I've spent about $350 on dream-marriage.com. Got one girls contact details. It didn't include an email address. She wants me to call her to get her email address from here. She says she has been on the site for 2 years but no man has flown there to meet her. The girls deny being paid to use the site, one girl was visible on web cam, but could have been a video loop. 100% of girls reply to my messages. I try Elenas Models and I get maybe 1 response for every 10 emails I send and the girls on Elenas Models are ugly compared to Dream Marriage. Clearly I a, being scammed, right!?
I don't have any data about dream-marriage, but I am sure you've got the right idea.
The reason your experiences are so different, is that the majority on elenasmodels are genuine.
This isn't to say that there are no scammers on elenasmodels -- only they do try to police their site, and if you avoid the obvious doubtful profiles (too young to be serious, lots of sexy photos, profile has very few words or says "wealthy/generous" about the man she seeks) then you're in the real world trying to connect with women who want to be selective, as you want to be selective.
What makes elenasmodels stand out, is that the normal situation for such websites is to have a majority of scammer profiles. The worst one I saw (sorry, don't remember the name) appeared to be at least 95% obvious scam profiles.
One additional word of caution -- I have taken an interest in several profiles (maybe about 2 per year) on elenasmodels that were not suspicious looking at all: woman was not glamorous to look at, not very young, has a child, etc. etc., but were later listed by the website as having been withdrawn because of matching a known scammer, or investigation of bad behavior.
Be grateful you have only spent $350, that is chump change to what the end game is, finding a real woman and developing a real relationship that evolves into marriage. When I first started that was the website I used, that was a big mistake. The girl I wound up dating turned out to be a serial dater and used every excuse in the book to keep me on the site. That was big mistake #2!
After we broke up, I created a fake profile to test my theory that she would lie and say she never had any man visit her. Sure enough she said no man had ever visited her and would love for my fake profile guy to come and visit her with her as my guide. I also found her later on the dream marriage blog of success stories that she met her match in August of 2010 and I just laughed because I had inside information from a friend living in her city that she was still single.
If you want I believe she is still on the site. Profile number 24729, go ask her yourself knowing that at least 2 men have visited her. I bet good money she says that no one ever visited her in her city.
So I requested the contact details from a girl on Dream-Marriage.com and she accepted my request. She then did not reply with more than 2 words to my Skype messages and claimed I was being abusive because I asked her to prove that she was real and asked her if she gets paid to be on the site and respond to emails. So, looks like that is $60 for the contact information down the drain. Well, some really good looking girls on that site but I am not sure if they are real or if they are fake profiles that an agency is using with other girls to pretend to be them.
Also, even if the girl is real, she is photoshopped and probably a serial dater. FML, what sites should I try now? BTW, I am only 29 and from Australia so I shouldn't have the same problems as a 55yo when it comes to landing and banging a 21yo model.
WTF, i usually found the ones that spun out were more then likely what you were worried about getting in the first place or are from the other side "think their undies dont...."
so its not a 60 wasted.
if i asked my girl such, i know she would go out of her way to give me any relevant info i needed.
thats just her,,, thats what honest cruisey souls do, not get in a huff.
huffs are about striking a nerve.
and they know their world is full of games.
My question is how will you know if she is honest? Until you actually meet in person ot is all a guessing game. If she is on dream marriage, I highly doubt it. Just my opinion but good luck.
Not real as in not looking for a real relationship with a foreign man. Looking for that free holiday by you coming to visit. That is how most but not all women on these dating sites are. I wish you luck but until you meet in person you will not know if she is really honest or not!
As with every site you have to use a cool head and common sense. I have been on quite a few sites and I spent a LOT of money on chats (over 10K). I have been to Ukraine and Russia four times.
I bought computers for women, gifts and Lots of flowers. My problem was that I felt like I was a kid in a candy store. I had good relations with many women on various sites (Dream-Marriage, AnastasiaDate) and I would date a woman and spend lots of communications then go to the next cutest one. I was like a kid in a candy store.
I had big feelings for a 25 year old Ukraine named (Olga: 93296) on Dream-Marriage. She took an eight hour bus ride to visit me in Kiev- it was a terrific time and had I not broken the relationship I perhaps could had married her. I got cold-feet and was scared of the age difference (I was 45 and she was 25) and all my friends told me it was a bad idea, so I ended the relations.
I went to a different agency site (NatalyMarriageAgency) and found my soulmate there. We have been dating for almost two years now and we are now just waiting for the K-1 visa paperwork to be complete. I have visited her every six months in person and we talk every single day (since July 2011) with Google hangout. I visited her mother, her son and family and it was great! I enrolled her in English courses back in December 2011 and now she has an intermediate level in English and speaks very good!
My former best-friend who I introduced to the Dream-Marriage site found a Russian woman and they got married and now have a child.
So I can tell you that there are some women on these sites who really do want to find happiness and a good man.
-Glenn
Been on Dream-Marriage (little skeptical now!) but just a few things:
1. A girl who I seem to really like doesn't bombard me with messages every day and she has an introductory video and when live chatting, doesn't sound suspicious at all (no mention of money... or anything) - LEGIT OR FAKE
2. The same girl says she has never been in love before (sounds suspicious I know!) and says the guys in Ukraine are ugly. She likes the look of my 'chocolate' brown skin - LEGIT OR FAKE
3. I asked her if she wanted to live video chat and she replied she was excited about it. I asked her about Skype and she changed the subject the first two times - LEGIT OR FAKE
4. Another girl who I talked to on the site (the first one) sent me a message a month later wondering why I haven't been talking to her - LEGIT OR FAKE
Thought I just scope the first girl out again. See what else she says? Then I'm gone.
2. ("the guys in Ukraine are ugly") -- very screwy; to my eye there at least as high a proportion of nice-looking men as in Western countries, if not more. Sounds like a scammer come-on.
3. excited about video chat, avoids Skype -- very likely somebody enticing you to use costly video chat service, and getting to keep a percentage of it. Typical scam garbage.
I have a profile on Dream Marriage, but have not upgraded to their monthly subscription status or purchased any credits. The Gold status seems "reasonable" at $29.99 a month and allows you to write 10 reply messages per month. The video chat cost is extra and the per minute costs vary depending on how many credits that you buy (I think it is at least about 50 cents per credit with discounts if you buy a large quantity). This cost is roughly par with this site, but is not unlimited correspondence.
My profile does not have any photo on it (just some statistics). The site keeps "hounding me" with video chat popups each time I sign on (and even when I do not sign on). I get emails nearly every day and most are from the profiles that I saved as "favorites", so someone is checking on which men showed interest in the lady. One particular profile keeps sending me messages off and on and the content appears to be rather random. It might be that the messages are sent to anyone who shows an interest to the profile. One thing that I did notice is that one profile that I wrote to on another site, added me as a favorite to her profile on Dream Marriage. I also added her as favorite so the profile must have also noticed that and did the same thing on her end.
BTW, (Olga: 93296) referenced earlier is still on Dream Marriage.