Hello fellow members I would just like to Sincerely Thank all who posted on my thread with their advice. I really do appreciate you guys taking the time to read and reply to my thread which was titled: "Advise, End of Relationship, I am very lost".... Thank You. A few special thanks to Muzzy, Durak, Ralph29, Santiago, Minicooper, Armin, Ragingbull, Kiwinorth, Colin, thanks for the replies and advice it is really much appreciated.
Though I am still not over my relationship and am still sad,... I must accept it, though it is very hard. (my thread "Advise, End of Relationship, I am very lost" explains what happened (just as a reference for this current thread)....
I did say UPDATE because I do have one. After leaving Ukraine I spoke to her briefly once after a week just to see how everything was. Then did not speak with her for 3 weeks but when I did after these 3 weeks she told me something that surprised me and saddened me greatly. She told me that another man had proposed marriage to her and she accepted! (info I gathered: he is 23 yrs old and Ukrainian and from a wealthy family) (not to mention all the trips she is telling me she is planning with him)...! If you recall she left the USA in Sept. 2010 with OUR intentions being to marry. So between Sept. 2010 and April 2011 this all takes place. (April '11 being when I visit Ukraine and she ends it). So now in July 2011 she tells me she will marry this man in August '11.
I suppose my questions are:
1.) How does she leave in Sept '10 with both our intentions being to marry within 1 year, but get swept off her feet not long after she returns to Ukraine? The distance faded her interest?? but I thought she loved me??
2.) Doesn't this seem incredible? She has lost all feelings for me in one moment and now moved onto someone new? even if she likes this new man why could she not reject his initial attempts to date her before she got so involved with him? She just forgets about me and leaves me in the dust!!!!!!!!!
I really got devastated by this....if I had returned to Ukraine sooner like 3 months instead of waiting 7 months would it have kept the relationship going or does it not matter and would have prolonged it?
__Thank You all in advance. advice is much appreciated.
well for one the culture is quite a bit different. almost every one I have met would rather stay in Ukraine just think about it, in America women run off with another man all the time.
Just be relieved that he's the winner. Understand that she is marrying him and she was also "in love with you" during this same time. She is now gloating, as though she is the center of the universe. Her way of life cannot remain a secret in her husband eyes either. You may understand in time that you are very lucky today. When her youthful beauty fades and she does not mature, she will likely have a difficult life. Her husband's options will improve and her's will dwindle.
I know a Ukrainian woman who was married to a rich guy. His mother controlled the wealth which comprised mostly of real estate. He would need permission from her on how to spend the money and for almost everything else. It worked for a while, as he was able to buy a Mazda3 for his wife. The marriage did not last and he took the car back.
He might be better for her in her eyes or she might have chosen money over you. I believe you should wish her well, as hard as it may seem. Then, and only then can you go forward.
Q: How does she ... get swept off her feet not long after she returns to Ukraine?
A: She is immature, mercenary, or both. (Hint: "he is ... from a wealthy family")
Q: She has lost all feelings for me in one moment and now moved onto someone new?
A: She is immature, mercenary, or both.
Q: if I had returned to Ukraine sooner ... would it have kept the relationship going or does it not matter and would have prolonged it?
A: Brother, you have dodged a bullet. This young woman is immature, mercenary, or both. Thank your lucky stars that she trained her artillery elsewhere. Take a minute to think what it would feel like, if another year or two or three had elapsed before she found her next Romeo.
Maybe, those two will make a good marriage and live happily, who knows? Maybe, her grasping will be rewarded by a future in which her high-status husband takes one mistress after another -- or simply dumps her; the dating websites abound with very young women who are already divorced. As ragingbull said so well, wish her well and go forward.
The key concept to remember here, is that her conduct from this moment forward is actually NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. You've just paid in all sorts of ways for a really painful lesson. Quite properly, you want to understand what this means about women, the foreign culture, etc. But when we step on these land mines, we've got to learn about ourselves.
Do you want to make a solid marriage? What kind of character must a woman have, to make a suitable wife? What kind of character do you bring to the table? You can be very fortunate, by gaining some clarity about this while you are still so young.
Hi everyone!! When I saw all the replies to this sad story, my first thought was; everyone is giving him $hit!! I'm glad to be proven wrong!!
I think this a case of the forum working the way it should!!
I agree with the guys,, you are better off without her!! Walk away!! Not very easy to do,,,,,, I know!!
It hurts and we're often left with too many unanswered questions whenever a break-up hits us.
It may be that she's money grabbing, or immature etc....always a possibility. But also try and put it into perspective when looking at women. I've had girlfriends from my country and for no reason they've gone from being madly in love and asking you not to hurt them, to being as cold as ice and breaking up with you. Probably not because of another guy or something you've done.......but because their feelings have just changed!! All girls act differently but their certainly a different a species from us guys. I always remember my sister telling me that all women are crazy :)
I also strongly believe that we seem to be of the opinion that we can offer these girls the best from life. However, in my experience, most of these girls love their country, would happily marry a Ukrainian guy and the thought of uprooting to a foreign land, leaving friends and family behind is a massive step. Perahps she just met the right guy for her, he speaks Russian, lives in the same place and unfortunately for you......you lose your girl.
There's no gloating here and you have to remain positive but these types of relationships are littered with problems. However I firmly believe that when you meet the right girl and it's meant to be.........it'll all work out!
Just cut her out your life and move on. It sounds harsh but if you beg and promise her the world now.....you'll be mad with yourself once your over her for being so desperate. Tell her how you feel, and i'm sure she has your number if it all changes.
so Al Al, what are you thinking, as in your future.
forget those questions you asked, its really a go no-where place for any person who wants to stay sane.
really' you cannot get a better answer then Durak's.
have you thoughts of checking out ukraine or russia?
if you do, be sure you deal with only english speakers.
the smiles of some of these beautiful women really is something special.
something like a fine single malt yeah? ok rum, or maybe a particular cuban cigar, or just a hot shower after a bloody hard day.
actually i'm doing my best to stay away from them cigars.
putting those crap photos of them fine box's really works.
bloody graffiti
Broken hearts come from caring about someone. Those of us who cared about someone and then lost it know this. Then came Danny who doesn't care about anyone.
danny doesn't care about anything except looking stupid,,,, and he's all for it!!!
Didn't you once say;,,, that your ex partner (RIP) or I meant (RID) (D for dumpster) was trying to get a cat out of a tree when she fell???
It's a shame you are crapping on her memory like this!!!
He thinks all life forms belong in a dumpster
So danny,,, do you have a dumpster underneath your balcony????
Getting over a relationship depends upon the individual. The more you cared, the harder it is. It the is a walk in the park if you didn't care. If you never cared about someone, then you would not understand.
Al'2, consider yourself lucky. I don't recall your age and it shouldn't matter. SHE IS 23 FOR GOODNESS SAKE! That should answer most of the questions. She found a rich guy in her own country who probably has a ton more in common with her than anyone from another place. He may take her on for some years and dump her. Who knows and who cares? The important thing is that you got out free and clear with nothing more than a broken heart. Time heals all wounds of this nature. Just don't dwell on it. Take a step back and evaluate yourself.
Think of your targets and motives. Do you have enough fuel to make it to Venus or only enough to make it to the moon? Are you trying to 'out kick your coverage'? I can't know. But you can. You were swept off your feet by a hot young lass? Find a real woman! Just don't settle for anything less than you deserve.