Has anyone traveled on the Romance tour from Western Europe to Ukraine, or are these tours for American guys only? I have been writing to a bunch of girls at Elenas and Silver-Cafe and they seem not like the idea to meet on the "Romance tours". Please share your experience if you had any good one.
Where a tour group starts from probably doesn’t make any difference, as long as you have the money. With the economy the way it is, it should not matter.
I have not been on any of those tours, but last year here in Kiev, a German group was staying at my hotel for several days,,, but I don’t think it was a romance tour!?
This hotel has their wi fi in the lobby/bar, and on the 13th floor, so I spent a lot of time in the lobby last year!
I’m an German American, but I’m embarrassed to say that German is 4th on my list of languages. I could understand a little of what they were saying,,,, but it was easy to tell that they were having a great time!! The second night, they were drinking beer just like the night before,,,, but they didn’t stay in the lobby/bar for very long?? A pretty girl would walk in and sit by the guys,,, 10-15 minutes later,, the girl and one of the Germans would go upstairs! A few minutes later,,, another girl would walk in,,, and the same thing happened. This went on for 2 hours! I’m sitting there thinking to myself;,,, I’m German too???!! Lol
I don’t remember just what I had been doing online for so long,,, but this was entertaining to watch!! One of the last guys to go upstairs was a big guy!! I mean, he was two of me,,, wide!! The guy and the girl are giggling and he is barely able to walk. She is trying to hold him up,,,, then the girl says; Dah dah??! And the fat German says; Yeah, yeah, yeah! And everyone in the lobby bursts out laughing! You had to be there??!
As for that Silver Café,, I remember something from at least a year ago. Someone else asked about it, so I went and checked it out for myself! In five minutes time (last year), I spotted several scammers, and several “side by side” profiles! This is when a girl starts more than one profile, and isn’t smart enough to wait a few days between them, or uses the same photos. Sometimes they will make a change, like from Alena,, to Alyona,,, to try and cover their tracks. When stuff like that is so easy to spot, it is not a good sign!
"Please share your experience if you had any good one."
It would seem that no one has had any good experiences??
I have been to Ukraine both on my own 3 times and with a tour one time. The tours are great for meeting women. You can quite literally meet 30 women in an evening. What the problem is they will always ask "when are you leaving town?". With the tour it is "day after tomorrow". Why invest time and energy when you are leaving in 1.5 days? Sure you may be back in 6 months but it's a sore point. I have found what works the best is to go to the city where a tour is coming on your own a few days before the tour. You sign up for the social. So when you go and meet 30 women and they ask you how long till you leave, you answer 10 days, or 14 days. Immediately you are someone worth investing time and money with. It will set you apart from all the others
To be the one who stays behind for her, long after the tour leaves town would be a big plus! You must make sure that her only reason to spend time with you,,,, is you?! If she has her own interpreters, or only shops in certain places, or charges you a lot for taxis, then her reasons are most likely dishonest.
It is strange,,, in a country so full of women,, why is it so difficult to find an honest one??
Tours,, here in new zealand we have our own style of tour.
little different, but much the same in many ways.
difference is no money is given until one decides which one or ones you want.
usually we straight out buy our sheep and cows from pens, in lots of a twelve or twenty-four or in the hundreds.
christian,,(dont take offence on my bluntness) why would you ask a girl you are writing to to meet you at a meat market?
do you not understand how anti the average half decent russian-ukraine woman are to these cattle yard set ups(just google it).
treating fellow people with respect seems so lost to some, dont be a part of it.
i would have thought its rather degrading for any girl to be herded into a room to be looked over by desperate men confused with what type of meat on what bone makes a woman.
but theres always the useless mop head bimbo with no brains but tits to serve this purpose yeah:)
dont fall for that nanny holding your hand sh*t Christian(tours) she sounds like someone worth meeting just by her unhappiness to be in such a place.
i'm sure you must have an adventurous backbone since you are looking over theres and at least be half the gentlemen to your possible future wife and meet one on one.
hint,,, always try to treat these girls with a little respect and a bit of dignity, you would be surprised at the results.
then again "she is a agency girl"
Kiwi is right. Many agency girls are scanners. Watch the motivation. If you are paying money per letter it's probably 95% scam. Here I have found many sincere women, a surprisingly high percentage but I'm looking in the 35 to 45 age range. The younger ones seem less sincere. Again kiwi is right don't invite a woman to a social. The women come to them for many reasons. In smaller towns, free drinks, food, and a few actually to meet men. I've met some great women but again recall the age I'm looking in. Just watch the money and you should know when a woman really likes you. It feels the same as it does at home.
It should!! But you know,,,, it doesn't really feel the same over there!
Don't the interpreters treat us, like we've never been on a date before????
They talk down to me,,, and they are half my age! I dated a lot when I was their age,,,, I don't need their advice!!
I've turned over a new leaf this year. When we first meet a translator is ok but if we cant communicate on our own after that using her English and my Russian equivalent to about a 2 year old, I'll date someone else. If a woman really has plans to move to a more comfortable part of the world she should already be learning English. I'm already learning Russian.
Giss, that sounds like a good plan! It doesn’t pay to be a good guy, and wait,,,, and wait,,, for them to take their good old sweet time to learn it. Mean while,,, you are paying for letters or membership.
I have to believe that the agencies discourage the girls from learning English! Doesn’t it make sense to learn the language if you are going to be living there??