I read through a bunch of posts on here and this forum seems to have a pretty negative feel to it.
I was curious. Lets say I don't want love and I just want a hot blonde baby incubator to help me raise it... I mean, really I started looking into the idea of marrying a Russian/Ukrainian pretty much on the idea I want to procreate and sick of spoiled American girls. I've done $500+ dates enough times just thinking why not ship one in that wants the same thing instead of playing games? Would like to mix with some good looking genetics... I have a decent life but not some rich dude... I was curious how negative the take would be on if that is really all a guy wanted? Is that really that hard to find there? I haven't gone yet and preferrably wouldn't if it weren't required but I was planning on it. Really not wanting to visit the world's butthole but sounds necessary to date this way.
I keep reading "cold blooded" etc. in other posts so does that mean I can be straight forward with: you have kid then do whatever the hell you want? I keep reading about have to win her heart, don't get scammed, etc. but is it really that hard? I'm kind of curious because I can always lie to get to the same goal but do I have to? Is the supposedly they want a family thing good enough to be like "here kitchen, you barefoot and pregnant"? I can deal with crazy and really she will be heartbroken if tries to divorce for money since mine is all inheritence and thus outside of the scope of marriage.
To start Ukraine is not the worlds butthole. I would prefer to live there than what I have seen of the US. It is possible to find genuine and attractive women there but if you are an unsophisticated arsehole then dont get your hopes up too high.
I dont know that many have an ambition to be a barefoot pregnant housewife cooking and cleaning the kitchen, I think it more to have a maid and nanny look after the house and kids while they are out shopping or the beauty salon.
Ukraine is certainly not a butthole. In many respects I prefer it to the US. I dont think its very difficult to find an attractive girl for marriage at all.
You simply need to have the right perspective, reasonable goals and a willingness to travel often enough and stay long enough to find someone and cultivate a meaningful relationship. If you want a child, thats not difficult as many girls are more than willing to do that with a good guy.
I just said world's butthole because it sounds a lot like Mexico... Everything I have read about there is like: watch out for scams, carry cash because cards aren't good, prostitution, crooked cops, etc. and then the massive numbers of girls that show up to these social things is mind boggling. I have been messing around on Elena's models and several of the girls have U.S. flag shirts, pins on their clothing, etc. like they know which country they want to go to...
I'm not really an arsehole. I can get an average looking girl here but if I'm going to go through the hassle it will take to import one then going to aim a little higher... I treat girls great and have had U.S. girlfriends try to marry me to the point of "here is the ring if you ever want to ask". I was just curious since I read in one post that people tend to be more successful if they go about it business minded.
I guess I could just import one for a wife and another as an au pair?
Dont go to these countries looking for love, even my Ukrainians friends girls and guys don't recommend me to do it. If you travel there, just have fun and thats all. Do not spend money on girls, even small amounts, save it for you, drink, eat and have sex... but never buy them more than some drinks... however they are accustom to go in bed with men only for that.
CallMeDrunk wrote: " I was just curious since I read in one post that people tend to be more successful if they go about it business minded."
ANd you would be correct in that assumption. Its always best to keep your head and make life decisions rationally and logically and Marrying
a Ukrainian girl is no different. Sure, there are scammers and professional daters but there are also many genuine girls who are serious about
finding a good real man either inside or outside Ukraine.
As I spend increasing amounts of time in Ukraine I can say that they really arent much different than girls from anywhere else except they are prettier
and a bit more pragmatic than US ones. They are better suited to marriage and family as a whole.
You should avoid sweeping generalizations and take the time to learn about the culture and traditions as well as start to read news outlets so you
can become familiar with it. The more you understand, the better your chances for success. While the standard of living may not be up to US I can
say its certainly nowhere like Mexico.
Everything that you don’t like about Ukraine can be found in any large city here in the US. Ukraine has more people living in cities than in the US,,,, and almost all of the women you come into contact with will be from a city.
The agencies and websites hire the prettiest and most cunning,,, it is a business after all!! I compare it to trying to find an honest law abiding person in prison. If there is one,,, it’s by accident.
As difficult as it seems, a few guys do find their mate. A couple of years ago, we had a member called “baron555” and he promoted the “master plan” it was a business like approach. I haven’t read it for a couple of years,,, so you should look it up yourself, but it goes something like this:
Choose only English speaking women.
If you like a woman,, ask for her personal info.
If she does not want to give it to you,,,, move one.
In private email or skype, talk to her about everything, and if you don’t think you are a match,,, move on.
Once you both decide, that you have found the right person,, end your search for others.
There is a lot more to the “master plan”,, but that’s all I can remember at the moment. The main focus is not to waste any time,,,, or money.
A couple of years ago,, I was somewhat opposed to this idea, because it seemed like a cold hearted way to search for a wife. It also bypassed a lot of “potentially” good women, just because they didn’t speak English.
If I ever restart my search, I wouldn’t do it any other way.
that is actually a very good post by lonelyranger1701, from what ive been reading around these here parts all we need to see is such very good posts from the other troublemakers such as danny42 and ragingbull
And please dont try to drag me into any argument because im not that interested