Guess what! Instead of going to Ukraine, I went to Romania.. just because I clicked on this one profile from this dating website. I wish I never met her, she was a big scammer with the biggest lies, worse than any Ukrainian girl. I broke up with her on my birthday. And she told me I hurt her. Sure, I hurt her from not stealing from me anymore.
Romania is HARD to find a relationship. They don't trust foriegners, and I am in Galati now and I was in Bucharest which is abit better since they're use to westerners.
In Romania, it takes time to built a relationship. In Ukraine, it's more simple. And I'm 26 now. So December, I am in Kiev with my guide. I did meet a girl in Bacau, and she's 20, but I am just going to Ukraine for a bit to see what I can find. It's soo much easier in Ukraine.
Zarkey,,,,,,, you have quite the story, with 36 views and no one else has dared to share a comment??!
The forum has so much back stabbing,,, that no one is willing to walk into a trap!!
I still believe the Ukraine has the best liars, and an ample supply of them! But who knows,, you could have found Romania’s best??
I’ve been at this long enough, to value my own opinion as the best!!
It doesn’t matter where, or what city,,, big or small, young or old,,, pretty or ugly,,, rich or poor!! This foreign dating game has been here too long, and it’s filled to the brim with scammers!! I’m starting to think,,, the best way to find someone is to find a quiet corner of a city,,, and look for them as if you lived there. If you have enough time to do so??? Most of us don’t!
the problem with ukraine it`s easy to lose relationship. these girls like a
revolving door, leave them alone for 3 months and they getting engaged with someone.
i wonder if mentality of girls in poland or baltic states is different?
Eric,,,,, you are 100% right!!! I’ve had one woman tell me she found someone else,,, and another, I can point to the exact letter marking the day she found someone else! But this one has yet to tell me this,,, even several years later.
The first one was in Odessa. The agency woman claimed the girl was sick, for over a week!! But,, I was in worse shape, so that didn’t matter. The agency woman called me several times a day, trying to get me to see other women, I kept saying; No,,, mostly because I was in no shape for it!! Each time she called, I asked about Eve,,, still sick! I had to leave for Nikolaev but only stayed there for a day,,, and returned to Odessa and met Eve! She was nice, and I had high hopes for us. Less than a month later, she informed me, that she had been in the mountains with her lover during my stay in Odessa! She planned to leave the agency and website, and marry her lover. She didn’t leave right away,,,, and seemed to have second thoughts? I told her; “Once your relationship turned intimate, or even romantic,,,,,, you burned all of your bridges with me!!!!” She turned rather hostile after that!! Perhaps if I never said that, I might have had a chance,,,,, but that was, and still is, the way I feel about such things! She also told me, that her man did not always treat her right,,, but she felt good when they were together. I sometimes think it all could have been a ploy for flowers and gifts,,,, something I never would do after such a deceit!
Five minutes in person, is better than five letters! If any girl has a local guy chasing her, you have little chance!!
Faithfulness, sincerity, genuineness, and honesty,,, is what I look for beyond looks,,,,, and I’m not finding it!! Anyone that finds a woman, is always going to be worrisome about such things! You just don’t know what is going on when you’re not there!!! It’s one thing to trust,,, it’s another to be a fool! I had one girl say; Get to know someone first,,,,, trust later!! That particular girl is now a prostitute in Moscow!!!!
Only Danny can imagine someone sending money to anyone for two years. Of course, he is talking about me. This is another example of his making things up. This is something he repeats and repeats. Just how am I supposed to answer that? Any answer, he will make it look bad. No answer is what I have done and he repeats it ad nauseaum.
Get a life, fool. This is what I mean by mind your own business. Your fiance is not enough? You have to make others look bad so you can feel good? Is she that bad? See what happens when you get a plain looking girl?
Gee Danny,,, you are a true bastard!! Do you now know why you get so much shit from everyone????
You talk about keeping everything on one thread,, but here you are,,, trashing Rb and me!!!
This was an honest thread,,,,,,,, and then came danny!!!!!
Haven't you said in the past,,, that you would never go to the Ukraine?????????? Because the girls are all scammers???? Do I need to find that for you too??????
Why don't you go some place where you're wanted??? Where??? I do not know,,, not around here for sure!!!!
Danny, it will be at least three months that you leave your fiance alone, right? If eric is right, like you said, that's enough to make her a scammer. If I know you, it only works for other people's women, not yours. Get a life and mind your own business, fool.
Well sometimes I will have to be gone for 3 months... Hopefully the girl I'm with dont find someone else. Or a dual relationship....
No If I was in Ukraine, I would have a GREAT GIRLFRIEND BY NOW!!! Don't give money to anyone unless you're getting fucked. Physically not mentally.... If you're spending every day with her, then that's a good thing..
The good thing about this dating website, theres lots of Ukranian girls to date!!
I’m telling you,,,, that a girl will scam a guy!!! You haven’t taught me anything,,,, you just found something and won’t let it go!!
At the end of this,,, my two long posts,,, I told what happened,,, why it happened,, and how others should not follow what I have done!!! It should have been over and done with almost a year ago!!
But,,, what can I say,,, you are a bastard!!!
I told a very sincere, honest story,,, and almost a year later, I am still paying for it???!!!!
Oh,,, are all of the girls in the Ukraine “Pro shoppers???”
Best Country for serious ladies
20/11/2010
Danny
i cant see a girl spending say 3 months talking and writing to have a one week shopping trip .
i cant see its posible to tell any kind of chemistry until you are with someone in person , from cam and phone its impossible to tell chemistry
LR,,,” Me” 26/11/2010
Hey, Danny41 !!?? Yes! A girl can, and will wait months to go on a shopping trip, in fact, she will for the second year or second trip, just and only for a shoping spree!! I know!! I would show you the bills,,, but she has all of the receipts! I was fed up with the system, and I located my girl from the year before! It seemed like we were getting along just fine. I knew they like testing their men, to see if he is serious or not! So, I was all in! If it doesn't work out between us, the money won't matter, because I won't ever come back again!! I should listen to myself, a little more closely!!!
And for the main question,,,,, don't go looking in Kiev!! That's where we went shopping! They are all pros, any girl who isn't content with their "little" city,,, you know; the ones smaller than a million, all head to Kiev!! And Yes! I'm a little bitter!!
Danny 27/11/2010
well its a bit silly if you have been ripped of by a lady shopping lonlyranger
the easy solution is to not take her shopping in the first place and to not go to ukraine where they are all pro shoppers . a good russian girl will want you to save money not spend it ! many guys are using gifts and shopping to buy a bit of love or just keep the women interested .
why did you spend so much money ... are you desperate for the lovely looking lady to want you .
was this the plan ?
LR 1/12/2010
Hey danny41?? Lol Yes! I think I am desperate,,, isn’t that why we are all here?? My nickname is; lonelyranger,,,, not busyranger!!
The story with her is; We had met before and got along great! Our letters were good too, before our first meeting and after. But,,, last summer 2009, her letters changed, she would let them sit unread for a week or more. She claimed to be sick, but gave few details and even fewer answers! Her letters weren’t being translated very well either, many mistakes! It turns out, it was her agency that was dropping the ball, and they were at times a week behind! I had been upset with her over this,,, and she never truly forgave me. She left the site and I lost contact with her!
This last winter, I went to see someone else, and it did not work at all. I contacted someone else who I had been writing to, but she did not show up! I started looking through my notes from the previous year, and found a phone number! I called it, and Katya answered,,, and she is now in Kiev!!
I did buy her things to win her attention, but also to help her out! Half of the things she bought were useful! If we were to be a couple, this is something I would have done automatically!
At the first dinner together this winter, I could tell she was a little on the hungry side. She had lost about 20 lbs which gave me a few moments of pause,,,,, 1, she’s no longer eating her Mother’s cooking, and 2, having sex 1 to 10 times a day will do that??!!! Her style of clothing changed drastically!!!
I didn’t get to spend as much time with her as I wanted, but we did have some good moments. I did spend a bundle on her shopping,,,, I also gave her my leftover cash,, grevnares,,, about 5,500! This was for getting her own internet hookup! I thought all of my actions would lead us to a future together. ,,,,,,, NOT!!
I get home and I look for her email,,,,, there’s no email! I wait awhile,, and then I try to call! I can’t seem to get through? Sometimes I get a message in English; your call can not be completed as dialed, or,, it rings once, and then a busy signal? I know some cell phones have an “Ignore” button??? I did finally get through to her by calling at 4:00am here! She had a 101 excuses, but no good ones!
So,,,, to anyone who is reading this!!!
Yes! If she is a good honest girl,,,, she will want to help save you money!!!!!!
If everything that we did together was a total lie during my last trip, then so was the first trip!!! There were dozens of little red flags,,, I saw them, but made excuses for her and gave her the benefit of doubt! I couldn’t believe it either, that someone could be lying for so long, so many letters, just for a “chance” to scam!! That was my biggest mistake!!!
I didn’t have any real plan during my last trip,,, except perhaps; to be a nice guy??!!
Danny 4/12/2010
lonly ... if you are desperate why dont you find a women who is not a model . just your average nice lady ... the girl im meeting has a long neck , slightly strange ears and big freakey eyes .. but wow what an amazing nice lady . everything 100% honest so caring loves animals , the other night she was home cooking pandcakes with her mother at the age of 32 . makes her own cloths , she has spent the last 2 months embrodiring a picture to give me on our holiday .rings me at her cost from her phone atleast once a week . checks to see what im doing often with sms and talks everyday on skype cam . she is very pritty (i think ) but not a model and probably wouldnt grab a second glan
checks to see what im doing often with sms and talks everyday on skype cam . she is very pritty (i think ) but not a model and probably wouldnt grab a second glance from a stranger . i swear there are millions of these ladys in russia . yes it would be nice to have a perfect looking lady like a calender girl but im not a calender man . and i dont feel like spending the rest of my life ,spending my hard earned money on some russian model i could never trust
to give me on our holiday .rings me at her cost from her phone atleast once a week .
lonly i had a relationship with another russian lady that im very upset passed away . she was also the kindest lady i have ever met ... i dont think you will find that type of kind in a model lady ...
evern the models are going to have a kid there ass is going to explode there boobs are going to colapse i think to find nice on the inside is all that matters ... that will never change ..
dont be desperate ... look at who you are , stand and look in the mirror and then go and find a women that suits you and your needs . get cought up in the glamerouse russian thing and you will be lonly and desperate for the rest of your life like many that visit this forum
LR 6/12/2010
Rick and danny,,, Hi guys. I should have elaborated a little more in my previous letter.
I’m not desperate for any girl, because “any” girl is right here at home. But I am desperate for the right girl. My views about the “right” woman are very similar to yours danny! Your Lady sounds great,,,, does she have a sister?? She is doing all of the “little” things, that make a relationship work!! A concept my “former” girl; Katya could never grasp!! I’m not looking for a model either! In fact, on other sites I have wrote; “I am looking for an easy going girl!! If you are a model,,, or think you should be a model,, then you are not an easy going person!!!!” I don’t want to be wondering; what she is doing,, every time she is a few minutes late!! Having said that,, I still want a girl, that “ I “ think is pretty to me!! A girl that has “ the look “ that makes me “shiver me timbers” !! I can look through hundreds of profiles and find many or almost all of the girls to be pretty,,,, but very few, if any, to have “that look”!!
My former girl,,, started as a sweet, simple girl!! In her profile pics, she was wearing a brown plaid dress, very simple, but she looked great to me! She went to an agricultural college! I’m self employed with a farm and an agricultural business!! But, if you looked at her photos in progression; her profile pics, her photos from our first meeting, and from our last,, you can see she went from simple to va-va--va-voom!! It wouldn’t be right for me to say; You are too beautiful now!! We also have to consider,, that she dressed that way for me??? Russian Ladies want their men to be proud of them!! To me,,,, I don’t like my dates, to give all the men around us,,,,,, a free treat!!! Lol I’m not the sharing type!!!
It seems to me,,, that everyone who made a comment about this, thinks I’m some poor sad sap from Hackensack??!! Lol No, not every day of the week!! I’m okay looking, but since I went from busyranger to lonelyranger, I put on about 20lbs around the waist!
On one of the largest dating sites here, (US) my profile photo, won their “sexiest “ male user!!! My very first thought was; Auh, it’s some promotion BS??!! I then looked at my own photo for a while,, and thought;,,, It does have a rugged quality!! I went online with a friends computer, at his home, and went to that site without logging in!! Sure enough,, there it was, my photo,,, the sexiest male user??!!!
Of the few people, who have seen the photos of Katya and I together,,, everyone says; we make a great looking couple!! Katya said it too!! Katya is 23 and I am 46,, but I look more like 40!! ( and I act my shoe size lol ) I wouldn’t be looking for someone who is that much younger than I am,,, but I want to start a family,,, not marry one,, like I would almost have to do here at home!!
About buying her gifts,, we were supposed to be a couple!! That ended when I stepped onto the plane I guess?? If someone gave me presents,, I would take them too!! But, if someone was giving them to me, because we are planning a future and getting into commitments,, would it not be wrong of me, to accept them, if I had no intentions of having a relationship with her???? I think there is a big difference!! I think Rick4girl can relate with this,,, being in an almost similar situation?
Getting back to the original topic;,,,,, my girl went from her small town, to Lugansk, to Kiev!! At every step of the way, changing from the sweet girl I fell for, to a big city hottie, who could be a model, but has declined everything and decided to be a scammer instead? It is the simplest explanation that fits!!
DUNT,,, now that you have read the story again,,, you can talk trash for another year!!!!!!
Zarkey!!! I'm really sorry I wasted one second on you!!! I think you should get your info right from danny or also known as DUNT!! PM him, so nobody else has to waste a second!!!
DUNT,,, how many fake profiles do you have????????????????????????????????????
Because of one guy who hates all Americans!!!!
He hates what we say!
He hates where we live!
He hates when we go somewhere!!
He hates what we do!!
He hates seeing our user names on the screen,,, and has to add his dribble after it!
I'm sure he hates other countries too,,, just don't ever say where you are from!!!!