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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Why are FSU ladies looking for Westerners? Author Post Mick99 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/21/2011 5:36:06 AM   This question bothered me quite a bit and I was asking my lady to what the problems are with Slawic men. It was interesting to hear since she had given up on them completely. There seem to be a couple of issues: What I noticed in my travels there is that slawic blokes seem to be very attentive, they care about their women, most of them are much better in shape than their Western equivalent and this of course beckons the question why so many seem to want someone from the West. A few issues emerged though which makes eastern women look towards the West for a future spouse and it is not necessarily only the "lifestyle" issue! 1. There seems to be a demographic problem that there are proportionally more women than men in the Ukraine. I am not sure what the exact figures are but it is noticable. It seems that due to alcoholism and bad lifestyle the mortality rate amongst younger males in the east is somewhat higher. Also many of them try to emigrate to the West in search of their fortune whereas women tend to stay with their extended family. There is also huge problem with drug addiction in the Ukraine and most drug users tend to be male. 2. I have come across that women were talking about the men in their lives that they know their value and the are ready to move on to the next woman quite easily or have a woman on the side. Whilst I was over there the issue of a not so faithful a spouse came up quite often. The expectation is that husbands from the West are more faithul and dedicated to their family. I am not sure whether this is actually true but that is the perception. 3. Alcoholism is huge problem over there. A lot of people especially men have got issues with alcohol abuse. It is quite regular that friends I know over there end up in hospital after they had some crisis and overdid it a bit too much on the vodka. Now I don't drink at all and my lady seems to think that this is one of the best qualities I have based on what she has been through with her friends who can't control their intake. There are a lot of other reasons which I am sure off but this seems to be something I have heard quite often. And of course there is the lure of a better lifestyle and more money in the West but it is by far not the only reason. In other words if you are not given to drink, you are intending to be a "one woman only" man and you are available and you are in a position to look after your future family, you stand in with a good chance in the east and you will be valued for it. Looks though not totally unimportant but they don't seem to be valued as high as possibly in the West. Hope the post helps! M eric Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/22/2011 6:40:59 AM   i was over there in 2002,2003,2004 for maybe like 3 months each of those years. in america we have drunks too, like in district of columbia. are economy was a lot better then. a lot of girls would watch DALLAS reruns and Pretty Woman. america and probably the UK, canada, is a 2,500 mile wide shopping mall. a lot of girls would tell me they were single but i would discover a man living with them when i would stay a week or two after i said i would leave their city. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/23/2011 10:28:02 AM   The CIA Worldfact figures shows that there is a big difference in the women to men ratio in Ukraine. Its figures are for ages 0-14, 15-64 and 65+. Like Mick99, I made the unscientific determination (by observation) that there is a lot more women in Ukraine. There is a poster here, who is not around at the moment, who agrees with that, but also says the men actually actually outnumbers the women before the age of 30. It makes some sense because the males outnumber the females before the age of 15. There is just a small difference in the early to mid thirties, he says. He even posted his statistics from another source. His point was not to be overly confident as the women have other avenues. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/up.ht ml giss Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2011 3:48:29 AM   I also met a married woman in Ukraine arguing with her friend if she had a good husband or not. She said she did, then the other one said " you go to work, shopping, make dinner, and clean the house while he sits at home drinking, and all you do is ask he doesn't embarrass you with his affairs". Yea sounds like a gem to me Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2011 8:49:52 AM   FSU women are NOT looking for westerners. They are looking for any man who can and will take care of them and treat them like a real person. And they are more than willing to share the load. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/25/2011 6:37:30 AM   1. 2. 3. --------------- Marriage agency industry hype by and large. Tell the girls you meet that you intend to live with them in their own city in a big run-down apartment block and get a local job earning $200 a month to support them and see how far you get. Read this (written by a russia) http://www.unclepasha.com/russian_brides_olesya/advice.htm 'Russia is a "divorce culture". That is, there is a whole population of women who consider marriage and subsequent divorce as an instrument for "getting ahead in life' This doesn't mean they are all hard core gold diggers but make no mistake the vast majority are looking for a lifestyle upgrade in addition to all of the usual stuff people look for in a relationship. Of course the "upgrade" will take many forms, for some it will be a life of luxury sipping coffee at trendy bars and cruising designer clothes shops, for others it might just be having a car or decent job prospects for their offspring. Your main challenge is sifting the latter from the former. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/26/2011 11:34:58 PM   Why are FSU ladies looking for Westerners???? Simple!! To get to the other side!!! Huh Huh,,, am I wrong??? Mick99 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/27/2011 8:17:46 AM   Raging Bull - you are right in saying that the observation was unscientific - and that is all it is just an observation. Giss - I totally agree, I found the same issue many times that many slavic men tend to not have the "get up and go" attitude necessary to make a difference in life. Women tend to run the families and work their buts off to make ends meet. Obviously this doesn't apply to all blokes but it is something I have come across there quite a few times. Lonelyranger - yes you are wrong. Many may be looking for a better lifestyle in the West but my lady is trying her best to make me move over to the Ukraine. She hasn't got the slightest interest to move to Western Europe and leave her extended family behind. I think if you want to know how serious your lady is it the suggestion of telling her that you will move to the Ukraine and get a poorly paid job to support her and your family would actually be a good test. If she agrees it may be real love - and if she doesn't you have been saved from a golddigger. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/27/2011 10:26:49 AM   Don't any of you guys have a sense of humour??? Why did the chicken cross the road?? To get to the other side??? You guys are hope less. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/27/2011 10:48:13 AM   danny,,, it's "you're' stupid!! You are welcome! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/27/2011 11:06:46 AM   Mick,, you say; I am wrong,,, and then you say; "Many may be looking for a better lifestyle in the west" Well,,,, which is it? Of course it's every girl,,, but many do just want a better life. I was married to a Russian woman, so I do know a little about this!! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/27/2011 1:22:53 PM   I thought it was funny. Danny took it seriously. A joke to Danny is his woman's breast size. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/27/2011 1:38:44 PM   I'm starting to think someone is fxxxing with my posts??!! I wrote; Of course it's "not" every girl,,, There is good and bad all over the world,, some places have more, some have less! Mick99 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/28/2011 5:30:55 AM   LR - wrong in my case since my lady wants me to move and stay in the Ukraine and she is trying her best to encourage me to come over. She would love to see the West but has zero interest in moving there. Her family and friends are more important. I have come across a couple of guys mainly older guys enjoying early retirement who have done the same thing and moved east, mostly it seems to work. Then again I am aware that many girls do look towards a wealthier lifestyle in the West! Ergo - wrong in my case, right in many other cases - I am sure! Does this make sense? How long were you married? Is it a never again or why not try once more scenario for you? Just interested! SOOTY Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/28/2011 6:56:48 AM   ukraine girls look for western men because they dont like muslim men in cities such as kharkov and odessa. avoid odessa during august too, it gets swamped with muslims from turkey. nuff said lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/28/2011 1:52:38 PM   Mick,, This all started when I told a joke,,, and nobody got it! I was only partly correct like you said. We were married for 2.5 years, but she was only here for 1.5! Her Mother died in the summer, then her Father died in the fall!! She blamed herself because she left them. When she first arrived, everything was so wonderful to her, the stores, the streets, the scenery, etc. But after 6 months, I had the feeling like she was still expecting more. In the time she was here, we went on one summer vacation to the north along the Great Lakes, one to Daytona Beach, and she went home once, on a trip not related to anyones' death! I am still searching, but there have been a lot of changes in the Int'l dating,,, none that are any good. The computer age has spoiled it! Mick99 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/29/2011 6:23:54 PM   I am sorry to hear that it didn't work out. How many times did you go to Russia before you got married. I guess us Europeans are better off since it is just a few hours in the plane at reasonable cost to get to Eastern Europe. I have done many weekend trips leaving on a Friday and returning on a Monday to make sure I can spent as much time as possible with my lady. So far everything is fine but I am acutely aware that not everything that is shiny is made of gold. Anyway LR good luck and I hope you can find a good woman that will stick with you! Armin(Bonddd) Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2011 9:28:32 AM   <1. There seems to be a demographic problem that there are proportionally more women than men in the Ukraine> That's true, there are. But this proportion disturbs the women in their mid 30s and older. Women up to 30y.o. usually don't have problems with finding a couple unless they are divorced and have children. However it's mot the big deal if she is young and attractive. And most of the western guys are looking for the girls less then 35 and they are very popular in Ukraine for local men too. <2. I have come across that women were talking about the men in their lives that they know their value and the are ready to move on to the next woman quite easily or have a woman on the side. Whilst I was over there the issue of a not so faithful a spouse came up quite often. The expectation is that husbands from the West are more faithul and dedicated to their family. I am not sure whether this is actually true but that is the perception.> I am absolutely sure these words can be addressed to a certain amount of men in any country of Europe or America. And believe me or not, but local women MOSTLY think not very nice things about American men, the general stereotype is that American men are fat, dull, boring, stupid, ignorant and rude (sorry, that's not my opinion). They are a bit more enthusiastic about Europeans. Who told you that women here adore western men? Don't believe them. <3. Alcoholism is huge problem over there> Alcoholism is huge problem every where. Well there was a time when it was a total problem in Russia (not in Ukraine). People in Ukraine aren't as addictive as you may think. Nowadays they are more and more concerned about healthy life style (especially the youth). So all these reasons are just bullshit. Women in Ukraine MOSTLY don't want or better to say aren't concerned of having a western husband. Most of them would better find someone local and live in Ukraine. Everything else is a stereotype imposed by the agencies. I can't say that we don't have women fancy to marry a western guy. But hey, that's a big competition, because there are 5 of you for 1 REAL woman and this woman is usually in her mid 30s and not so attractive as those you watch every dat on the agencies websites. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2011 11:44:12 AM   Mr. Bonnd, the following are the top countries in alcohol consumption rates according to the World Health Organization. FSU countries top them all. This list was apparently updated since we talked about it a few months ago in the forum. I remember looking up the US and it was in the 20's or 30's. It is now #58. Perhaps the trend is they are more concerned with healthy lifestyles, but it hasn't hit the statistics yet. 1. Moldova 2. Uganda 3 Czech Republic 4. Hungary 5. Russia 6. Ukraine 7. Estonia 8. Andorra 9. Romania 10.Slovenia 11.Belarus Pitter Pen Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2011 12:30:44 PM   WHen you think about "FSU women" what % of all FSU women you are talking about? And another question to think - why american men are looking for not american wives? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Why are FSU ladies looking for Westerners?
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