I have a question I would like to ask if anybody could help out? I have been chatting to a girl using the built in video chat on fiance.com. However I am not made of money and the credits I purchase are eaten up quite quickly. I suggested to the girl that we use MSN to chat with. She said that she had never heard of it? This started alarm bells ringing. So I said have you heard of Skype she said she had but did not have an account. Can anyone tell me if they use MSN to communicate with women in the Ukraine and if so how is it called in the Ukraine? Also is it still free to Skype with a person from the Ukraine?
The girl has never asked for me to stay longer than I needed and comes across as quite genuine but I'd prefer to know if this is a person keeping me online to make her agency money or whether she has genuine interest. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I personally think that a buck per minute is extreme for video chat. Im not cheap but Im not stupid either.
I think that 50 bucks a month should include video chat. MSN isnt popular in Ukraine but Skype and google
are household names to anyone under 40 and not in an obscure village on a dirt road.
Hi thanks for that info, at least that's confirmed some truth in her not knowing about MSN, do you know whether Skype to Skype is free for the Ukraine and if not what it costs?
I got many videochat invitations all days from Nikolaev... this is how the agencies make big revenue from customers... so these girls basically are getting some kind of commission for videochats... is very common to see this adds in cities like Kherson and Nikolaev offering part time jobs for videochats.
I lived some time in Kherson and I spent this time with a girl from there, she found me in facebook because she wanted to know more about me but the agency was not allowing her to do it...
All agencies scams people, even those who called themselves "honest"... their staffs constantly insists girls to continue communicate with old mens to keep them as subscribes even when they have no chances and even when the girls are not interested... or they insist the girls to have meetings with men when the girl is not interested just to make them spend in their meeting/interpreter/apartments services. Some of these girls have local boyfriends, but they go to agencies looking to get gifts from different man.
Don't spend your money, if she is really interested she will find a way to contact you... if she is not you will only trash your money.
interesting how they draw out the conversation with no attempted to do anything positive to your guys needs,,,,, its a bit little hmmm your apartment needs a vacuum, she says ohhhh i cannot afford such with a gap of silence and the normal anticipation where this may go next.
Holykimura what do you think, is shes naturally blond or your stomach tightens for nothing.
welcome to the land of wined ups, innocently and not.
i hate f8ken agencys so its easy for me.
dear Anna i like you but this video stuff is degrading for me and more so i feel it is for you to,, if you want to communicate with me here's my................ hope to hear from you.......
dont pursue her,, her mind is already made up about you, make her pursue you if thats where her mind is.
but i guess thats easy for me to say.
"i am so glad theres always that last minute or nothing would ever get done"
I turned my chat feature off. I quickly got tired of a chat requests every 5 minutes from no less than 80 women/girls within the
first week of joining. If she is at home and able to chat via the agency then she is more than able to chat via skype.
skype is free, agency chat can quickly add up to cost of airfare.
Thanks for all your useful replies, I will make contact one last time sort of a bit like what you said kiwinorth. I'll post back to let you know how it goes.
If it turns out that she is after the money and not the good looks :) I'll be gutted. She was gorgeous but hey ho, we live and learn at least she didn't have me for hundreds of pounds!
There really should be someway of stopping this because some people will get done for a lot of money. I will be more vigilant from now on.
Tonight I was online and watching all the invites I was getting to chat online and I had 15 requests. 13 of those girls were from Nikolaev all of whom were potential stunners. All of them had low levels of English. Surprise Surprise!
I just sent the letter, now I wait and see, the girl was 28 years old so not that young, but every thing else stacked up against her. Just hope she is genuine as I won't feel I've been made a fool of.
Just seen this post about Nikolaev and contact details ... a few hours ago tried to setup email contact with a woman from there. Exchanged several messages until I was informed by the agency staff that "we have rules here". Well, bully for them.
Sumy is no better ... I was allegedly corresponding with a music teacher but everything suddenly stopped after I mentioned classical music, Shostakovich and Tchaikovsky. LOL
Rick4girl is right, that for anyone under forty Skype is a household word over there. In Russia it seems everyone uses it to chat long distance. Before you dump her, you should find a way to tell her about Skype and how to use it, particularly if she has a computer at home. Be positive, she may be very interested in you.
Update on my progress. I have had the girl try and video chat with me tonight with a message saying I’ll respond to your letter tomorrow. I'm thinking why you don’t do that then instead of trying to get me to video chat with you. It was tempting to chat to her but I was not prepared to talk to her until she replies with what I want to hear. So I wait for tomorrow for her reply and i think it's fair to assume that I shouldn't hold my breath. Although I can't see why she can't string a few sentences together today to tell me there is genuine interest and that she will sign up to Skype. I am glad I got out when I did.
On another topic I had another girl keep contacting me via private email. She was an absolute stunner as she sent several skin revealing photo's apparently she was a paediatrician and was interested in me. I was like hello this sounds too good to be true. So I replied back to her and said I appreciate the interest very much but recently I was duped into thinking I was talking to a girl who I was very interested but turned out to be fake. So if you don't mind prove to me some how you are who you say you are. I have not heard back yet LOL. These girls must think they see us coming.
So I'm just posting an update for anyone who is interested. It has been two days since I emailed this girl letting her know of my intent on stopping video chat. I have not had a reply. I am so glad I did this as she seemed so genuine and if I hadn't had suspicions I could have been shelling out a small fortune in video chats for nothing. So for any person reading this and you have suspicions about the lady you are video chatting with do what I did and see if she wants to communicate via Skype.
The activity is criminal like and I don't know how these girls sleep at night. I hope some day they fall foul of a con man themselves and they can learn how the guys they dupe feel! Bitches! Lol!
An update to the current situation, the said girl did not have her own computer or access to Internet. It turns out that she was using a cyber cafe to video chat. She has now started Skype video conversations from her friends house. So I am one happy bunny as I have not been duped and the girl was genuine :)
I am glad I gave her the ultimatum as I would have shelled out a small fortune video chatting on fiance.com
holykimura,
i dont mean to be negative but take her as a grain of salt for the moment.
dont let your heart get in the road of you needing to work out actually what or who she is, legit some dreamer or fire-cat.
just wondering, did you notice a lot of people walking around her and background in this so called cafe(if thats what you meant)
some of them places are like sardine cans if its a cheap one, or was it more formal like a business, an agency set up sort of thing.
its things like this you look for to see gaps or lies they pop up with, i have had so many in my time it became rather easy in the end to pick them out, after a while you looked for them without thinking.
so many girls do this for many different reasons from plain agency scams to a fight with their ex to living in a fantasy land its just odd really.
or maybe they have worn out their welcome in her town city so its time to leave if you know what i mean.
if its all good the big one then is working out is she a good fit for you, be realistic with this.
but watch for any past boyfriend problems, ask about her life,, take in everything of her past and remember it.
this info you will need, they can hide stuff so easy just because you are a foreigner and supposedly your brain goes as far as your eyes and... because you are just another westerner.
as sad as it sounds you need to be a detective but dont act like one as if you are in the cop-shop:) good luck dude