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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Warning signs - Tales of past woe with the "ex" Author Post apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/9/2012 7:08:27 PM   I've seen a few posts about some of you guys who married someone and then had a severe break-up. I was wondering if you had seen any warning signs (red flags) that you may have ignored that if you had seen and acted upon would have saved you from entering into the relationship or getting out when the getting was good. I have had a few red flags in my own current relations, but in the end they weren't what I thought they were. A few yellow flags remain, but still proceeding with my own relationship due to trust and loyalty and my fiance's serious intentions to marry. That and her entire family and all her close friends knowing and approving of the relationship. I just don't want to ignore some flag and end up devastated myself. bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/9/2012 8:14:19 PM   apal1 there are no guarantees in life we all do the best we can with what life experiences we have. I have an ex but would not have traded the experience for anything. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2012 4:16:50 AM   Meeting someone in Thailand is a warning sign??? I think so too!! kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/10/2012 11:36:36 AM   hey Apal, its been a while since you have been here,,, i wondered if you had carried on with this. seems you did more then most and really got stuck into ukraine,, somehow it doesnt surprise me. i think the trick to any perfect relationship is your minds are synchronized along the same line of things. city girl+country boy=hard work=very low success rate type of thing. but hey, anything rushed has to be the common denominator of disaster apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2012 2:47:47 AM   Kiwi - Hi. Yes, I dropped out for a while, and then began working with a software consulting firm last year in Kharkiv. I didn't like the agency girls there (lots and lots of scam agencies in Kharkiv/Kharkov). I ended up with a reputation there for meeting and dumping each agency girl I met. Girls began to fear meeting me. Happens when you linger in an agency town like that. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2012 2:56:18 AM   I created this thread because I don't want to ignore some of the flags I see in my own relationship and end up married and shortly after divorced. But just as bow said - there are no guarantees (success or failure). My flags turned out to be just my girl's inexperience and (not so bright) intellect. Heh, I remember meeting her mother and her own mother saying her daughter had wind in the brain (air head). ;) But she is an extremely lovely creature. She says she is in love with me and says this even around her best friends, who just smile at us and tell us that we are the beautiful couple. I care about her for sure. Is it all perfect? Nope. We have broken up about 4 times before we were engaged and still have quarrels. Each difficulty was overcome, but I still have my own doubts. It is not easy to create real relations of any kind with an FSU girl for sure. It is not something I recommend for someone who is just casually considering it. The scams, the games, the insincerity, and all the rest... just to find the one girl you want? But in the end, if it does work out? All those problems would be worth it and all the money and time and emotional turmoil and aggravation I had to endure would no longer bother me. Unlike the other guys who were in the forums and just pounce on every guy with a wish or dream or desire to meet an FSU girl, I suffered a lot of hard knocks and war stories of my own, but I didn't give up. I did find the one in a million (for me). But its still not a bed of roses. My only fear is ignoring an issue and it being the one that got me good. But that is a fear I must face on my own... apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2012 3:01:41 AM   Oh and if you want to see our photos they are at HRB... http://www.hotrussianbrides.com/pub/testimonials.aspx mark and ekaterina... No photoshop, she is an extremely beautiful girl. kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2012 3:57:24 AM   Apal, yes she is seriously beautiful, look good together to durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2012 7:14:02 AM   Well, some of the men have experienced the full nightmare, including a couple of years ago "Land of Oz" who has always seemed to me a complete gentleman. It's a frightening prospect, that should give any sensible person pause. Mark, your Katya is a genuine Ukrainian doll ... but as one of the grizzled old men of the forum (there's more than a few of us), I was also struck by how young YOU look to be. Way before your time, when I was a lad, there was a song that played very much on the radio for a while. I didn't pay much attention to it at the time, but when I heard it as an "oldie" many years later, I thought, "wow, this is so much more adult than the usual subjects of pop music." http://www.elyrics.net/read/y/young-rascals-lyrics/how-can-i-be -sure-lyrics.html Udachi Vam! apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/11/2012 5:20:55 PM   Durak - Wow, those lyrics are to the point for sure. I can relate! Yes. Katusha is an amazing wonder. I never encountered a girl like her in my entire life nor read a book nor seen a movie of a girl like her. She belongs in a work of fiction. Untouched, no previous relationship, no previous boyfriend, nevre dated, never kissed a boy, let alone never had a lover. She talks with a soft voice. Has a body that had a habit of making men stare. It is not unusual for complete strangers to come tell me how beautiful she is. Even in a city filled with amazing beautiful girls like Odessa. Would is surprise you that when we went to Thailand on Valentines Day this year that a huge line of Asians we had to walk past, just stopped and stared at her? Women tend to stare at her more than men, I mean stare stare, open eyes and mouth open too. It does take a lot of confidence to walk hand-in-hand with a beauty like Katya into a dance club or bar. Sometimes as I mentioned in other threads, it does annoy to see local Ukraine men drool and stare at her when she is doing her thing on the dance floor while I am dancing with one of her other very pretty young girlfriends. I am also very fortunate her very best friends adore me and know I am the good guy and real gentleman. Its a year into our relations, not all perfect, we have issues about relationship things. Mainly because she is as I said, very inexperienced in dealing with any male-female relations, and not the quickest study, but I am patient because I truly adore her beyond measure, so that helps. Plus she had to get permission from her family to proceed, and we waited for a first kiss only during my wedding proposal... which was supposed to be a romantic trip to Rome on New Years Day, but couldn't due to her Visa not being ready in time. (she procrastinated too long and caused a quarrel because I pre-paid, non-refundable travel at a 5-star Rome hotel). So we opted for a less-romantic but very intense and private wedding proposal on New Years at the hotel restaurant where I like to stay. ;0 Yet, regardless, I am blessed we are proceeding to marriage stage and past all the introductory, getting to know each other... learn if we should even try to create a relationship stage and the infamous "are you for real or a schemer.scammer?" sorts of stages. What she lacks in experience, she makes up for with sincerity. Never one time has my girl ever lie to me (not even a white lie!). That alone is as rare as it gets in this world, and why I myself decided to try Ukraine to find a wife (not just a girlfriend for fun and games). But why I put up this thread wasn't at all to brag about this. Actually I do worry. Still worry. Because I have seen strong, vibrant, full-of-life men, become shells of their former self, becoming the devastated man by marrying the wrong woman. So I knew I was heading in that same direction if I broke down and married a local Western woman. That is why I myself turned to the agencies. I needed someone exceptional and always sincere with me. Finding sincerity in the Ukraine agencies was very rare, but it is equally difficult for the women there too. I can't stand lies at all. I do not tolerate them at all, even from friends. It is why I do not lie. In this regards me and Kate are very much soul mates. I have never once ever lied to her or broken a promise to her. That is what makes a man a real man in my own opinion. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 4:27:02 PM   It is unfortunate that still men experience the full on nightmare of the agency system. I know the intense pain that occurs too. My own first 3 visits to Ukraine were filled with hope, expectation and serious disappointment to top off the large amount of wasted time and money spent. It took me a while to really scrutinize my technique. I thought I would have no problems meeting someone. But it was not easy. My technique that led to my eventually success? Write a girl, test her sincerity. If she begins to write about impersonal natures and never answers a question? Red Flag. If she seems to write in generalities a lot? Steer clear, that is sign its an agency made letter. On HRB and some of the other sites, I ask harder questions regarding compatibility. If a girl doesn't answer or answer something I deem very compatible to my personality? I leave and don't write again. I don't like Anastasia or dream-marriage websites, due to the large amount of scam artists on those sites. But I did meet some sincere girls from there, but mainly very photoshopped versions of their online personas... aka average good-looks, nothing special that would grab your attention if you saw them walking down the street, versus their bikini-clad, photoshop enhanced websites photos. I think the key to my last success was not to tolerate any diviance from sincerity. It was the most successful tactic. I asked direct questions if a girl was attracted to me or not. What did their previous ex-boyfriend look like. That will give you a good indicator of success. A lot of the very beautiful girls I had chatted with honestly told me their previous ex were bodybuilders, rugged, very young and handsome guys who's only fault was cheating on them. Can you see yourself taking that role? 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