I've just made my first phone call to Russia and spoke for an hour without an interpretor with one of my favourite women. I used TeleDiscount for the call from the UK which works out at 4p/min which is virtually nothing if you're looking for a cost effective phone carrier. (28 digits to call direct!)
I have a preference for women who are at least able to understand English pretty well and articulate enough to express themselves. It's very early days and she's likely spoilt to death by admirers but it was really good and fun call that I just had to write my first experience here. I don't think it could have gone any better with both personalities shining through. Well it could, eh Tim ;-)
I learned how to say the Russian for 'I love You' and 'Goodnight'. What a co-incidence that I should learn them first. lol
btw: If you're new to this like me, Women's Day seems to be quite a big thing.
Take mothers day, your mums birthday, Christmas and Easter, add them together and times by two and you are almost talking of a day as important as Womans day mate !!
Its absolutly vital, if you have been communicating with any lady more than the past 2 weeks, that you do at least something for Womans day for her !!
If you really are interested in your lady, and you dont do somnething special for her on this day, you might as well kiss her goodbye right now !!!
Im really not kidding guys, any woman who doesnt get spoiled by her man ( YOU) on this day is going to be very upset and possibly even angry !!!
So stop being tight, get that credit card out of your pocket and use it !!!
Hey Tim, I send my girls flowers alot. For their birthdays, christmas, valentines, new years. They got flowers every time. Do you think if I just send them flowers again it will be enough? Im not sure if they will be hoping for more than just flowers for this day. Olga, anyone with experience with Russian girls please advise.
I've already done as you mentioned.
- more expensive than stated in the gifts section but it has been done for one girl today. It's just as well I won over $900 at poker in the last 24 hrs!
As you say, the strength and importance of this day should not be overlooked which I am now acutely aware of without hindsight.
I have a handful of favourites that I have been writing to but as you've read in my other thread, I have now lost two of them as they declined to offer contact details and stop writing which seemed really weird. Or not so weird, giving that I suspected that half of my letters seem to be 'interferred' with, written and likely sent without permission by agencies. Whatever the real reason, it has been enough to make me suspicious and act.
Sending presents willy nilly just because you get a letter would have been a mistake IMO in these cases, so some common sense is required. Minimum of contact details + telephone number or call = present :) Those that don't reply in time with details, only have themselves to blame.
I wouldn't worry about the no shows mate,
if they don't give you their home address and telephone number, then they cannot realistically expect to get anything for Womans Day can they !!!
I was really chuffed when I asked for my girls address after only 2 weeks of writing (knowing she was with an agency) and it came in her very next letter, with her phone number too as an added free bonus !! :o))
At least its a great yardstick for measuring the sincere ones from the players :o))
"Address and telephone number please?" "No reply, or evasive answer"
"Goodbye, have a nice life ................. Next" :o))
flowers and chocs are the default choice.
I'm a sucker for chocs too, ice-cream and wine can also make me easy game :)
So I am going to get 10 boxes in return? Nice one!
Russian women really are too kind when I'd just settle for a kiss. ;)
This is all still very new to me, so shared experiences of how others have developed their relationships are always great to read and moreso the pitfalls. I just think that on this women's day not discounting other occasions that some girls must be getting swamped by presents from admirers and competition is fierce which is why I am happy enough today to have made my first call and let some personality shine through from both of us and make her giggle and smile.
No mate, you will get only one "box" but that one is worth ten times the one you will send her, and if you teart her right you will be enjoying that same box for the rest of your life ;o))
For crashnsplash.
It doesnt matters much what kind of gift is it. The most important that you show your attention to lady on this day, show her that you know about her country's tradition.So it can be just anything, any gift that goes from your heart.
Flowers is a traditional way to do it and this is something all ladies will most likely appreciate. When you will know the lady close enough , you can think of more personal gifts, like perfume or something like that.
When I saw the title for this thread - I thought I was going to learn a useful skill - standing outside and making sounds with my mouth or blowing through my hands or something.
lol@jet
...but unless you've tried it, how do you know it wouldn't work?
I think there's a lot of merit in putting your hands around it and blowing :) (no Tim, stoppit)
The post was just to say how nice it was to have made the first call. The second follow up call the next day was bad. She wasn't home, mum picked up the phone likely speaking/understanding little English, said "nyet" and promptly put the phone down! hmmm but then what do you expect from a potential mother-in-law? lol
dma: The response you received from your potential mother-in-law (saying "nyet" and just hanging up the phone) is typical. I've had it happen to me and I've read that many westerners fee disconcerted when it happens to them. Russina "telephone manners" are different than ours.
But if you think about it - Do ours make any more sense? What do we typically do when a person who obviously speaks only a foreign language calls?
Typically we repeat "Hello.... HELLO...?" More slowly and loadly (as if that makes any sense.)
Maybe we'll say (again slowly and loudly) "I ONLY SPEAK ENGLISH...." (Which should be readily apperent by now.)
Followed by a loud, clear. "GOODBYE" (Because it is always proper to formally and politely end a conversation in which two people have absolutely no idea what the other is saying.) And then you hang up.
Seems the Russian way ("Nyet"...click)... saves time.
Thanks jet. Pending a letter and explanation from the girl in the coming week that's the way I assumed it and didn't take it personally - it's easy to get it out of context. I've suggested that we think of some means of being a bit more 'polite' even if it's just a rehearsed line from 'mom', so I know what's going on.
What was a bit strange that day too is that I got a letter from the girl before hand during the day when she was supposed to be in another city with friends! having read the letter, there was little that mentioned the call the day before or call that evening and seemed less personal lacking detail and was fairly generic; I can only think that the agency was sticking it's nose in!!! sheesh - is it ever straight forward?
Some things are just odd but I'll just have to wait till I get an explanation...
dma: Glad to hear that you don't intend to take the "nyet..click" thing personally. It is just the way they do things. One of my Moldovans taught her mother to say "She's not here." when a foreign man called. It might seem reassuring and polite - but it made me wonder at the time just how many English speaking men have called her (or called on her) if you get my drift. Anything considered too long and with TOO much scrutiny, one can be suspicious of.
I can't help you much with the letter writing situation - I tried to avoid the potential pitfalls by going to the FSU directly and meeting my ladies directly for the first time, face to face. I realize that there are inherent risks using that method as well, and that it is expensive and therefore not for everyone. But its the method I chose. The jury is still out as to whether or not I made the right decision. Continuing details will be made available following my visit to Moldova in April. Should be interesting - at least.
I am just now starting a little letter writing. I will be in Moldova for a while, and not one to put all my eggs in one (or two) basket(s) I want to have other women available who I can contact should the need arise. (I hope that the problem doesn't come up.)