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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Ivor's Daily 'successful' life 24/7 Author Post ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2012 11:25:11 AM   You are in denial, Danny. You were scammed for 30K. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2012 11:05:34 PM   smart ass,,, you must pay attention, martin sold his house! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2012 11:44:52 PM   No Rb, she did not have a gun to my head. I was happy to take that girl shopping, because we were suppose to have a future together!!! I was honest and sincere, she was not!! Websites in the US?? I don’t want those websites here! That would be something up danny’s alley!! I meant think about it from the other way around?? If we treated foreign women here,,,,, the way they treat us over there, I think there would be hell to pay! smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2012 11:55:54 PM   " He gave it to Elena's friend to give to give to her. How stupid is that? " Is this true? Martin gave the money to a 3rd person?????????? Wow, that is so stupid. Martin what was going on in your mind? Martin, you set yourself up to lose that much money. You told people on this forum that you were married " and have been for some time ;) " You then set up the website and revealed to THE WHOLE WORLD what had happened and ( my opinion ) how stupid and desperate you were. Now, your in the Philippines, building a resort with 33 air conditioners and still, paying off your mortgage. Something is not adding up. Is this another story Martin? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/21/2012 1:08:44 AM   I feel “for” martin!! Why? Because I know exactly how he feels! I very easily could have become him. I met the girl I’ve wanted in 2009! She was the last girl I met on that trip, if she had been the first, things could have been different. I had a crash course on Russian and FSU honesty by the time I arrived in Lugansk!!!! I planned to meet 5 women in 4 cities, with the 1st city being Tver‘, Russia. I thought she would be the one who I would choose, so I had my flights going through Moscow. The girl I wanted was in Lugansk! I could spend as much time as I wanted in either city, at the end of my trip! I’ve wrote to many women, and met a dozen or so, when you meet the one you want,, and I mean “really want“, everything changes!!! You are willing to do a lot for her, because she is your priority!! When you discover it was all a lie, it hurts more than all the rest combined!!! This special person had become your life!! You think about her all of the time, you eat, sleep, and breathe her 24 hours a day! I am here,,, and she is way over there!! How is she,,,, what is she doing,, did she have a good day at work, did anyone give her problems on the bus or metro,,, and that’s before you have any doubts about her!! Once you start having suspicions,,,,, whoa, the worry is ten fold!! (Dunt,,, if you are reading this,,,, do what you normally do during deep intellectual talk,,,, crawl under your bed, stick one thumb in your mouth and the other in your a$$, and rotate every few minutes!!!) I would not have done the same with martin’s girl, because I find pushy-demanding women a huge turn off! But we all have our own individual tastes! I can understand misreading her, thinking she is being serious, and not just demanding! To the people who are shaking their heads at this right now,,,, perhaps you have never had such deep sincere feelings for a woman?? Are some of the things I do foolish?? Oh,, for sure,, but who doesn’t do foolish things once in a while?? Especially in the name of love!! Do I think martin’s Lena deserves that website??? YES!!! For one,,, it’s like you said Rb, she changed her name, so it does not impact her very much! Another reason is; they are able to operate with almost complete impunity!! Who in Russia or the FSU is going to turn them in??? Those countries are being supported by the scam trade! Ask a taxi driver or a bartender, what he thinks of foreign dating or about the women scamming?? He will just grin! He isn’t going to say one bad word about it, why?? He’s making money on it too!!!! You shouldn’t give money to someone you aren’t married to??? Rb, who are you to talk??? Improvements to “their” apartment?? He can’t stay there all the time, it’s all being hired done, she should be able to handle it, she is the one who is demanding the improvements!! They planned a future together! She took the money and ran!!! There’s a difference between changing your mind, and lying from day one!!!!! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/21/2012 9:07:55 PM   "You shouldn’t give money to someone you aren’t married to??? Rb, who are you to talk??? Improvements to “their” apartment?? He can’t stay there all the time, it’s all being hired done, she should be able to handle it, she is the one who is demanding the improvements!! They planned a future together! She took the money and ran!!!" You better look at what I posted. I said that much money. What I had given is like a blade of grass and Martin gave the whole lawn. That is not an exaggeration. I had not cried about it. I had not regretted it. Others have and continually go after me with it. Who is in charge anyway? Who earned the money? Why would major expenditures not be done together? Why just by one? Married or not, that is how it should be. They will both be living there. Yes, I am also saying do not trust her completely, especially if you are not married. That goes to any woman, FSU or not. How do you know she was lying from day one? Nothing in this world is black and white. Even if she was, anyone can be swayed one way or another. But, Martin gave her all the cards. smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/22/2012 2:01:01 AM   I'm looking at Martin's website, Going by the summary of debt, things started in April 2004 and finished in November 2006. Thats about 2.5 years. Martin, did you give the ferret a run during this time or what? smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/22/2012 2:39:53 AM   Where does it say Martin sold his house? I read, 're mortgage' lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/22/2012 12:48:39 PM   Sa somewhere in the forum,,, months ago. smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/23/2012 1:02:07 AM   " Sa somewhere in the forum,,, months ago." OK, fair enough. I hope Martin is going Ok now. Jesus, it must have TKO'd him when he stopped and had a good look at things. He must have been deeply in love to do what he done. I mean seriously, read the part when they re established their 'relationship' and in about a week or 2 she wants money for the apartment and he digs up the money and sends it! HUH?????? I don't get it Lonelyranger1701, what possess a man to be so blind to the fact he is being taken for a ride?? I'm serious! He's just paid for 5-6 mobile phones and a fur coat and every-fucking-thing-else in between. Have a look at the body langauge of the woman in the photos, she does not want to be so close to Martin. He should have seen this. Check it out and see what you think. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/23/2012 1:39:15 AM   smart a,,,,, how else do women get men to do their bidding? From what I had read, they were together in every way into Nov 2006, that’s over 2.5 years! Martin gave her money for “their” apartment,,,,, why else would they need their own apartment, if they weren‘t getting intimate??? It’s not too far fetched to think of themselves as a married couple,,,, or at least,,,, a couple that is joined at the hip??!! Women from the FSU are capable of anything!! This Lena disappeared for long periods of time, and then turns out to be married to another man!! And then,,,,, she divorces that guy after getting her citizenship??!! OUCH,,, what a woman!!! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/24/2012 12:36:02 AM   They were "together" until Nov 2006? She got married March 2006. They were married for six years LR, so you can't come to the conclusion that she divorced that guy after getting her citizenship. http://forum.fiance.com/forum2.asp?Main=ShowTopic&topicid= 5644&page=10 Smart a, look at the next page to find where he sold his house. A good part of the "debt" came after her marriage. Her husband claims he knew nothing of it. If you look at the website, I don't think Martin believes otherwise. I had mentioned before that Martin gave a good part of the money to her business partner to give to her. Lena might not have gotten that part of the the money at all. Yes, she deserves a website, but worded differently. Leave it this way and it is more destructive to Martin. A lot more. Better yet, take down the website and put it all behind him. smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/24/2012 10:46:37 PM   Thanks ragingbull, I'll check out Martins website again about him selling his house. I must have missed that because there's so much to read and Martin, as usual, tries to write it as a literary genius would. " I had mentioned before that Martin gave a good part of the money to her business partner to give to her. Lena might not have gotten that part of the the money at all " Is it mentioned on Martin's website that he gave most of the money to her business partner? I read on Martin's website where he gave money to Elena to pay off her friends debt. The poor bastard Martin, got bent over a barrel and everyone 'went to town on him' without any KY. Martin should have been more alert when they 're established' their relationship. He cannot blame anyone but himself. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2012 2:56:18 AM   smart a,,, if you have to ask,,, then you have never been that close! Martin and I, both made the mistake of falling for the wrong girl! I exchanged 2,000USD in Kiev for mine, and spent it in four days. I knew it could all be for nothing, and I would do it again. At that time I mean,,,,,, not anymore! We were perfect for each other, but everything in her profile was a lie,,,,, or, she didn’t know it herself. My girl wasn’t demanding like Martin’s,,,, but she didn’t need to be! Every person that I showed our picture to, commented about her eyes!! When I looked into her eyes I just melted! Now that I have put my search on hold,, guess who I think about all day??? Bought 4 or 5 phones?? I gave my girl 5,500UKR at the airport, and told her to buy an internet connection!!! What did she do with that money??? I do not know! lol smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2012 9:44:58 PM   " smart a,,, if you have to ask,,, then you have never been that close " I maybe silly but I'm not that stupid. Any man who travels into FSU countries chasing relationships must have a little bit of an idea that most of it is bullshit. I guess you and I and every other man gives people the benefit of the doubt sometime, right? If I had gone through what Martin did, I wouldn't be on a forum telling everyone that I'm married and have been for some time.....whilst pissing people off. Jesus, it must have affected Martin that much that he lied to people on the forum, who ( in my opinion ) would have been sympathetic to him if he told the truth up front. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/26/2012 11:34:40 AM   "I knew it could all be for nothing, and I would do it again." LR, if you knew it could be all for nothing and would do it again, why are you bitter? Or are you? Smart a, then he has the nerve to call others liars, not just me. That name he is using is because he cannot or will not answer his accusations that I have lied about him. smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/26/2012 6:23:27 PM   2004 - The Story Begins " Well this story begins in early 2004, I had travelled to Ukraine for some 9 days, met with Lena, we went out for an evening meal together, things went well and we occupied some 6 days together. Lena had, after 3 days, made the first 'big' move on me, which I enjoyed, and we agreed, towards the end of that period, that we would continue seeing each other. " Martin, what was the first 'big' move that happened to you? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/27/2012 1:57:55 AM   smart a,, they are such good liars!! You can be looking into her eyes rubbing noses, she can tell a lie with a smile on her face!!!! Or a serious look! smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/27/2012 8:42:32 PM   " My girl wasn’t demanding like Martin’s,,,, but she didn’t need to be! Every person that I showed our picture to, commented about her eyes!! When I looked into her eyes I just melted! Now that I have put my search on hold,, guess who I think about all day??? " What's the age difference lonelyranger1701? Is she listed on any sites? Cheers! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/28/2012 2:21:07 AM   Dating sites, or scammer sites??? Neither! 22 years Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Ivor's Daily 'successful' life 24/7
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