I would like to know why you are looking for a foreign bride (Russian, Ucrainian or whatever she will be).
I think most of you are from USA, well I'm from Italy and, just to start, I'm looking for dating website mainly because I'm tired of European girl that start to has partner at 14 y.o. and so on so I'm needing matchmacking...tired to meet girls around the city, spend months with them, starting feelings and then understand that anyway is not matching my wish.
Other than this it seems that the only marriage agency are from east Europe or south America but well...
So I was wondering...what are you looking for that you can't find in your country?
And well, I saw a lot of beautifull American's girl so ...
 About women starting to have a partner at 14 years old, this seems to be about as common in the former Soviet countries, as it is in the USA or other parts of Europe -- that is, for those FSU women who reached their teens AFTER the fall of the Soviet Union (the under 35s, roughly speaking).
 To your big question, what I'm looking for that I don't find at home: I certainly can't speak for other men, my answer is very specific to me. I'm over 50, and have been hoping to find a woman young enough to have good chances for a healthy pregnancy. This means a big age difference. While most FSU women prefer men close to their age -- like women from any European culture -- there seems to be a small percentage who are willing to seriously consider men who are a good deal older (NOT including the scammers & jokers who claim not to care about age at all).
I believe there are more women who are sincerely willing to meet an older man, because there are not enough local men suitable for marriage, for FSU women who are over 30, mothers, or both. This "availability of good FSU husbands" question has been discussed a lot on this forum, and been the subject of much disagreement.
In my opinion, there are matters of health, drug abuse, cultural practices or traditions, economic opportunity and crime and imprisonment, that are all part of the "availability problem."
Whatever the objective facts are, I personally know women in Ukraine (two attractive single women in their early 30s, each with a small son) who became convinced that they had no hope of finding a Ukrainian husband.
So the logic is, women who have become so discouraged, are open to consider trying unusual possibilities.
Durak,,,, the post you wrote speaks good enough for me, Iím in the same predicament!! Iím not 50yr yet, but I might want to have more than one child, so I set the ceiling age at 35. What age have you determined to be the max??
My experience with marriage agencies has been an awful one. I have been lied to in every city. Every word,,, no matter what form of communication it was in, email, agency letter, fax, phone, has been a lie! It is ďbait and switchĒ in almost every city. They use the younger ones to bait us to their city, then try to pawn an older woman with children on us.
My last trip was no different, ďYour girl can not meet with you tonight,,, would you like to meet another woman??Ē lol No!! ďMaybe if you wrote to your girl she will come??Ē lol No!! Iím here,,,, what more does she need to know???
I had dinner with my interpreter, on what was supposed to be my last night in her town,( last night,, plan B) and she tries to change my mind on older women,,, and women with children. She basically talked down to me,,, almost scolding me for not being willing to consider a woman with a child. Realizing,,,,, because I said so,, isnít a good enough reason for her, I told her flat out what the reason was! She then agreed with me,,,, and a few moments later, looked to a table behind me, and to my right,,, and shook her head,,,,, No! There were 4 middle aged (35 to 45) women at that table,,,, and two half eaten pizzas,,, one veggie pizza and one meat lovers type left behind about five minutes later. I try to stay fully aware of my environment while out and about in FSU!!
Although,, itís our money that fuels everything that happens around these agencies,,, they do not serve us! They serve themselves,,, then the girls. In a way, they are trying to look out for the most needy in their city,,,, the women with children! Any guy who would be willing to sponsor a woman and her children, has a better chance of finding someone.
If I just wanted to find a good woman to live out the rest of my years with,,, I would, in no way, shape or form,,, go looking in the FSU! Too much of a hassle and far too many trust issues to deal with! Plus, Iíve been through the process with a foreign wife from Russia,,, and I was not impressed!
Kiwinorth I guess world of men are all lured to FSU. We all let little head think for big head. Am on way to Russia in about week and half Spending time with my lady and her family at home. Am thinking will be fun.
can hardly wait. Her family is very excited I will spend time with them. So looking forward to great trip
thanxs for words danny as I have said have spend many a hour on skype talking with her. Her family and friends know this. My family and friends know as well. I must say we have become a large part of each others lives. She has alway been everything she says she is and much more. Plan on being on best behavior while I am there, and in future. Anyway our future is in our hands. I think world of her. When we first met was not just a meeting at restraunt we spent almost whole month together. This visit I am so excited, My lady always brightens day. I will be sure to treat her like rarest treasure. She is money consious When we
toured around Kiev. When we first met was all on buses and Metro, yes I offered taxi many times, truth all the things she did just made me like her that much more. I hope that I get to live this dream you say. I can actually see it.
Dunt,,, you have no time to waste on me, if you plan on claiming that baby as your own!!
The mental defects are easy to achieve,,,, lots of lead, CO, smoking and drinking should cover that! But the genetic defects are more difficult! You might need to attach a prosthetic tail?! Cranial ridges can be done cosmetically, as well as a few scales.
Danny,,, how long were you shook each day as a child??? Iím thinking at least 30 minutes each day. Once you were too big for your parents to shake,, did they attach a paint can shaker on your head and let you run around the yard on a 100ft cord???
You do want the baby to turn out just like you,,,,, donít you???
And then there is a dunt who wastes his time attacking others, when he should be worried about his own family!
Having lost so much in his life,,,, two women who were close to him, and two unborn babies,,, youíd think his priorities would change??!!
Dunt,,, do you think anybody took my last post seriously?? While Iím sure about you having multiple mental defects, and an awful childhood, no one is going to treat their child, like the way I described your childhood.
Dunt,,, whatís more important to you??? Forum or family???
I think the reason or reasons vary depending on each persons view. One big reason for me was a lack of commitment to a relationship. I also think a lot of women here have no clue what it is to be feminine.
Thanks, bowhunter, for an on-topic post -- bow is one of the gentlemen who doesn't clutter the forum with bickering.
As to lonelyranger, I wish you would stop adding to the bickering -- but to respond to your question, I have thought that the "perfect age" would be about 34, but I decided that years ago, so the already large age gap I was considering (16 years) would by now have grown to 20 years.
Different men have different ideas about this, but I think it's pretty much commonsense that a large difference in ages increases the risk of eventual breakup, and 15 years is pushing the limit. Another consideration, is that (leaving out the scammers and jokers who claim not to care about age), women over 30 often will accept less of an age difference, than some of the younger girls will. Perhaps in part, this is because they have more sober ideas about how we change over the years. Anyway, it's relatively rare for a woman 30-35 to be willing to meet a man in his mid 50s.
As to medical considerations, in the USA all pregnancies in women 35 or older are now classified as "high risk." The likelihood of serious genetic problems (Down syndrome etc.) increases sharply with a woman's age past 35. And although once in a while women in their 50s become pregnant, many American women who "decided to wait" are devastated to learn that even though they are healthy and young-looking, the "sands ran out" earlier than they expected: the changes in a woman's physiology can render her unable to produce fertile eggs while she is still in her 30s. But having said all that, the outlook in general is better for women who have already borne a child: they have less complications with pregnancy later in life. But the peak of fertility is close to age 20: that's what makes women that age so instinctively exciting, after all.
Yet ANOTHER thing to think about, notwithstanding how quickly it all went for Danny (my best wishes to the expectant parents!) is that the process of courting, making the commitment, dealing with immigration and settling down can easily take a couple of years. So her age now, isn't the age at which she would be giving birth: add 2 or 3 years for that.
In my mind, it's all a bit of a balancing act. I just met a gal of 37; I can see her years in the texture of her skin, and it's easy to see that she colors her graying hair.
Durak,,, thanks for saying that I am only adding to the bickering!
You and I, and perhaps a few others, are concerned about the health and welfare of others. When we seriously consider the age of our possible mate, and the child that could be a result of that joining, we are looking out for the wellbeing of people who do not exist yet.
On the other hand, we have a DUNT who lost so much,,, most likely from stupidity,,, and hasnít learned a thing yet!!
My post about removing the lead paint,, was only an absurdity! She should not be doing any of that with a baby only days away! Mean while,, dunt is sitting on his ass posting on the forum, watching her work!?
I also donít believe this pregnant woman exists! Would any woman,,, (in her right mind) put up with a husband who is constantly texting on a computer or I phone?? Day after day,, week after week, writing crap that is not meant to help, but to annoy!! Plus,, having a husband that checks her pockets for money, or drives over her foot with a car?? I donít think so!
This woman,, real or not, is only a possession for him to boast about. You can see this in most of his posts. He brags about having her,,, then brags about how poor he treats her??
About women and the age range for childbirth,,, they have discovered that women can produce fertile eggs when past their prime. They thought for many years, that women enter maturity, with all of the eggs they would ever have, and could not produce more. But they have found a way to stimulate egg production in older women. However, this does not change the dangers of childbirth in older women, or the birth defects in the children.
It should also be noted that men over 40 also have a risk of a child with Downs-Syndrome!
When I was hurting and wrote my forum you guys helped alot sometimes was a stab at someone. You guys have a lot of info and expieriance this I do know. latly all you guys been doing is bickering. come on lets hear the good things. am hoping when I return can let you know about trip to Russia looking forward to it, think it will be a lot of fun. My ladys waiting and is very excited, so is her family. Will be leaving in about a week my Russian is much improved but still have long way to go.
Everytime my lady and I talk like her more and more. She feels the same. Not wasting time in Ukraine this time Am going else where feel success is with in my grasp.
Dunt,,, whatís ďjelouseĒ?? Did you mean ďjealousĒ?? No Dunt, I am not jealous of you,,,,, you are going to burn in hell, so why would I be jealous of you??
Spend time searching??? It only took a few seconds to find family/marriage counselors in the Adelaide area, it took longer to; select-copy-paste! I should help find you a doctor for the criminally insane,,, are there any nearby???
Cabinet business?? I donít know anything about that, just a few jokes about your driftwood business!
The dunt is right, I canít move on and let go of the past. He has two die on him, and he moves right on to the next!! But hey,,,, why not,,,,,, theyíre disposable,,, arenít they??!!
Durak,, you should know by now that danny canít count! He doesnít know that 40 + 3 = 43!! He runs out of fingers and toes somewhere between 16 & 24!!
For your own,,,, ďpeace of mindď you need to decide just how important children are to you, before you choose the 40 year old. You donít want thoughts of regret to haunt you and your future wife. You need to be okay with the thought of ďsettlingĒ for someone who does not fulfill your hopes and dreams! Thatís what Iíll be trying to decide over the next year.
Danny,,, our resident Duntanderthal, doesnít understand about courtship or normal male-female relations!
He wonít understand that besides the 2 to 3 years it takes for the paperwork here in the US, that we might want to spend some time to enjoy the marriage! An extended honeymoon.
He would rather treat her like breeding stock!
So,,,,, Danny,,, who picked out the sire for your wifeís baby????