Hi I've been reading these forums for some time. I am corresponding with a woman in Ukraine and I'm thinking about going over to meet her. I have a question. There seems to be two schools of thought here. One says these women are all cons and it is useless to try. The other sats to keep your wits about you and meeting a quality woman is very possible. Which is it? Some people like Lonley ranger give the impression failure is a sure thing while others like Giss seem to say success is very possible. Am I just going to waste my time and money going over there? Or is hiss right that I can meet a great woman?
Thanks
Paul
Hi Paul and welcome to the flailerhood. The fact is it is easy to meet honest women in Ukraine. Can you get scammed? Absolutely. Can you meet a great woman? Absolutely. You didn't state your age but one way to get scammed is to look for age inappropriate women. Stay 15 years or less younger than you are. Read profiles carefully and exchange letters with several from the same town and it's very possible you will find a great woman.
Hi Paul! I'm really wondering just who you are,,, as we have so many bogus members!!!
No one can say; they are all scammers, since no one has dated all of them!!!
Also,,, some people on here can't say; that it is so easy or very possible, since they have had zero success!!! And it's not giss who has been saying; "to keep your wits about you" he believes any woman that smiles at him, is a quality woman!!
I have been the one who has been saying; Keep your eyes open,,, don't believe everything they say,,,, women can lie too!!!!
Giss hasn't had any success,,, and someone on another thread just ripped him a new one!! Go look on;,,,,
Dictators, Ego Trippers, Mentally Deranged, or just Simply Pathetic????!!!!
I knew he was a fraud, no class and no money!! That story by "Guest" seems to prove it?? However,,, I don't know who wrote that either,,,, so?????
All I can say is;,,, just use your instincts!! Do you think she is for real?? Is she too good to be true??
Oh,, just who said; it is useless to try???????? I'm going back this fall too!!!!!
on second thought -- giss, you are nothing more than a guy who's ego is ballooned. and your ability to 'try' to take advantage of women (buy their affection) has skewed your sense of reality. why not just go to new york and find some hookers. after all, that is all you are after.
its more about been very careful when using agencys, then secondly the girls involved with these so called honest places.
also the girl or guy who goes at it alone to grab your internet time and bucks.
its far from impossible finding cool girls, its the way people go about doing it is usually their down fall or a good earn for someone.
once you work out the conning side then its just about the normal girl boy thing and time spent.
these's some really amazing people there who want things like you but as with anything there are others capitalizing on yours and their existence.
if its costing you to communicate with this girl, i wouldn't bother visiting, my own opinion.
if shes little help with your visiting needs, i wouldn't hold to much to a great meaningful relationship.
my experiences there is most good people will do their up-most for you, if they think you are sincere,, works both ways yeah.
double OUCH!
Ralph you rocket scientist! How did you ever figure out my name was greg?????!!!!!!! You must be a genius!!???!???? Oh. Wait. I signed my letter. Ok you really aren't very bright.
Getting back to you though, Paul (shush Ralph - down boy!), welcome to the forum. I hope you'll be able to wade through the rubbish to find some help and decent advice.
I wish I could tell you a definitive answer regarding your query, but my experience has really taught me that you just can't tell until you meet them (and even then it can take a good while to see their character).
Hope for the best, plan for the worst. Go with an open mind, but make plans in case it doesn't work out.
Yes Giss,,,, there are some haters here!!! People who hate you!!!! You make all of us look bad!!! I hope you don't tell anyone on your trips that you are an American???? You truly are human garbage!!!!!
Everyone on here knows your name is Greg,, or at least you want us to think it is Greg. You have your email address on here too,,,, why? I hope no one has sent him an email,,, because then he has your email address!!! Giss is too much of a whacko!!
You're not happy enough to simply go to the Ukraine alone,,,, why???
Who would want you to; Show him how it is done properly??? Could you imagine having giss sitting at the table with you,,, telling you what to say??? If they weren't losers before,,,, they soon would be!!!!
Giss,,, why don't you go away until after you return from your trip?? Then,,, after your trip, you can tell us how you're done?!!! Yes,, I worded it just the way i wanted to!!!!
I'm going hunting in two months!!! It was such a success!!! I'm going to shoot a bull moose!!! The bull just doesn't know it yet!!! Doesn't he look good up on the wall??? He hasn't been shot yet,,, but you know,,, that doesn't matter,,, I'm soooooo great!!!!! BARFFFFFFF!!!!
to PAULS: learn about where you going to travel before you go. trust few. and get to know someone before you go. there women who may be looking for a man from another country. there are many more who do not want to leave the home land but will take advantage of you generosity from time to time. don't be a big spender.
Just be cautious and look at this site and some of the twats that post on here!
Most of them use this site to bitch at each other !
WANKERS!!
pm me if you want some real help
Hey rump ranger it's scum like you that makes this place not nearly as good as it could be. Oddly I came here giving step by step advice on what works. Then you the little b---h hater starts with the personal attacks. Why is that rump ranger? WAs your first sexual experience with your dad that bad for you? Then you continue where you admit never having given advice to people. Just to document what a little homosexual you are I offer to meet anyone over there and show them how to contact and meet women. It would bs so easy to show the forum what an impotent little wanker you are. Then by offering my help for free you say I'm trying to "line my pockets". Homoboy do you even know what that means? Did your dad knock your fillings loose when you were "playing" last time? Then, just to be cool I offer any newcomer half of a two bedroom apt, the nicest one in town, which I have already paid for cumbreath, and that's ripping people off? You are right in one way though, the idea of ending up with a little rump ranger like you there, parading an endless stream of men thru thee would be a problem so I'll withdraw that offer. Sorry poser when you manage to get there rather than just dream about going maybe you will have some advice to offer rather than just running thru here humping people's legs
Thanks for all your input. After reading this I still don't know if I'm up to going there alone or not. I'm sorry I had to bring losers out of the wood work here who offer nothing but insults at other members. I'll have to assume they have nothing to offer here or to women overseas and are just bitter. Maybe I'll look around and see if anyone else is going soon.
Giss you are sick!!! and just think,, on another post I just tried to help you?? You are not worth it!!
Just how many screen names do you have??? PaulS, scooby, teddy,, how many more???
All attacking me,,, why?? Because I have kept members from following you!! Why should that matter?? Because you need them to pay your way!!! To mooch money from them once you are in the Ukraine!!!
Two bedroom apt??? Last week it was a one bedroom apt!!!! Starting to lose your memory????
PaulS, be advised that some posts take a few days to get on. So in between what you read and post may be a few unwelcome comments. If you can tune it out then hang in there.
There are actually knowledgable people here who can offer advice.