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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > question: how many of these ladies are really looking for long term marriage Author Post akronrules Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2011 9:54:49 PM   and move to the U.S, marry someone 10 years older and raise a family versus looking for a free ticket and citizenship and take off in a couple of years? how do you filter through the ones with right motives and intentions? kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2011 7:17:06 AM   very few sincere girls want your US citizenship Akron,, or mine if that matters. theses girls just dont have the male population available for what they want in their country. in another 50 years there, theres just going to be a whole lot more girls wanting a normal relationship, children, family life which russia will not be able give them. the gap rate between male and female born there is massively out of kilter and becoming much worse. worst in the world i gather... yeah Russians Ukraine's have bad sperm,, or should i say more female giving sperm. anyway i have given you the basic intention and motive, so go fourth. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2011 3:08:26 PM   few to none,,,,,,,, you don't!! durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2011 8:04:36 AM   I see there are already some contrasting points of view :) I have not yet found any statistics on international dating OR international marriage, that (in my opinion) are of any value in understanding how they really work. To properly survey this would be a very big and difficult project, and probably no one has invested the time, effort and money that would be needed. One way to answer your first question, would be to look at all of the profiles on dating websites. I believe that the vast majority are scam profiles (very often, profiles not created by the woman whose pictures appear on the profile). So the percentage of profiles that represent serious marriage prospects would be quite small indeed. If instead you look at women who actually make a first meeting, this would exclude most of the scam profiles, so the percentage of serious marriage prospects would be higher. But a lot of these women are looking only for shopping trips, free vacations, entertainment etc, and have little or no interest in marrying a foreigner. Many of them already have a man of their own -- but MAYBE are deceitfully shopping for someone better, if he happens to be a very good catch. So you can go one step further, and consider only women who are seriously determined to marry, and are willing to become expatriates and make a life with a man from a different culture. Some of them only want legal foreign residency, and will happily ditch their new husband at the first moment he displeases her, or she meets a man she likes better. Some of them are just desperate, and want to make the exit from their unhappy circumstances with the first seemingly decent man who will marry them, whether they have any feelings for him or not. And some want the "whole package" so many of us dream about -- these women are the prize, after all. Finally, of those women who sincerely want to create a loving family abroad, most have limited understanding of the difficulties -- functioning in a foreign language environment, large differences in food and culture, often the complete loss of any career status she had at home, and most difficult of all removal from the tight-bound network of family and friends she has enjoyed at home. Life is MUCH harder "over there," and people rely strongly on such networks. It's easy to understand, that the transition to this new life can be much more difficult and painful than she might have imagined. Though becoming fluent in a foreign language is an enormous project, it only one of many daunting challenges she will face. In order to fully to seal the deal, she must not only be completely sincere in her intentions, but able and willing to "tough it out" during the years of hard work needed to feel at home in her new life. Luckily, these women are usually very strong (they have to be), which is big asset in facing these challenges. And you (her prospective husband) must be prepared to support her not only financially, but in many other ways, along this journey. _______________________________________________ As to the second question -- I hope that in thinking about what I wrote above, you will see some of the things you'll need to learn about a woman from the former Soviet Union, AND about yourself, in order to feel confident that the two of you can build a family. Spend as much time together as can be managed. Get to know her family as well as you can, and her friends. Despite a fearsome reputation, must people of the FSU are very kind to those they know, and more than one man has been "warned off" by family or friends of their prospective fiancee! You will have the opportunity to learn how she treats people, what she values most, how she relates to children, how she deals with conflict, and many other vital things. If you see her baring her fangs and treating someone like dirt (however much this person may seem to deserve it) bear in mind that your turn could come later! (Many Russian women are like cats: either soft purring fur, or slashing claws and puncturing teeth -- and the transition can come in the blink of an eye.) Luckily, these FSU courtships are usually a rocky road with plenty of hurdles -- this is lucky, because it gives you the opportunity to see how she handles frustrations, disappointments, and setbacks. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2011 11:38:05 AM   Of course if you get one whose plans it is to take off in a couple of years, you could be the man she wants and change her mind. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2011 2:35:19 PM   To everyone who has just read durak's post,,,,, make a copy of it,,, enlarge it, put it in a large gold frame, and hang it on your wall!!! Durak,,, well done!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2011 5:16:56 PM   One of the girls I am writing to, is making a fuss about answering questions!! I just sent her a copy of duraks work!! I am curious to know what shade of red her face will be??? lol Durak,,,I hope it's okay ?? durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2011 9:00:20 AM   I don't mind at all, lonelyranger (BTW are you a Trekkie?) It helps to be tactful, of course, but if a woman resists answering questions about herself, that is suspicious (BUT I have several times run into confusion due to language/translation issues, so some patience may be needed). If she doesn't even acknowledge that you asked a question, then you probably have a scammer who sends a series of form letters. Even more important, a woman who seriously wants to make a life-long marriage, WILL HAVE PLENTY OF QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU (BUT she may be a little shy about asking them at first). If after a few letters she seems incurious, I take that as a bad sign. PS I still don't know what to make of this, but I had a couple of exchanges of letters with a woman who seemed OK and is still on elenasmodels -- when I asked her a couple of serious marriage-oriented questions (to clear up "show-stopper" issues about her ability to emigrate with her child), she interpreted that as my not trusting her -- as if she thought that I suspected her of being crooked. All of the correspondence is filtered through barriers of language and culture differences; the possibilities for misunderstanding are enormous. dungy377 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2011 6:42:41 PM   ukraine women can not cope with my superior interlectual nowledge. Lockland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2011 10:16:59 AM   Durak said correclty stating all the important facts & yet closing with a positive paragraph meaning go ahead & try your luck. Over when I joined fiance & anastasiadate 4 years ago, I have made 2 websites anastasiascammers dot com & online-scammers dot com. If anyone wants to know real facts about scams just take a look at my websites & you will get a better understanding of severity of dating a foriegner from another country. They prefer locals & yes if you happen to be a good catch which means a rich & super model & you speak russian only than they will consider you... lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2011 8:54:10 PM   Hi durak,, yes I am a Star trek fan. I've been without internet for a few days and I am at a friends house right now. I'll write a reply in a day or two. I have a lot to add!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2011 4:44:56 AM   Lockland???????? Your website anastasiascammers.com had it's domain expire,,, and I think it's for sale??? I tried it several times,,,, it was useless with only 6 scammers listed!!?? The most complete anti scammer site I have found is scammerlist.com! It has 5054 scammers listed, and is okay to use. Only one thing I didn't like,,,, Aweb advertizes on the site, I'd bet it's to make themselves look better. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2011 9:00:16 AM   answer: 1 in a thousand lonely - lockland and his alter ego have been promoting a website for scammers for a while. I never looked into it - never had the need. but a guy who gets burned (scorned) or whatever who has an axe to grind will go to extremes to get vengeance. it is why there is so much nonsense on this forum. so many whiners... and I wonder... why do so many post links to other websites or utube videos. does anyone actually look at these????? I don't. for all I know it could be a link to some virus that will infect your computer. I assume that my protection is up to date, but why chance it?????? why do yous guys continue to post links to that nonsense????? I assume it is nonsense. it can be nothing more than making fun or ridicule of others. or else it is another tactic of phishing. who knows? but internet safety should be in everyone's mind. why would anyone click on a link to something they have no clue about? it is beyond me. have a good day y'all Niznaio Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/24/2011 5:35:04 PM   I was lucky. I found a doctor over there and went to see her, things went well but she wasn't impressed with me. I went back to see her a dew days later, which shocked some sense into her, and things took off. We travelled together a couple of times to Turkey, I visited her and her family 5 times. We stayed in separate rooms when we travelled because she wanted to test me to see if I was serious. No sex for 6 months for the same reason. Two years long distance dating. It's been 5 years since we married. We have a baby. She is going to medical school to get her US license. It's been a rocky road because she is a bit of a princess because her whole family are rock stars in the medical business and get VIP treatment over there so she was shocked to be ignored here when she had a cold. Over there, the chief doctor would rush to her house with a medical team if she had a sniffle. When I was unemployed for a year she was awful to me, typical Russian way to correct my behavior. They are tough mistresses! As for age difference, she is 30 years younger than me. She's 30 but looks 20. I'm not complaining. I keep up with her and baby by going to the gym several times a week and I gave up ice cream and junk food to get rid of that flab. Sometimes her family and she ignore me and throw their weight around. I found the best way to deal with that is tell them that I am the head of this household and will not tolerate bullshit from anyone. That's what they expect at home, so I play along. I understand Russian pretty well so I can follow what she's saying to her girlfriends. Thanks Durak for the tips on being supportive. My wife is a smart woman but she finds learning English and studying medicine very tough because US medicen is far more comprehensive and advanced than in Russia. Watch out for a change in behavior once the honeymoon is over, Russians tend to be pretty hard nosed now they have us where they want us. So be ready to stand up to them. be flexible. I had some experience with scammers: they fall in love with you immediately and tend to ignore questions. I found serious ones will drill down quite hard with the questions for you. Watch out for A_date: that is full of girls getting 20% commission off the ridiculous fees, $10 to open mail, read mail, see video, see photos. It could cost you $100 to just open a conversation. If she won't give her private email she is a scammer. Some girls don't have computer and internet at home so they use agencies, which leads to abuse. My wife's agency told her scams to milk me out of money and vacations, and they were surprised when she said that she was going to marry me. Well guys, it ain't easy but aim high, be flexible, and if it's too good to be tru, then it probably isn't. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/25/2011 7:58:57 AM   Niznaio, thanks for posting a very cool account of your experience -- it is both inspiring and scary, as any true tale of Russia should be! I appreciate that she was cautious (no sex for 6 mos). A lot of men wouldn't comprehend this. And now you have a child -- awesome! Good luck, moving forward. PS -- Ya tozhe niznaio lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/26/2011 3:01:36 AM   First,, let me correct my own mistake;,, advertises! Yes danny,,, it is better to use a friends wi fi than to go to McD’s,,,,, especially if you want pizza. Nothing was wrong with my computer, my payment was past due!!! They never sent me a bill, or even an email saying my account was past due?? Durak,,, my girl liked your post! I might send her Niz’s story too?? I have been writing to her for almost a year, and I am planning to see her again soon. She answers most of my questions, but just doesn’t seem to understand this one!! I am able to see when she receives letters, and it does not bother me too much that she receives them, she has no real control over them. But it is the timing or pattern of the letters, it is not at random. She gets them like this;,,, 0-0-0-2-0-0-0-3-0-0-0-2??! Too predicable to be letters from new men, it must be from men who have been writing for a while! I noticed that pattern from the very beginning,,, and it did not bother me before our first meeting, because I knew few men ever make the trip, but I’m making my 2nd trip to see her soon and I want it to be more exclusive! She claims to only send “refusals” to men who write to her, and she does not send out intro letters! On the day her other letters come in,,, is also the day I get my reply from her!! She goes to the agency just before or after those other letters come in,,,, and I get my reply that day too! She never really says, that she is not writing to other men,, but rather; "I have no other serious correspondence like ours"! That could mean anything!! She is saying it like,,,,, the two of us, are the only serious relationship she has,,, but it could also say;;; she has more serious correspondence? kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/28/2011 5:54:22 PM   hey lonley, i wouldn't look to deep into that at this time. i pushed this with the girl i'm interested in, as in keep having correspondence with others. been sure we were a match is not a short process, so not to limit herself and i dont like the idea of desperate.. whats important is to see if you two are a good fit together, the rest just dose not matter, what ever correspondence she has(and yeah i believe she has) it shows its a direction shes possible serious in taking to finding someone, really in the end, will it be you or not.. Niznaio i dont think you were lucky, idiots are lucky.. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2011 9:51:33 AM   At some point during our correpondence she will need to tell the truth,,, or stay home! I know what you're saying;,,, she's just looking out for herself! But if she's implying that I am the only one,,,,, then I better be the only one!! Anything else is just working for the agency,,,,,, and I hate agencies!!! Niznaio Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/6/2011 9:58:02 PM   For those following my experience: I was commuting to Moscow from USA every 2 weeks so had easy access to play the field.She was my only target though, really. I visited my fiancee maybe 6 times and took her to Turkey twice. First time with her family, second time just the two of us. It's essential to invest the time to get to know her and the family. once they start to support you in marrying her, it gets easier. If I had to pay for all those RT biz class airfares (20 in two years) the story might have ended differently. At the immigration interview the official did not like me (30 yr age difference)and denied us permission for her to stay. I blurted out "But she's pregnant, here's the ultrasound". Suddenly all was smiles and tears, and she relented. My advice, make sure you set up joint accounts and have the evidence, because so many marriages are fraudulent, they expect yours to be too. Don't give the immigration folks ammo to turn you down. Lockland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/29/2012 1:14:37 AM   Look I know Eugenia which is on anastasiascammers dot com & she has been on the aweb site for over 4 years since I joined aweb as regular member & I last wrote to her in Dec 2011 & she is the same, now seriously speaking if a beautiful girl as Eugenia is one any website lets say - are the aweb people saying she is unable to find partner ? Give me a break, with the traffic aweb gets & a girl as Eugenia factually will not take more than 3 months for the get linked with a gentleman!!! Any comments appreciated? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > question: how many of these ladies are really looking for long term marriage
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