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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Russian Job Vs American Job Author Post NWF1357 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2011 8:35:32 PM   I am courious..if the girl I am talking to, ends ups coming to USA as say a Nurse in Russia or Phsycolgist....is there any cross connect when she gets to states...does USA recognize any Russian medical stuff...so she can work?? thanks for your thoughts insight kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2011 4:06:41 AM   i have a feeling no western and very few European country's recognize any of their medical diplomas or many others. their medical diplomas can be bought to easy, nurse to brain surgeon. have you any experiences with their hospitals other then Moscow? you dont want to go there, its quite unbelievable. i wouldn't be to comfortable been treated by a Russian in any of our hospitals if i new they didnt have to re-sit their stuff here. anyhow very few diplomas are recognized in NZ,, you have to feel for the Russians who are good and very professional. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2011 7:42:58 AM   If she has the credentials she can get them "translated and verified/notarized". Then she may have to complete (or not) a few courses. Then she must either be accepted as such or pass a professional certification. I know an MD who studied in Russia and is now a practicing physician at a very reputable facility. If she comes over as a nurse there may be some extra things she must do but probably not a whole lot. There are different levels of nursing, recognized degrees or certificates. America has PN's and RN's. There are a few different 'letters' that express this. She will definitely have to be certified by an agency. But as a PN she can probably get work right away. She will also have to prove her proficiency in English. All in all if she is truly educated and qualified it shouldn't take a whole lot. Figure maybe a year to make it happen. Then there are the disclosure laws - criminal background checks etc. Good Luck Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2011 11:20:43 PM   based upon my last GFs experience, she was gonna have to take about 2 years in medical school and then residency and she had been an ER trauma doc. Of course she decided after March this year she preferred Ukraine to USA so it didnt matter,lol franklcsw Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/8/2011 12:15:21 PM   No. She will have to take coursework and pass any licensing/board exams. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2011 5:21:57 PM   My ex-wife, the mother of my child (not kid), came was a dentist in the Philippines. She went through six years of school there, using American text books. They didn't recognize her credentials here. She had to take the tests along with the other dental students in one year increments. It was like attending school, but not the classes, just the final test. It would have taken her more than four years, assuming she passed each test. She dropped out in the last part when she developed an allergy to the powder in the latex gloves. I assume the same treatment will be the same for FSU dentists. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2011 8:11:16 PM   I think I am wrong about my last post. Yes, there is truth that many do not recognize diplomas and such. Even for the honest students. As I have discovered just recently two competing colleges in my area will not even accept the 'credentials' of the other. There is one who requires a certification by "WES" for foreign academia. And then there is an institution with FAR more academic credibility than either of these two that will only require a certified translation of the courses and GPA. But then the standards are very much higher - which is okay. In one way or another they will get your money. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2011 10:43:12 AM   I must mark that on my calendar. You were wrong. Take it easy. I am just kidding. GoodLooking Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2011 9:51:46 PM   After being treated in Lithuanian for many years, I had honour to experience medical :care: in the U.S. and most of what I saw was nice buildings, nice equipment but illiterate or ignorant doctors and staff. I would be too scared to have myself fixed in most American hospitals. As one US doctor told me, and he repeated to me, 95% of deaths in the US hospitals are medical mistakes. US medical diplomas may be not for sale, but what they learn and how they apply it seems to be very low standard. Almost every time I went to a doctor's practice or a clinic in USA I had problems either my blood sample was lost or held for to long or they grossly misdiagnosed me (with a disease I never had) or doctor would come talk to me wearing an outdoors coat telling me she is in a hurry to the airport (and I'm paying for that!) or they would take my cholesterol test and lose it and then after I threaten to sue them they would "find" it and call me to tell me the result, which turned out to be fake (not on paper). I can tell you many stories of my own. How an ER let me barefoot in the snow with underwear to go back home since I had no one pick me up I spent 2 hours barefoot in snow waiting for a taxi cab! And that was after being misdiagnosed with a condition I never had and after 9/11 came to pick me up uninvited (I called and told them suddenly I felt fine and asked them to not come, they said they won't yet they came anyway) and forced me onto their carrier just to attempt to make the $5000 out of me. They talked me into having a very expensive CAT scan ($4000) while my condition was "invented" by them. The ER ride alone cost me $800 one way! I had to return by a taxi cab for $55. I've been to Emergency Room 3 times just because in USA there is no crisis line to call in case of a simple panic attack! Let alone some doctor practice messing up my blood and urine samples badly, and then asking me to pay allmost $500 for a mere cholesterol test. A marine military hospital X-raying my chest 11 times in a row, because the lady failed to position me properly. A dentist practice x-raying me twice 9first one was a failure) without protection while protection was left hanging on the door. A US dentist making my front teeth overlap each other then telling me if I paid more (they did not ask me to pay more in the beginning!) my teeth would not overlap! A doctor at a medical practice in USA told me "you don't need an HIV test since you told me you do not belong to a risk group". A dentist drilling into a good tooth (on top of it!) just in order to damage it so I can come back and let him fix it! I don't even remember all the stories that happened to me alone over just a few years in US medical practices or as they say :medical industry". Medicine in USA is an INDUSTRY! GoodLooking Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2011 9:57:50 PM   After being treated in Lithuanian for many years, I had honour to experience medical :care: in the U.S. and most of what I saw was nice buildings, nice equipment but illiterate or ignorant doctors and staff. I would be too scared to have myself fixed in most American hospitals. As one US doctor told me, and he repeated to me, 95% of deaths in the US hospitals are medical mistakes. US medical diplomas may be not for sale, but what they learn and how they apply it seems to be very low standard. Almost every time I went to a doctor's practice or a clinic in USA I had problems either my blood sample was lost or held for to long or they grossly misdiagnosed me (with a disease I never had) or doctor would come talk to me wearing an outdoors coat telling me she is in a hurry to the airport (and I'm paying for that!) or they would take my cholesterol test and lose it and then after I threaten to sue them they would "find" it and call me to tell me the result, which turned out to be fake (not on paper). I can tell you many stories of my own. How an ER let me barefoot in the snow with underwear to go back home since I had no one pick me up I spent 2 hours barefoot in snow waiting for a taxi cab! And that was after being misdiagnosed with a condition I never had and after 9/11 came to pick me up uninvited (I called and told them suddenly I felt fine and asked them to not come, they said they won't yet they came anyway) and forced me onto their carrier just to attempt to make the $5000 out of me. They talked me into having a very expensive CAT scan ($4000) while my condition was "invented" by them. The ER ride alone cost me $800 one way! I had to return by a taxi cab for $55. I've been to Emergency Room 3 times just because in USA there is no crisis line to call in case of a simple panic attack! Let alone some doctor practice messing up my blood and urine samples badly, and then asking me to pay allmost $500 for a mere cholesterol test. A marine military hospital X-raying my chest 11 times in a row, because the lady failed to position me properly. A dentist practice x-raying me twice 9first one was a failure) without protection while protection was left hanging on the door. A US dentist making my front teeth overlap each other then telling me if I paid more (they did not ask me to pay more in the beginning!) my teeth would not overlap! A doctor at a medical practice in USA told me "you don't need an HIV test since you told me you do not belong to a risk group". A dentist drilling into a good tooth (on top of it!) just in order to damage it so I can come back and let him fix it! I don't even remember all the stories that happened to me alone over just a few years in US medical practices or as they say "medical industry". Medicine in USA is an INDUSTRY! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2011 10:37:52 PM   Good looking,,, have you ever thought that you are just very unlucky??? I know our hospitals make mistakes,, but not as many as you have told!! As for being fixed,,,, I would be afraid to do that in any country!!!! I need all of my parts yet!!! I was in a dental hospital in Odessa, Ukraine in 2009! It looked very 1960's nothing was nice, but,,,, it may be a better system than ours?? Our health care is one of the most advanced in the world,,, but the system is broken! What good is the most advanced health care,,, if only half of the people can afford it???? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2011 1:07:44 AM   What a bunch of crap, good looking. I would answer your post, but every word of your post is a lie. It would take too long. I am not even going to start. GoodLooking Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2011 2:09:53 AM   All I wrote are true experiences of my own, only part of all of my experiences in USA. I missed to describe many details yet, such as in one clinic "URGENT CARE" I waited 2 hours to give urine sample and a blood sample. No one showed up, I went home wasting $70 for the visit since the recipient lady was useless to talk to. This is all in USA, all true, my own experiences. They don't care. I have proof on paper and I have witnesses for some cases and I could take a photo of my front teeth and show how bad they repaired my chipped front tooth (overlapping it onto another tooth) right here in USA for a whopping $800. Or do you want to see a bill where they are charging $70 for a ER napkin? Here's another one - at the optometrist they poke my eye accidentally, it started bleeding. I could not see with that eye for 5 days, yet the optometrist told me it will be fine. If you don't believe me you have no business in this forum. You probably also believe that 9/11 wasn't an inside job. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2011 3:02:52 AM   "As one US doctor told me, and he repeated to me, 95% of deaths in the US hospitals are medical mistakes." What doctor would tell you that? I've been around many times when someone heart stopped beating. Immideately, a technician is pumping the the heart, a tube is inserted in his mouth for breathing, a nurse starts an intravenous tube, a doctor supervises, and orders medication, x-rays, lab....... It's hard for me to think of a mistake a US doctor will make in this instance. After medical school, the doctors here go through residency for 3-7 years. That means they practice under a fully licensed doctor with experience to make darn sure what he learned in school is practiced correctly. Some of your statements are causes for malpractice. Malpractice suits are very high. Any doctor will take care to avoid this. Some of the parts your story is just being clumsy. You can run into one of them once in a great while, but not all of them in a small amount of time. I find it strange that you state that you were misdiagnosed and they tried to bill you $5,000 but you didn't state what the condition was. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2011 3:05:31 AM   "If you don't believe me you have no business in this forum." So,,,, what you are saying,,, is,,,, we have to believe every moron who tries to write on a computer??? WTF!!!!! Morons,,,, where do they all come from???? 911,,, an inside job?? Yeah,, I think Lincoln did it!! With that long beard,,, you just know he was up to no good!!!! Niznaio Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/6/2011 2:32:08 PM   Lot of bad info on this site about converting FSU MD to USA MD license. Here's the real scoop. For a Russian doctor to get a USA medical license she has to pass the USMLE exams. It takes about 1 to 2 years of studying. There is a system called Kaplan which charges $6,000 minimum for the course material and assistance. If your friend passes USMLE with a high score she can apply (with Kaplan's help) for placement in a 3 year residency program at a hospital. Pay will be $40,000 per year in residence, more or less. She may be assigned to any hospital in the US, are you ready for that? Once she completes her residence, she can work as a regular MD starting at about $150 to $200K per year. After 2 years her salary may be considerably higher. It's a long haul but worth it. By the way, stay away from expatriate losers from the FSU who because of jealousy will tell your spouse it can't be done, etc. Hang with positive people and you will get positive results. Kaplan can help with translating her FSU records and the complicated procedures you have to follow. You would be well advised not to attempt this on your own. You might want to check her FSU university is accredited here. If not, she may as well go to medical school all over again. One other thing, many FSU doctors are astonished at the much higher and more rigorous standards for doctors here. The US is way ahead of FSU in terms of the level of medical teaching standards. But if your wife is very intelligent and hard working, she can make it. It's a full time job to pass the USMLE, and you need to really support her so she has time and space to concentrate. Don't expect her to work and study, that would be a recipe for disaster. If you have kids, get help so she can get away from the kids to study. get used to her going to a study center or to attend all day lectures. She may get stressed out by the language and study learning curve. Be positive and supportive. If you import an FSU doctor, you are indeed a lucky man, and should give back by nurturing her to reach her full potential. Then she will be happy and productive, and that should make you happy too. Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/6/2011 2:37:58 PM   I agree with Niznaio. It is huge job to do, but can be done. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2011 3:18:54 PM   I met someone on the plane last night who is a friend of a Russian doctor. She is currently enrolled in a two to three year program to meet the USA medical standards. Nothing is automatic concerning past education from another land. But with a little patience and some work it can easily be turned into a rewarding experience and existence. My friend is completing her residency at a local hospital and is in the process of getting an assignment in a local office affiliate of the hospital. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Russian Job Vs American Job
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