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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Who is scamming who ? Author Post TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/14/2004 3:17:11 PM   Regarding scams for money, the best advice I can offer is if you cant afford to lose it, don't send it, unless you are certain (you have met her face to face and all was well) that your lady is genuine. But I think Glad will agree with me from what he has mentioned about our similar personal experiences, that even after you have married your girl and brought her home with you, it can all go horribly wrong !!! Although mine didn't scam me for money in any way, she did betray me very very badly, and it is just as painful when you lose someone you put your whole life and soul into being with, when you find out that their "love" for you was just a sham. Being scammed isn't just confined to the financial damage the scam can cause, there is emotional scamming too and the damage from that goes far far deeper !! You can always make some more money, its much harder to heal the hurt and the feeling of loss when you are emotionally scammed instead, or for that matter, in cases other than mine, for money and emotionally as well !! An interesting point I want to make here, and my main reason for starting this thread, is that we talk lots about being scammed, but rarely talk about what the honest girls who are genuinely looking for happiness feel when a man they have been writing to for weeks and slowly falling in love with, suddenly stops writing and she never hears from him again. It happens, more than you would imagine, and I know that it causes extreme hurt and the poor girl feels she has been lead up the garden path, with her heart beginning, for the first time in her young life, to trust and believe in a man. Something she was always afraid to do because she has seen her girl friends, maybe her mother and even herself get treated badly by the men in her city. She has begun to believe that all men are not the same, he could tell her she is special, he tells her that one day he would like to meet her and that they could have a future together, even tell her he loves her, only weeks later to vanish without any warning or trace. She has the right to feel that she has been scammed !! So in all this, be careful, be sensible, but also think about the truth, that girls get hurt too, its not just us men !!! If you are not serious about her then dont tell her that you are !!! gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2004 5:50:34 AM   So very true Tim.....read this post and found myself nodding at each point you made.Good advice here guys......take note! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2004 7:04:07 AM   Thank you Glad. Usual arrangement for the cash OK with you ? ;o) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2004 7:06:33 AM   Footnote !! Come to think of it, if you are not serious but you are looking at this site and writing to ladies then maybe you should consider your motives and not be here at all ? gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2004 7:18:28 AM   Unmarked small denomination notes will be adequate!!!!......:)) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2004 7:25:18 AM   No Euros or Dollars then ? ;o) Which reminds me, if anyone is planning a trip to the FSU in the next 6 months, now might be the time to buy your Dollars if you are in the EU or UK. Hopefully the rates will level out again later in the year and what you can buy now will give you a cheap holiday (comparatively) when you actually go :o) This time last year I was getting $1.52, its now $1.83 !! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2004 8:16:51 AM   Talk about exchange rates... Had a nasty case of trnasition hit me when I went to Ukraine in November las year. After getting 5.3 grieva per dollar and being treated like a king over there, had to spend one night in Vienna to catch an early morning flight back to the states. Euros were $1.63 - so suddenly I was slammed the other way. A simple meal in Vienna when translated to dollars, cost as much as for four of us to dine in style in Odessa. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/15/2004 8:20:44 AM   I recall 7 of us eating a restaurant in Tashkent once, the whole meal including wine and a bottle of Vodka between us came to $30 !! For the uninitiated thats about £17 !!! I left a $5 tip and the waitress tried to give it back because she considered it too much !!! Mindwire Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/16/2004 1:48:42 AM   Ok Tim, I'm following the part about the ladies feeling like they've followed a train down a dirt road, but I must be missing something on the first part. Did you actually get married, and it just didn't work out, or was there some deception involved on her part? Please advise, you lost me somewhere..... TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/16/2004 2:14:39 PM   I met and married, we came home here, 3 months later I paid for her to go back for a holiday (on her own so she could have as much time to spend with her family and friends as she wanted without having to consider me) At the end of the two weeks she emailed me to say she couldnt come bac, homesick, missing family, etc etc, after 3 months and 2 trips there to try to sort it out it transpires she had a boyfriend there who was 20 years old, she is 27 !! And had become pregnant by him 6 weeks after she didnt return here, she is still expecting his baby but he has since dumped her, so now she has noone, nothing, no job, no home (living with her Mum and Granny) and we were divorced in Oct. Thats it in a nutshell......... TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/16/2004 2:17:00 PM   Footnote, Though I cannot confirm this for fact, it appears that said boyfriend was on the scene since before I married her, dont know what the whole truth is, and as its past it doesnt really matter now. Dinand Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 8:25:45 AM   Hello TimH, Thanks for sharing your experience and opinion with others. My name is Dinand, editor from HowtoDateaRussianMate You have my sympathy. On one of my trips to Ukraine I sat next to a girl from Dnepropretovsk. She had stayed in Luxembourg and Germany. She told me she lived with different guys for months. At the airport in Kiev her Ukrainian boy friend met her. Regards, Dinand TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 1:23:47 PM   Ouch !! Doesnt give much hope to the new people coming here to look does it :o// olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 1:31:41 PM   I know some men bring new girl on fiance visa every year. trying and trying and enjoying... so men do the same things with girls from Russia. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 3:00:23 PM   Point taken, and agreed, there are scammers on both sides of the fence, which was my reason for beginning this tread in the first place. As I have said before, not all scams are done by the ladies, many men are just as ruthless and inconsiderate of the feelings of others. Tim jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 4:21:55 PM   Does anyone know - suppose you bring a woman to the US on a fiance visa and things don't work out. As the end of the 90 days come - she takes off and vanishes rather than go back. What responsibility do you as her sponsor have? What do you do and what is the process? TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 5:16:08 PM   Ask imigration mate to be certain, but as you basically take responsibility for her I would guess, and its only from what I know about the UK rules that you will have some very awkward questions to answer !! Tim jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 6:12:30 PM   So you might have to keep her on a leash? Carry her to the plane and see that she stays on it? (of course I jest.) But what liability do I have? Criminal or civil or what? TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 7:43:28 PM   Hmmmm, many a true word said in jest Jet !!! As I said mate, I don't know US law, but before you bring a lady over, I would suggest that first you go to the FSU and meet her, otherwise you may never actually meet her if you get my drift !! Certainly do not even consider bringing any woman over sight unseen !!! Then before you bring her find out the facts and your liability if she does fly the coop. I'm thinking the info you need must be out there on the web somewhere ? If not talk to your local lawyer, and ask him to look into it if he doesn't know. Failing that Immigration is your next best port of call. I'm UK so as I say I'm not sure about US rulings, but here its civil, as you haven't actually broken the law, she has. You only sponsored her you didn't bring her in in the boot of your car !!! The sponsor thing here isn't about skiping at the end of the stay, its about supporting her financially until her stay ends or you marry her, if she skips you couldn't have forseen that !!! Just as in when someone on bail skips, they take the money from the person who put up the bond, but they don't jail the person who put up bail because the crim` legged it !!! I would think, and I'm not absolutely certain so check !! Going on common sense that you would probably be grilled about what you know about her, and asked lots and lots of questions, but the worst I would have thought they might do is levy a fine of some sort, but likely not even that. Come the USA, can anyone set all this straight with a few facts, rather than my common sense view, for Jet ??? And if no-one out there will admit to being in the US, then your a bunch of liars ;o))) Tim TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/18/2004 7:46:31 PM   Come ON the USA, That should have said !!! I hate these little typing boxes, and I have mentioned this before, but I think Olga doesnt see me :o((( Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Who is scamming who ?
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