cursory analysis. Lots of women, but lonely. Don't know how to make things work, but you are positive what doesn't work. But you never tried it the way I said. Just to prove you don't know squAt I offer to help others for free and that is to "line my pockets"' see why people laugh and you will always be lonely
Alas I guess all good things come to an end, taking in to consideration local time differences my morning cornflakes won't seem the same if I can't chuckle whilst reading giss's overnight postimgs.
giss ... might I respectfully ask you to reconsider your decision to leave this forum, I understand that 'ranger' might pee you off but you might consider convincing him better if, when you utter, you try wearing a checked jacket, face paint, a red nose and some oversized shoes.
Thanks awfully old bean and look forward to you sticking around longer.
I've read your postings and it seems to me your definition of success is being a sex tourist. It really doesn't matter to me other than the fact that it ruins for the rest of us who are looking for a wife.
You see, the sex tourist is what I'd figure the typical FSU worries about, much like how western men worry about scammers. Each side has their worries: "Gee, he's taken me out several times. If I sleep with him tonight, will I ever see him again?" "Gee, I've taken her out several times, is she just stringing me along for more free meals from nice restaurant?"
I'm sure in any culture, there's women who are easy to get in bed. Why go all the way to the FSU when you can find that at the local dance club?
Ranger seems to me to be looking for someone to grow old with; he wants to look down in 30 or more years from now and see an old, wrinkled hand in his. Your condom wrapper (if you're smart enough to use one) has been in some land fill somewhere for the same 30 or more years.
Batman Im sorry, could you show me the part where I said I go over there to bang women? I think rangers mom read it wrong to you also. The fact Duran is incame here posted better advice than was here before as to what works, at least for me, and all I got was name calling from ranger and ivor. Oddly you failed to comment on that. I wonder why that would be? I have posted the inconsostancies from ranger i.e. Knowing dozens of great women wanting to marry him and in the next breath saying how he can't meet any quality woman. Oddly you dis t comment on that either. And I've never seen anyone other than myself offer to help others in Ukraine meet more women but to ranger that is "lining my pockets". When is the post on these people who attacked me first? Cast the first insults. Ooh yea, that's not what this was really about.
giss--- I think that a misogynist may be someone who seeks out women and uses them for their own pleasure - bragging about it - and uses them for whatever self-satisfaction he can obtain. Using women in such terms is a form of masturbation. A narcissistic kind of behavior. To brag that you have a harem and you are weeding them out - still with no real desire to settle down with one - is a such form of this behavior. And to chasten those who are in disagreement is another sign of someone who may have self-doubt about their motives or their real intentions. If one was secure in their situation, one would not lash out at his (or her) detractors. One would simply just smile to himself (herself) and be quiet about it knowing that he (her) is on the right track. Instead, one assumes a posture of contempt against those who question or doubt the validity of one's tactics, motives or experiences.
A misogynist can be defined as one one who has contempt for women. And to use women as a means for one's own ego boost can be said to be the same. Why not just smile to yourself and ignore those who doubt you if you are such an accomplished DATER? If dating is your game, congratulations. There are those who seek a woman to whom they wish to spend their remaining years with. And for those who have toughed it out waiting for the right one - in their minds and lifestyle - hooray for them.
When you have been a success then maybe you can offer advice. Until then, continue your two hour dating and meeting 'ladies' and getting numbers and spending you soft earned dollars. Because it sounds to me that you have lived an easy life and you do have more bucks to spend than the average joe. So go to Ukraine and buy one. Just make sure she comes with a money back guarantee.
Gis,
I don't know ranger's situation and I don't care, but I also spent years waiting for the right one, even though I knew a few already who would have married me anytime, if I had asked. So, the fact that he is still waiting for THE ONE, does not make him a failure, and the fact that you have a few ones curious about your story, does not make you a success.
danny - the lower falls are probably what you saw -- no not yet, but it is on my list of places to spend a good day. This is the Yellowstone River coming north out of Yellowstone lake eventually dumping into the Missouri River and then the Miss. It will take at least three or four visits to see a decent amount of Yellowstone. It is a vast and tremendously changing landscape. I recall a couple years ago I was fishing on the Gallatin River just below the entrance to Yellowstone when an eagle swooped down and picked a trout from the river thirty feet from me and circled over me with it in its talons - an insult since I wasn't catching any fish. One of the most memorable experiences of my life. I had a camera in my back pocket and couldn't get it ready in time to take a pic of this eagle flying directly over me no more than thirty feet above me. This time I will always have a camera ready for anything.
Giss,,, you were talking trash long before I started to comment on you!!
It was on the “Planning a visit to the Ukraine” thread!! Here’s the comment I first responded to,,, and my comment!!
Then,, only minutes after, you made another post on “Stay away from Loveme.com”,,,,, more trash!!!
I think everyone will agree,, giss's arguments just don’t stand up!!!!
06.06.2011 14:07:52 giss
European 1 I went own the first time and the problems I had was parading enough women through my plans. I would run short of dates or simply meet scammers. I got back yesterday from an afa tour. If you got stones enough to put yourself at a table of 6 25 year old beauties this is the way to go the first time. You will have all the details worked out. You will meet more women than you could possibly date and you will love it. I know you read horror stories about afa here, but those are from men lacking a package large enough to insert themselves at a table full of beauties. One trip with afa and you will have 3 to 6 cities with at least 6 women in each place you will think could be your other half. After your first time you will have a dozen or more women just waiting for you to return and visit them
Greg
07.06.2011 Lonelyranger1701
It sounds like someone here is really full of himself!!! Like my Father always says;,,, Big talker,,, little doer!!!
Send: 06.06.2011 14:18:47 giss
Look whiners do I have to take your crayons and paint the picture for you ? Writing letters on afa is a fools enterprise. What lame soul would write letters to a woman when he can go on tour and MEET them. Do they intimidate you? Have you fully developed a spine? Afa is not a letter club! If you want to write letters, do that here! If you want to meet hundreds of women in 10 days then write them on ICQ or direct e mail go with afa. See it really comes down to if you can afford to visit these women or not. If you can't then write them endless letters until they are bored. Don't worry if you don't know any women. Go with afa for one tour and you will fall in love with 15 women, each one a treasure! Then you can beat yourself up for not being able to choose which one is the right one for you. We had a man on our tour, all he did was whine. He had no package to approach women and afa even hooked him up with an aggressive translator who introduced him to dozens of women. The fact is you can't lose going with afa the first time unless you are always a loser.
maybe this will overtake the danny-rb feud.
giss -- why do you put down others for doing the exact same thing you do? I do like the 'bone ranger' moniker though. even though it doesn't fit you must crack yourself up every time you say it. I was waiting for 'rump ranger' or something else clever. you do seem to know a lot about that sort of thing. are you a turd burglar too?
Ralph why not ? He's a total poser and even when I call him on insulting first, he makes uP things I never said. Isn't it odd that you defend that? Perhaps it's your turds he has burgled. You seem to know a lot about that
Giss,,, you want to talk about lies??? Here are your first few lines from the top of this thread,,,, read it!!! It is all lies!!
"Ok I’ve wasted enough time here with bone hunter suggesting he stick things in bodily orifices and immature name calling. It really boils down to who you believe. Him, who thinks all women suck even though he has countless women waiting to marry him. HE is a negative miserable loser and he wishes to tell people how impossible their task is because he is a total failure and there is no real evidence he even owns a passport. When offered to meet with people in the Ukraine and help them he quickly changed the subject and hid. "
I don't need to make crap up,,,, you supply all of us with plenty!!!
I don't need to lie!! My argument against you is strong enough, I don't need to use pathetic tactics!!!
You have a trip coming up in two months,,,, why don't you just shut up and go alone???
Giss,,, in a letter I re-posted for you above,,, you wrote; What lame soul would write letters to a woman when he can go on a tour and MEET them?? What lame soul indeed??!!!
Just read one of your older posts!! I have kept this in my computer in a file named; "The best of giss!!"
Enjoy!!!!!!
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Jason you can do it on your own the first time but if you do have 3 to 4 solid women lined up in each city before you go. I mean lined up! 6 months of letters so you know they wont flake. I did my first trip this way (and didnt speak a word of russian) an had a kick ass time. Rent your apartments through http://www.bestkievapartment.com/ Say hi to the woman who is on their skype line. SHs a sweet heart and will do anything for you including emergency transfers! They are good photos of all apartments and you can use pay pal for deposits to insure you wont get ripped off (although these people are #1 if you take my word for it) They will get you low price transfers from BSP or to and from any city you wish. They ROCK!
Then after things are lined up dont let the women tell you where they will meet you! They will all suggest some very nice expensie place for dinner. Tell them you only have so many nights and you would like to save them for later with someone you have found and wish to get closer with, maybe them, but you dont know. SO meet for tea at lunch time. 80 hyvrnia for both! Get a perfume sampler from the duty free shop on the way out and wrap each of the 6 bottles ($60 total) in a good paper you brought from home. At tea give her a bottle of real French perfume and see how things go. Maybe she will be cooking you breakfast tomorrow, maybe you dont want her to, but who cares. $10 for perfume and 40 hyvrnia for her tea. If you like her then decide to spend more but dont toss sums of money at a woman you dont like already.
If you wish to date a #10 model type woman 20 years younger than you, you are going to spend money simple as that. If that doesnt matter to you, then go for it, but dont bitch about the money later.
My next trip was an afa tour and I have to say I paid $1000 more than it would have cost me to do the same thing on my own. Well now add agency fees for the 500 women you can meet and maybe not. THis trip will be a hybred. a tour of cities where I have several women already lined up. Talk about a back up plan! IF the women flake out or we dont get along I will need to console myself at one ofthe socials with 500 other women to choose from. OR if I dont see who I like at the socals, I can always call one of the others I know up after wards and say my obligation with the tour is over and would you like to meet somewhere!
Then combine that with the foolproof anti scam deal I run on women and you gotta do great! ALl you need to do is make your reservations , even with agency women here on thissite, and send them your hotel address, phone umber and dates you will be there. If they respond "Ill only meet through my agency" maybe they are scammers , maybe they arent. If they respond "Ive written that information down and I will be there the first night you are in town", my money is shes for real. ID say if you are worried do a hybred tour. Ill let you know when I get back from mine in a month.
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Wow people need prenups ? IT all depends on how much the state you live in supports theft. In california the state will want everything. Here in New Orleans the ONLY property that is common is property bought and money earned AFTER you are married. SO I have my homes and accounts and blah blah blah. The day I get married I start new accounts. I deposit all my income in them and when the marriage is over, she gets only half of the new accounts, not a thing I had when we met. ALimony is limited to 12 months and under extreme circumstances (like you beat her) it can be extended to 18 months. Speak to your represenatitves, get real laws passed.
Send: 09.04.2011 8:10:25
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I have been here about a month after spending a year on some other sites. I thought this place was great! I have been speaking with about 15 women and Im getting ready to make my 2ond trip to Ukraine. So I began asking them for their contact information. The same thing from all of them "You need to get it from my agency" So one of the agencies wrote me and offered to arrange everythign for my trip. Now I have to say I was just there 3 weeks ago. I KNOW what the prices are and have great contacts for wonderful apartments all over the ocuntry (If you need a recommendation on who to use, neworleansgreg@yahoo.com . ANy way I know that a car from BSP airport to Kharkov is $250 each way. I just paid it last month. I know a really nice apartment in the central square area is $90 per night. I told the lady I would be there for 7 days (6 nights). She got back to me and said "6 nights room, car service, a driver each day you are there and translators, WITH unlimited dates with the women of yoru cohoice will be $3000" Now jeez my math is $500 round trip to bsp / kharkov $90 X 6 for the room = $540. SO my math adds up to $1040. I know a driver for a whole day i $100 so add $600 more thats $1640. and interpreters are $10 per hour, so well round it off to say $200 more. SO they were only going to charge me $1200 for two womens addresses! What a great deal!. Now on this site is says I can have their numbers for free. WHich is reality?