"it must be rather horrible that many Ukrainians have to deal with that sticker of dishonesty stuck to their foreheads by the rest of the world."
"I think they are more embarrassed by the fact that they are being caught!! Professional scammers and pro daters earn more money for the agency!!"
There are just as many dishonest people and probably more on Facebook than vk.
Ukraine is a poor country. The agencies provide the women with men that have money. It is just like putting a kid in a candy factory and telling them not to touch the candy. There is no doubt there are scammers, but I think that word is overused. Relationships go sour for many reasons. Once a gift is given to a woman and the relationship goes sour, she very often is labeled "scammer".
Yet, the agency model is geared towards failure unless you stick with one lady and visit her again at least, a second time. In order to meet a real man, not just correspond, the agency lady must communicate with many. If you visit, there are many others telling her they also will. I think they are looking to see the others who may or probably not visit.
All these Russian dating sites are a total scam. The woman are definitely paid by the site. Compare a serious American dating site, like match
And this screw Americans over by Russian scam artists. I grew up in a borough of New York that is flooded with Russian woman and these woman wouldn't give American men the time of day. Why? Russian men would bash their brains in. They are a tight knit culture that does NOT want to assimilate into American culture. And these Russians are 5th generation Americans!!! So what makes you think, Russian chicks are falling over backwards to come here for a hard up short fat ugly over the hill American? Get real. It's a scam!
The Russian women here in America are no different than the chinese,mexican ,indian ,asian continent people who come to the states at least in my area,they dont assimilate,so true. All the Russian women i have known date the american men and then move in with Russian men who all have businesses.
I agree it's a scam. I know of someone who must have spent $5000 on chat. Another $5000 crisscrossing Ukraine on bus, train and airplane trying to meet the women. Pay to chat, pay for the phone number. When they agree to meet she must have her own interpreter or she will not meet. Pay her taxi. An expensive restaurant. They would agree to meet him but only as a way to get money. One woman asked $500 in monthly support just after one meeting.
Most of the time with the chat it's someone chatting on her behalf.
It's not wrong if an agency makes money. It is wrong if they make it in a dishonest way.
Oh yeah most of their women are just average looking but they undergo a free makeup photo session where they cake on the makeup so you don't see her the way she really is.
As I have said at least a hundred times, there are honest agencies and there are dishonest agencies. Why would anyone spend $5,000 on chat with girls in a country that is known for scams? Chat and telephone calls with a translator are probably the easiest ways to scam men as a lot of those girls are paid to chat and talk on the telephone. Don't ever take a lady to an expensive restaurant on the first date. Take her to a coffee shop for coffee, tea, soda, or pastry. If she insists on going to an expensive restaurant, that is a red flag and the man should run as fast as possible in the other direction. If any girl wants to go to an expensive restaurant on the first date, don't bother meeting because she is not interested in you, only your money. A lot of those girls don't look anything like their photos on those sites. They ONLY way to meet these girls is in person.