Hi I like your profile and I would like to talk with you and visit you in 6 months or a year.I don't tell you this but I pay per letter too many girls as I am new too this.Just a sad man who cant get a woman in my own country so I hear about poor sexy home loving girls in Russia and Ukraine who are happy to marry a man from another country as long as he can love me and take care of me as I a simple girl.
He travels thousands and thousands of miles.If he is lucky he gets too the apartment meets the girl.Has meeting but this loser is always watching his spending.How much for taxi what she orders on the menu.She spends over $10 he complains.They go shopping for a gift for her.He always look for what she wants.She want bag or shoes $100.I not spend that she must be a scammer.But he a loser saved up 6 months for this travel to bag a wife.
If you haven't got a clue if you haven't got the money if you are a social misfit go too Russia or Ukraine meet a nice girl and marry her and fuck her life up.When she divorces and returns home with nothing you can go back again and find another.For us who understand the country and the culture the people glad you got hurt.Do your home work.............Also Thailand is getting expensive so expect more sex tourist in Ukraine you losers.
Привет! Ты мне тоже понравился!Да, да я сексуальная,красивая, очень люблю готовить еду, убираться, я буду ухаживать за тобой- ты только забери меня к себе!
Я закрою глаза на то, что ты скупой.В нашей стране скупой мужчина- это не мужчина вовсе! я буду чувствовать себя ужасно когда ты будешь считать, сколько на меня потратил. Я не привыкла к такому обращению. Даже когда у меня был бедный парень студент- он всегда пытался меня порадовать. А когда я встречалась с состоявшимся мужчиной- мне и в голову не приходило, что он может напряжённо ждать- что я там закажу в ресторане.Он любил меня, дарил цветы, подарки, если мне нужны были деньги- его даже не надо было просить.Ведь я- женщина.Я не феминистка.А мужчина ДОЛЖЕН ухаживать.
Вначале я попытаюсь тебя понять- твою культуру, менталитет.Я буду ожидать, что ты тоже меня поймёшь! Но если ты не поймёшь- я буду молчать. Я буду долго молчать, хотя эта ситуация меня будет подавлять.Я хочу уехать отсюда.И ты- мой шанс.Я готова ради этого потерпеть.Я буду делать вид, что всё хорошо.Тебе и в голову не придёт, что я только ТЕРПЛЮ тебя. Я не полюблю тебя- я женщина, и я могу любить только МУЖЧИНУ! А настоящий мужчина - это джентельмен. С ним я буду чувствовать себя как за каменной стеной.Он не будет подсчитывать, сколько на меня потратил.Потому, что когда любят- заботятся.А в тебе я разочаруюсь.Невозможно любить того, кто делает тебе больно. А если ты считаешь, что женщина должна быть самостоятельной и сама себя полностью обеспечивать- почему ты не женился на женщине из своей страны?
Ты нашёл себе игрушку для пользования.
Но неужели ты думаешь, что я буду это терпеть до конца жизни? Щас!!!!!
В твоей стране я тебе найду замену за 5 минут. Надо только получить документы, устроиться на работу- и - всего доброго!
А ты на этом форуме будешь писать и плакаться, что я была мошенницей! А ты весь такой хороший!
НЕУЖЕЛИ ТЫ ВСЕРЬЁЗ СЧИТАЛ, ЧТО МОЖНО ПОЛУЧИТЬ РУССКИЕ ПРЕИМУЩЕСТВА НА ИНОСТРАННЫХ УСЛОВИЯХ?
Что ты получишь всё, чего ожидал от русской женщины, но будешь продолжать вести себя так, как вёл бы себя с женщиной из твоей страны?
Мне было с тобой очень плохо все эти годы- я чувствовала себя очень одинокой.Ты получал мою заботу, но обо мне не заботился.
Вот только я не дура- я тебе не позволю FU ck up мою жизнь.
Ты получил то , что заслужил.Отношения, в которых нет ВЗАИМНОЙ заботы- обречены.
А я одна не останусь. В твоей стране Я БУДУ ВЫБИРАТЬ! И я обязательно встречу того, кого полюблю и кто полюбит меня и создам с ним крепкую и счастливую семью.
TINTIN makes a great point because I see that shat every day there.
Of course you will spend on a girl, usually little things as they test you.
There is a saying in Ukraine, "Dont date guys who count their money" (best translation)
The younger ones especially know this. They have internet and have an idea of who are real and who are
losers. If you have had to save up 6 months for a 2 week trip that easily exceeds $3000 and think you can
make a good impression on $500 bucks on ladies over that 2 week period then you are foolish. There are plenty
of guys like that already in Ukraine. A girls inst gonna come to your country only to dtruggle with you financially when they can do that at home without you.
Get realistic guys.
If you are curious what 'Vesnovka' posted above, here is my best guess at translation:
Hi! You also are pleasing to me! Yes, yes I'm sexy, beautiful, I love to cook, get out, I'll look after you - only take me to yourself!
I close my eyes, to your cheapness. In our country, a greedy man is no man at all! I will feel terrible when you calculate how much you spent on me. I'm not used to such treatment. Even when I had as a boyfriend an impoverished student - he was always trying to please me. And when I would met with a man, the thought didn't enter my head that he waited tensely, when I order in the restaurant. He loved me, gave flowers, gifts, if I needed the money - I didn't even have to ask. After all, I'm a woman. I'm not a feminist. A man should court.
At first, I will try to understand you, your culture and mentality. I would expect that you will understand me too! But if you do not understand - I will be silent. I will be silent for a long time, although this situation will depress me. I want to leave. And you - my chance. I am ready to suffer for the sake of it. I will pretend that all is well. And you will not even think, that I just PUT UP with you. I do not love you - I'm a woman and I love men only! A real man - a gentleman. With him I feel like a stone wall. He will not calculate how much he spent on me. Because when one loves - one takes care. And in you I will be disappointed. It is impossible to love someone who hurt you. And if you think that a woman should be independent and provide herself entirely - why are not you married a woman from your country?
You found a toy to use.
But do you really think that I'll tolerate it for the rest of my low life? Right now!!!!!
In your country I'll find a replacement for you after 5 minutes. It is only necessary to obtain the documents to get a job, and - farewell!
And you'll be on this forum to write and complain that I was a fraud! And you all are such good men!
YOU REALLY SERIOUSLY BELIEVE, THAT YOU CAN GET RUSSIAN BENEFITS FOR FOREIGN CONDITIONS? That you get everything you expect from a Russian woman, but will continue to behave as would behave with a woman from your country?
For me, it was very bad with you all these years - I felt very lonely. You received my care, but did not care about me.
Only I'm not a fool - I will not let you F*ck up my life.
You got what you deserved. A relationship in which there is not MUTUAL care - is doomed.
And I will not remain alone. In your country, I WILL CHOOSE! And I will meet whomever I will love and who loves me, and will build him a strong and happy family.
Durak - Браво!!!! Exellent translation!
Only one thing- ЗА каменной стеной- behind stone wall(you will be the stone wall snd I 'll feel safely and securely)
Durak,,, from what I understand, writing turns out like that, when received by an incompatible program?? Am I right?? If so,, how did you translate that letter??
I am very curious to know just WHO this Vesnovka is!! Is she a real person,,, is she a woman, or one of the lunatics here???
Danny has no other life, other than the forum,,, perhaps he is getting creative???
I will agree, that we have lost our ability to court on these websites!! A new guy starts writing,, sends gifts,, and quickly learns that he is pissing money away!! Making an agency or website rich,,, and only receiving a photo for his efforts! How many times will this happen, before you say; They are not getting another dime from me???? I haven’t sent flowers over or through a website in 3 years!! I have bought them in person, and other gifts,,,, in person, but never through a website again!!!!
I have been damn generous during my time in Ukraine,,,, and I have nothing to show for it!! I have taken a lot of crap over it, and they (the Dunts) have not changed the way I date,,, and they never will!! But the women must understand, that money does not flow, like an endless river???!! But still, I am happy to be generous,,, with a genuine sincere woman!! I haven’t found any yet, that are WORTHY!!!!!
Ves???? Just when should all of this generosity start????? How much are you willing to sell yourself for???? That’s the way I view your letter and it’s meaning!! Not too long ago,, another woman wrote; A Ukrainian/Russian woman is like a cat,,, she goes to whoever has the most food!!! Women who are that fickle,,, I believe should stay in their own country and rot!!!!
In an harmonious and caring relationship, you must have; Honestly, sincerity, loyalty, devotion,,,, and trust!!! Who wants to live, with the threat of doom hanging over his head,,, if she feels neglected one week,,,,, Poof, she’s gone???? I would rather spend the rest of my life ALONE, than to worry everyday that she could leave at any time without warning!!!
Ves,,, if you were my girl, I would kick your ass to the curb!!! Go wandering down the streets and try to find someone else in five minutes if you can???? If every man read your letter,,,, I think five years would be more accurate!!!
Most men here, are getting all of the bills,, and none of the benefits!!
Fool me once,,, shame on you!! Fool me twice,,, shame on me!!!
Women who give their love for gifts or money are called WHORES!!!!
Where I live, the lifestyle and conditions are pretty damn good!! To any woman who thinks the conditions are not good enough for her,,,, can bleep herself!!!
To any guy who has just read Ves’s story, and thinks she is sincere about it,,,, put Russia and Ukraine in your rear view mirror,,,, and never look back!!!
There is more than one way to encode Cyrillic as numeric character codes. Indeed, there are four standard encodings. If it comes out as gibberish on a browser (or email program), there is some way on the browser etc. to change the encoding.
Vesnovka's Cyrillic uses the Microsoft encoding (code page 1251).
I don't assume that Vesnovka's statement is personal. To me, it seems a depiction of a "typical" failed international marriage from a Russian woman's point of view.
As I read it, the man is greedy, ignorant, insensitive and uncaring. He expects the woman to do all for him -- while doing little for her, simply because she is from a country with so many problems.
On the other hand, the woman who is so dissatisfied with him doesn't talk to him about the problems, but deliberately keeps silent. She suffers for some time, planning her escape. At the first moment of opportunity, she throws her new husband over for something better -- he means almost nothing (how can he? he is "no man at all"). To her, he is not so much a human being, as her "chance" for the better life.
Can we say that ONE of this pair is calculating? Indeed, aren't they a fine match, who deserve each other well?
hat a fuorious man!!!!!! How much expressive words!, energy!,passion! Ё маё- if you are so in bed- you wife will be craisy about you!mmmmmm!
I'm just from bathroom- washed myself from the rotten eggs and tomatoes, thrown by you.
1-Will it change anything if i'm a woman? Or a Danny?Or a FSU man?
If i'm DANNY- i can imagine what you will say
If i'm FSU man- i also can imagine
But if i'm a russian w- say please what will you think.Just be genuine.
You are very curious- who i am.If you want- i'll show my foto
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Danny has no other life, other than the forum,,, perhaps he is getting creative???'''''''''''
(what does it mean-lunatic? The word i understand- the using in forum- not)
Sorry, DANNY!
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I will agree, that we have lost our ability to court on these websites!! A new guy starts writing,, sends gifts,, and quickly learns that he is pissing money away!! Making an agency or website rich,,, and only receiving a photo for his efforts! How many times will this happen, before you say; They are not getting another dime from me???? I haven’t sent flowers over or through a website in 3 years!! I have bought them in person, and other gifts,,,, in person, but never through a website again!!!!
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Why do you(everybody) send gifts before seing her?Flowers- o k, but gifts? Do you think that honest woman expect and want and will be glad to get it from you? Before the first meeting?
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I have been damn generous during my time in Ukraine,,,, and I have nothing to show for it!! I have taken a lot of crap over it, and they (the Dunts) have not changed the way I date,,, and they never will!! But the women must understand, that money does not flow, like an endless river???!! But still, I am happy to be generous,,, with a genuine sincere woman!! I haven’t found any yet, that are WORTHY!!!!!
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'The Dunts'- i coldn't understsnd.Who said it to you that the woman woldn't understand that money doesn't flow.....? I? Show- where?
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Ves???? Just when should all of this generosity start????? How much are you willing to sell yourself for???? That’s the way I view your letter and it’s meaning!! Not too long ago,, another woman wrote; A Ukrainian/Russian woman is like a cat,,, she goes to whoever has the most food!!!
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Everybody see just what want to see. You are a gentelman, thanks!
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Women who are that fickle,,, I believe should stay in their own country and rot!!!!
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Yes yes- fickle woman stay, honest will go to your country?!How years are you looking for honest one?Have found? Did see many very good ones?
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In an harmonious and caring relationship, you must have; Honestly, sincerity, loyalty, devotion,,,, and trust!!! Who wants to live, with the threat of doom hanging over his head,,, if she feels neglected one week,,,,, Poof, she’s gone????
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If you are- honestly,sincerity,loyalty,devoution,trust-she won't leave.
"От хороших мужиков не гуляют"(не изменяют им )- i advise you translate it.
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I would rather spend the rest of my life ALONE, than to worry everyday that she could leave at any time without warning!!!
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So do i and everybody
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Ves,,, if you were my girl, I would kick your ass to the curb!!! Go wandering down the streets and try to find someone else in five minutes if you can???? If every man read your letter,,,, I think five years would be more accurate!!!
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How much have you drink?
Спасибо,let's thank our God- we'll never be a couple.I'm not looking for a husband .Relax youself.My letter is a reply to the first message.Thoughts of humiliated by husband's greed.
?If every man read my letter?- Everebody MUST read my letter!!!!!
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Most men here, are getting all of the bills,, and none of the benefits!!
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I see
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Fool me once,,, shame on you!! Fool me twice,,, shame on me!!!
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What is my falt and what is your?
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Women who give their love for gifts or money are called WHORES!!!!
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Durak,,,, I understand your point about neither being fair! If neither loves the other, both should separate.
The woman here clearly had an agenda,,, use him, get what she needs,,, and move on!
Why didn’t she speak up?? I see it in most profiles,, Women want an open man!!! They want to talk to each other about everything!! So why is this one staying silent?? Because,,, she had no intentions of ever staying!!!!
I think women like that should stay where they are!! (FSU)
If all the women were honest, sincere, and genuine,,, at least in their intentions,,, it would be easy to court women properly!! I think I can speak for a few men on this forum, that we would welcome a good “old fashion” courtship!! But times have changed!! The process has become tainted, poisoned! The greed of the women has done this!! Oh sure,,, why not spend many thousands of dollars on each woman,,, years of our lives,, only to find out, that she is only in it for the money!!??
What happened to the,, an honest woman would never ask for money??? Or, an honest woman would never let you pay her way??? I don’t believe in that either,,, and I have never witnessed it!!
Do these women really want a man, who has been picked clean by scamming vultures?? Do they want a fool?? My father has a saying; any dummy can spend money, it takes a smart person to save it! He grew up during the Great depression!
Ves has said in the past, that everyone in the FSU, knows about the women scamming men!! Well,,,, how about some understanding then?????
Does anyone here, now have a clue as to why my search is taking so long???????
Ol' Lard ass Tintin got his head shoved in his ass and run down the road by some Chick from Ukraine. Mr. I know it all, was the biggest bitcher and whiner about getting his ass handed to him because he's a real dumb ass. Truth be known he drools on himself and dates only his two hands.