I read an article in a magazine that talked about the difference between a man and a woman having a conversation.
1) They listen to subject of the conversation.
2) They pay attention to the emotional tones and facial expressions of a conversation.
3) They pay attention to what is not being said.
4) They pay attention to what should be said and not being said.
5) They expect you (the man) to be doing the same thing.
During this conversation the man is only paying attention to the subject and not necessarily memorizing the words being spoken which leads to the man never being able to repeat per batem what the woman just said during the conversation and driving the woman crazy!
I find this so true, my ex used to ask me to repeat what she said all the time claiming I never listened to her and was tuning her out, which I know I never did! Then she would ask me to repeat what she just said and I would just give her a condensed version, of course I can not repeat it word for word, I'm a caveman! duh!
And in dealing with a girl from Russia who has a language so uniquely different from English we men have to be especially careful. If a woman in America says she is fine for example, it would mean she is absolutely NOT fine, or she says "Do what ever you want, I don't care" she absolutely DOES care and you better not do what ever it is you want, my question is it the same way with FSU woman as well or do they actually mean what they say????? From my experience, YES, they do say what they mean, and when you try to do the right thing as you would do with an American girl they go viral on you and think you are weak and to emotional. But maybe that is isolated only to my experience.
For what I know while dealing with ex-GF, Ukrainian men will disappear all day. Once they arrive home and a conflict from the wife fire up, he will ignore her and/or hit the road again. He will come half drunk. That is conflict UA Resolution 101. Police will not respond ( or fast enough, if they do) to domestic issues like in Western Europe or USA. Women are women, just watch out for retaliation.
:)))) you're talking like you're 12 :) everybody knows this stuff without any articles :)))
and yes we often say "fine" when everything is not fine and "i don't care" when we're really care...
Blu_craze, My past experience with my former girl from Kyiv on my fourth and final visit was she expected to be gifted the night before my return flight.She brought up the subject and then went viral absolutely beserk towards me in our rented apartment when i simply said i did not have a gift for her.She speaks and understands English perfectly . I had brought and sent gifts to her on previus trips. She picked the most expensive restaurants in Kyiv everyday and i enjoyed myself very much . I simply told her that the fact that i was making these long expensive journeys from USA to Kyiv was a god display of my serious intentions and that we in America (real men)lol! that we dont give gifts as a hobby but on Holidays and occasions.I hollered this at her at the top of my lungs enough to scare the daylights from her.She shut up instantly and was scared shitless and went to bed. I was so mad from all my efforts of spending and travelling on her and my behalf i did not sleep. I did not speak to her all morning ,she constantly apologized and e-mailed me kissing my arse when i returned home. I used my better judgement and ended it but did keep in touch.She immediately posted her prfile on AFA. I did find out through fotki.com that she was married four months later to a Jew who owns an accounting firm and is living in Israel.Does anyone think it was about the money ??? !!! I dont think she lost any sleep over me.This woman on many occasions went nuts and threw tantrums over not much of anything. My experience Blu.
welcome to Russia! Yes, they are more direct than American girls but even yet, each one is different. Ive learned to just be barely beyond emotional.
most seem to value that "man strength" much more tham American girls who almost seem to want you to be weak so they can control you.
With Russian women its best to always seem in control. you should always be direct and decisive. If you are like that most of the time then small displays of emotion will be taken more seriously. Its ok to show emotion as long as they know you are otherwise strong and in control. Of course it also depends on the situation too. You need to know her well enough to know when its appropriate. Basically, its not ok early in relationship until they really start to know your character.
Moy, your crazy!!! If we knew this,... life would be sunshine and roses! In a way your right we know how woman are, but we will never understand why,...yes means yes only when it mean no, but sometimes maybe can turn into no if it suites the purpose.... But the big kicker is that woman 100% believe men are just as Koo Koo as them and understands it all and think we are pretending not to understand that we have no clue wtf is going on. ;)
Sunnyboy, the first tantrum would of been enough for me to get gone. But most of the real girls find out quickly that marrying just for money is not easy. Pretending to be in love is harder than it looks in the movies and that bubble will pop in a few years.
sunvolt, well i think it was all your fault how she treated you. if you were going only in fancy places that meant you would be able to go there forever. if every time you bring her gifts it means you will do the same after 10 years of marriage, but you couldn't gift her anything on your 4th visit... of course she was expecting for a gift... You should brought her a fridge magnet!
Back a while ago,,, I read somewhere,,, that people only understand the mood or tone of a letter 50% of the time!! That is 50% when they are speaking the same language!! Add into the mix,,, a translator and a very different language,,, how is it possible to understand anything?
“This woman on many occasions went nuts and threw tantrums over not much of anything. “
Blu-SV,, during the early part of relations,,, if men left the girl after their first tantrum over little or nothing,,, soon they would stop throwing tantrums!!!!
"Here chicky, chicky, chicky, baby! I have $590 earrings for you if you will sleep with me! If not, I have four other girls in other cities who might! First come, first served! And above all else remember "I am serious!"!!!
A true player knows that once your deceiving, spoiling and any other malicious schemes end, that’s when reality bits. Congrats, you just had created a monster regardless of your intensions. Better to delete her/him and start over with someone else.
Women are the same everywhere. Never try to understand a women...but try to understand her ways. Simple of course but you have to be a good listener...then you will know the right decision and not need to ask.....