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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > To pay, or not to pay, that is the question.( or what to do when a girl's agency suggests you to pay for correspondence) Author Post Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 1:03:37 PM   Hello everybody. I decided to create this new topic since this question was asked a nubmer of times during the previous discussions. Some of you are coresponding with ladies, listed on www.fiance.com as "using agency's e-mail". And some of you may have already received offers from those local agencies to pay for girl's correspondence(translations etc). First of all let me explain how it works. Fiance.com doesnt translates your messages to ladies.They are forwarded to local agencies' accounts the way we get those from you. They have to take care of translation themselves, as well as to translate girl's response that you receive later.Usually the girls have to cover the translation costs themselves.Thats good in some way, because if the girl is not serious, she will not continue a correspondence(local agencies are not interested to continue forwarding her messages if they are not getpaid for this-this is for those, who suspects that some people will send them letters instead of ladies.Beleive me, noone would do that, thats too much job that is not paid for). At the same time membership system gives them oportunity to get lots of messages and have better chances for choice. We do not allow agencies ask our customers to pay for correspondence of their ladies. But in the same time we do not mind if a customer prefers to use their servives directly.Thats his choice-to use fiance.com or use their services. The only condition here-if the local agency takes money from fiance .com customer for correspondence with their lady, this lady should be immediately removed from the site. This is what all of you need to keep in mind when local agency sends you a price list. You have two options -accept their services and request to remove this lady from www.fiance.com ( thats some sort of a guarantee that she is not asking other men to pay for her while she is listed here ) -or just inform the agency that you prefer fiance.com until you are not sure how things will work between you and this lady. What local agencies cant do-they cant tell you that they are thre only bridge between yiou and lady and that you have to choose between joining them or getting a decline from this lady. In this case the local agency violate our contract rules, according to it if they are placing their lady on fiance.com page they ARE RSPONSIBLE for forwarding her all correspondence received for her. If not-we stop cooperation with them and remove their ladies from our pages. So, always remember that what you get from girl's agencies is just an offer. Its always up to you to accept it or not, but better you do not be in a hurry to pay your money very quickly. First get sure that the girl is really worth it and she already proved this by putting her own efforts into keeping your correspondence alive. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 3:08:34 PM   Mine has Olga, thats why I wanted to ask your opinion about this matter before I sent them any money at all. The agency has offered their services to me only at the end of last week, after my getting about 25 letters from this lady, so until now, as you have quite rightly said, the lady has been paying for the translation costs herself, this is the part I do not fine acceptable, and as I am in a position to be able to pay these rather low prices I have no objection to doing so provided it did not go against fiance.coms rules regarding agency behaviour. I did feel it might not be a wrong thing for them to do, as you say, someone must pay them for their hard work, and so far I knew it was not me who was paying so it must have been my lady. Thank you for clearing this up for me. kind regards Tim vic L. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2004 11:37:04 PM   in my case the local agency insisted that I pay them for the lady's personal info (address ect... which i never asked for) and the only way I could continue to correspond with the lady is directly through there agency which they insisted. The lady's profile is now out of fiance.com data base. I then contacted the other agency inquiring about the lady and was on met with their demands of payment for further correspondence and service which I declined. but this morning I receive a letter from the lady or someone claiming to be the lady. The letter was sent from the local agency so I am rather confused all this. I did respond to the letter by explaining to the lady what had happen and that she should try to register with fiance.com--that was by suggestion of on line live help. I would greatly appreciate some feed back from you OLga Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/2/2004 12:25:06 AM   I guess the person on a live help didn't quite understand the situation. If you pay the local agency for the contact with the lady -this agency should provide you the further correspondence and we cant keep her profile on the site any more. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/2/2004 3:49:31 AM   The agency I have talked about have neither refused to continue with things the way they are nor made any threats to stop my contact with my lady, also when I asked for my ladies address (in a letter I wrote to her a few weeks ago) it was in her very next email, along with her home phone number, and no mention of charge or witholding for any reason was mentioned whatsoever. There are some good ones out there (agencies I refer to) but I think maybe you have found one of the naughty ones Vic !!! The problem you have now, is how do you find out if its the lady writing, or the agency with a view to talkingh you round and into paying ? Tim wobbly1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2004 9:16:16 AM   wouldn't mind knowing which agency that was please Tim? i am in a similar position, all seems okay, but there is always leeway for doing a few descreet checks TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2004 12:59:35 PM   Queen of Hearts, Omsk, mate Tim wobbly1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2004 4:02:48 PM   cheers mate, fortunately it's not the same one, at least there,s another test past TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2004 5:03:54 PM   Actually, its Unfortunatly, the one I refer to are very good and helpful, I hope yours will turn out as good :o)) Best of luck Tim tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2004 5:56:46 PM   I havewn't been sked to pay for anything yet, however I do find anastasia.com stink, did87 women really find my profile interesting with no picyure, me thinks not.:_) tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2004 5:57:37 PM   I must stop this late night drinking, looks like I am dyslexic TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2004 7:42:10 PM   Hmmmm lots of mixed reports about Anastasia.com. Haven't had anything to do with them personally, but I have heard many conflicting feelings about them. Anyway mate, 12 replies out of what was it 85 ? Not bad at all !!! Its unlikely you will be asked to pay anything for a few weeks (not by legit agencies anyway) Usually it is not until you have formed a good writing relationship with a particular lady before the good agencies approach you to help. They realise that sometimes it can take a few weeks to find out if the person you are writing to (and that works both ways, sometimes the ladies blow out the men) is really what you are looking for, so the Good agencies respect this period of getting acquainted and do not start asking you for any money initially. But and its a BIG BUT, bear in mind that after a month, if you have been getting on really well with a lady, and you Know she is with an agency, and her English level is under 5, bet on it, no, even count on it, that you will be asked (politely by the good agencies) if you would be willing to help the lady with the cost of writing. Also keep in mind that this is one month down the road, you have sent her what ? 20 > 25 letters, and she has sent you maybe 18 > 20 possibly more, thats cost her about $50 in translation charges and sending emails, so if she is that committed then its time for you to help her out, unless you are so tight you squeak when you walk !!! $100 is only about £55 to £60 at the moment, thats enough to cover your letters (hers to you and yours to her) for over a month, if by then things are going great, you wont mind another $100, if things are not good you move on or have moved on already by the time the money runs out, but if things are going really well then you pay another $100 and hope that it will last until you go to visit her asap :o))) Thats a hint guys !!! the longer you leave going to meet her, the more likely someone else will or she will think you are wasting her time and blow You out !!! She is on this (or any other ) site to find a good man, one who will come and see her and build a relationship with her, she isn't looking for an indefinite penfriend !! These ladies are NOT desperate to find a man, or to marry one either, they can still afford to be choosy, but it is well known that many ladies will marry the first man they do actually meet, (provided he isn't an asshole of course !!) Russian women like strong decisive men, men who are sincere and committed to what they start. Russian men are strong in character but unfortunately they are not family orientated or in many cases romantic, loving and above all faithful, the parts the ladies do want in addition to strength and commitment from their man but cannot find in their own country. Visiting her is a Very large part of what a Russian woman will expect from you and admire you when you do it. f you go to see her first, then her interest will be on you, any other possibles will pale against your efforts to woo her. Russian women lack romance, and being wooed, they want it, like any woman they need it, and if you can deliver, it will be very appreciated, so what are you waiting for ? GET ON WITH IT !! ;o)) Tim crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/8/2004 8:55:53 PM   What you say all makes sense to me. I would have liked to have gone there sooner. My favorite girl wanted me to wait a few more months until she can get her vacation from work. So I agreed and she really seems to be happy that I will wait for her. She wants to be able to spend more than just a few days with me. Hopefully everything will be ok. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2004 4:36:02 AM   The lady you speak of crash, sounds to be an exception to the rule, of course there will be many of htese among so many women :o)) I hope all goes well for you too mate :o)) wobbly1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2004 5:53:57 AM   the problem is to me, that if they ask you to hold on, it could also be a ploy to keep more letters coming in, or that they have arranged meetings with others, unbeknown to you. They could also be genuine, but i think that if they are considering leaving anyway, i mean really considering, would they be so interested in their job. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2004 5:59:35 AM   Off this topic but it's the top-of-the-list now: - Anybody know about any relevant websites in Moldova, plain tourism included? - Anybody has some contacts for an appartment there? If so pls let me know? Thks crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2004 10:09:28 AM   yes your rite Wobbly. Who knows what the situation will be until I go. I would hope I am the only man but I cannot ask her to not talk or meet anyone. I haven't met her in person and I don't think it would be rite to try and be possesive like that. What would she think if she knew I was meeting with 2 other girls if things don't work out between us. Now if we click, I'm going to tell her about those other girls and if she can forgive me that will be the ultimate test. Same goes for me I would think. As for her job, she has no choice wobbly. She has no one to support her. She works to survive, and I respect that very much. She is alone. We both know (her and I) she can get a man if she wanted, we already discussed that deeply between eachother. Same goes for me, I can get some one here where I live. The thing is we both are very unsatisfied with the opposite sex where we both live. She has been screwed over and so have I, more than once. I also know as well as she does that nothing can be decided until we meet face to face. We dont express that we love eachother yet because how could we, we havent touched yet. We are taking things one step at a time and we are both trying to be smart about all this. We both know that we are mutually fascinated by each other, we like eachothers photos. Between the both of us we have probably exchanged over a hundred photos. We talk on the phone, we have even sent little mpeg clips, where we can communicate small 20 to 30 second messages. Just alot of things we do that really make me think she is for real. Plus the fact she can express herself to me like no other woman I have ever met. As for her agency, sure I can understand the things you bring up. Believe me that crossed my mind many times. One time early in our friendship we developed some doubts about our friendship. I communicated this to the agency and they told me if I had any doubts I should stop now, send a last latter and they would refund all my money. Well, I didn't want to do that because I cared for her already. Turned out she felt the same for me and the agency helped us to realize the doubts we had were because of the huge distance that seperates us. I like the agency I am at now and they are very nice to me. They are very professional and the service they have provided me with I am satisfied with. This is the chance I take. I am hoping everything is for real. Without taking chances in life there is no success. I am willing to do it. Belive me i"m nervous about it. All I hear are negative things from my friends and family. My mother and father really thought I have lost it. Some of my friends are quiet about it and others think its the funniest thing they have ever heard of. Believe me this is not accepted where I live. Its hard to keep a positive attitude towards all this and it is wearing on me as the date of my departure gets closer and closer. In all my past relationships I have NEVER been married. Some realationships have lasted years and ended because I wouldn't tie the knot. Now I am going to meet a woman I've never touched yet, possibly bring her here and in three months of being here I have to marry her. I'm very nervous about it all but what am I going to do be unhappy all my life because I can't find anyone I like, or be able to say at least i tried. I hope I met the woman of my dreams and I'm going to roll the dice to see if I'm rite. Sorry for the long story but I had to get a few things off my chest. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2004 1:52:10 PM   Well said Crash. wobbly1, I just want to comment briefly on your comments re: the "Job" issue. If a woman from another world told you she was prepared to fly to you, meet you and marry you, that she was secure financially (for the purpose of this idea you don't have a pot to p*ss in !!) Would you risk losing your only means of income (your job) and take extra time off when your annual leave is not permitted for 2, 3 months from now, with the very real risk that this lady could arrive, take one look at you face to face, Scream and jump on the next plane out of there ? Never to be seen again !!! I doubt you would, so why would any sensible, careful, educated and down to earth Russian lady do any different than you ? These ladies are not looking for a plane ride out and a meal ticket, for which they will throw away what they have on the promise of a man they have never even laid eyes upon face to face !!!! Of course she would want to defend her job !!! She might need to stay at her job for another few years, if one of us goes there and decides we don't like her after all. It could easily happen, that she took time off and has lost her job because of one of us would really mess up her life !! Check out my thread, "Who is scamming who ?" Some of these ladies get many promises of men coming to see them, even told they are loved, and that the man wants to marry them, which never amount to a damn thing because the man is not sincere. If you think any woman will drop everything she has in the world on the promise of a man from another country she has never met, Im afraid you are going to be very dissapointed. Please do not expect these ladies to do anything which you yourself would not do. Tim TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2004 1:53:31 PM   OK !! I know, that wasnt all that "brief "!! But I type fast and once I get on a roll Im of and running with no brakes ;o))) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/9/2004 1:56:33 PM   Last word about this matter from me, Jobs in the FSU are very hard to find, good ones even harder, No-one and I mean No-one would risk losing even a fairly good job on a promise form a starnger. There are always plenty of people lined up for all jobs there, as soon as an employee steps out of line they are replaced tuit sweet !!! Its really really not like the West there !!! There are No employment lawas to speak of, and if your face doesnt fit then you are gone !! Oh and if your bosses best friends girlfriend wants your job, you are unemployed !!!! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > To pay, or not to pay, that is the question.( or what to do when a girl's agency suggests you to pay for correspondence)
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