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lonelyranger1701

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	Send: 8/1/2013 1:37:15 AM

I want a good relationship, Not some worthless relationshit I saw this on fb today and it made me laugh. Maybe this is what everyone should say when they meet their girl for the first time??

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	Send: 8/2/2013 10:15:42 PM

Honesty is the vest policy for building and maintaining stable relationship. Once there is some sort of BS, red flags or shenanigans, is time to end it…. What are the odds that, a relantionshit turns into a relationship?

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	Send: 8/4/2013 1:40:57 AM

“What are the odds that, a relantionshit turns into a relationship?” Damn slim!! What you wrote reminds me of my ex and the vacation we were supposed to take last year. I hadn’t heard from her for at least 6 months,, then I get a call from her out of the blue. She missed me so much,,,, wanted to see me again,,, and go on some romantic vacation together. Seychelles, Maldives, Mexico, Cuba, Dubai,,, it didn’t matter where. I told her: I’d think about it! You’ll think about it??? You’ll think about it??? Lol lol lol lol I wonder if I was the first guy that didn’t jump on command? I had one or two emails from her after that,,, and that was it. It is almost a year to the day,,, and the really funny thing is,,, that this week I’m doing the exact task at home,, making a fence. The relationship I thought I had,,, was really just relationshit!

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	Send: 8/4/2013 3:01:33 PM

for you guys going the first or second time and dont have much experience I would suggest this: dont make your trip just about meeting a girl. Think about where you are going and all the other things the country has to offer. For example, there is so much to do in Ukraine. Lots of "man stuff" you and a buddy can do. drive a tank, throw grenades, visit submarine base and ww2 bunkers, visit Chornobyl/Pripyat, Fly a MiG, mountain climbing, sailing.... OR, volunteer with mine or another charity helping kids. You can paint playground equipment at orphanages, present a present to an orphan on their birthday... Dont make your trip all about a girl, make meeting a good girl part of your trip. Besides, Ukrainian girls like guys who are interested in helping kids;) Your memories will be about the great time you had (even if you dont find a girl that time)instead of feeling like you wasted your time!

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	Send: 8/8/2013 12:41:20 AM

danny42 wrote: "im sure heaps of guys will want to paint a playground ... I can see them lining up now" in the USA, if your trip is for "charity purposes" then you can write it off your taxes. considering the average 2-3 week trip runs $5000 it is a good tax deduction. and Danny, I had 5 guys volunteer to do just that simply for the tax break in May-June. They met with and went out with girls in the evenings and on weekends. so far I have 2 more coming in September-October and yet another in November.

kaiserdag

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	Send: 8/8/2013 6:48:19 PM

Well Loney, my 1st girl turnout to be a heart-breaker, and I got frustrated with her character…I guess, the magic disappeared once I saw the whole picture. That was on my 4 and last time with her. The funny thing about this is we kept communicating. To make it ,short, that I had the same outcome with another girl I meet online this time. Just like I had mention before (in other topics); even though, she was not a scammer (I was well taken care) she had no real intensions with me. Never heard from her nor I will bother her. Rick,,, all my buddies that I had personally know , had travel to meet a UA girl which they meet online. While I was in AU, I went to different cities, town, villages (I had rented a car, not recommended). Train rides a cheap and I told her that is ok ,” I can ride the local village bus” on dirt roads. I Visited a warplanes museum in Poltava, river walks, Ice skating and bowling in Dnepropetrovsk, ohhh stepping on the Sofia and St Michaels in Kyiv is way different than the Vatican and the 16 Chapels . Also to 2 weddings, a birthday party, and town fairs. Yes lots of things to do in Ukraine, but is better if you are well accompanied. If my Russian was a bit more like my ex-UA English, I wouldn’t hesitate to visit more often FSU countries while here in the UK.

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	Send: 8/9/2013 2:19:38 AM

Rick,,, you need to understand that danny spent most of childhood chewing the paint off of the playground equipment! After the normal kids went home for the day,,, little danny crawled out from under the bridge and started gnawing on everything the normal kids played with! Vitamin L is very important for the members of his family!

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	Send: 8/9/2013 11:49:48 AM

"Still supported by dad at your age best you don't attack other people's up bringing that you have no idea about" That's funny!! Danny how's Iren? Do you still watch that bj video??

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	Send: 8/10/2013 12:04:47 AM

kaiserdag,,, “LR” works just fine! I sorry to hear it didn’t turn out for you. How long ago was that trip? A couple weeks before my 2010 trip to Kherson, I caught the girl in a lie about the websites and agencies. I should have met this girl the year before,,,, but her profile was removed while I was away moose hunting in Canada,,, I thought I did something wrong?! After my 2009 trip,,, I had a lot of “WTF” type questions so I did a lot of investigating online and found her again. I joined that website to write to her and another girl that was removed from A-web. It all started when the agency in Kherson stopped doing business with Aweb. The girls were given the opportunity to share their contact info with the men they were writing to,,, but I never received any info,,, and the girl claimed to know nothing about it. After writing to her at AOB for a while,,, I wanted her to try to get back on Aweb,, as AOB was damn expensive back then. And she didn’t have her own computer. Months are going by and nothing is changing,,,,,, so I contacted Aweb on her behalf. They knew nothing about it,,,, also claimed that if a girl could not read and write English,,, she could not use their services without an agency. I told the girl what I had discovered,,,, and the always sweet and polite girl got quite angry. I almost called off the trip,, but I had wrote to her for so long,,, so I went anyway. I ignored red flags and gut feelings! There was no connection between us at all,,,, but the interpreter and I had a nice conversation each time the girl went to the bathroom. I felt at home and at ease with the interp,,,, the girl comes back and it’s just silence. We met twice over two days for a total of 4.5 hours,,,,,, 90USD. At the end of the 2nd date, the interp took a picture of the girl and I,,,,, to use as a “success” story. I never saw the girl again,,,, but the letters kept coming?! I don’t remember how many letters we sent to each other,,,, 400-500? At 4 or 5 dollars each. The sad part of the story is,,,,, this,,,,, person,,, who ever was doing the writing,,, could have been a person’s best friend, if only she was sincere. The letters weren’t just a few lines,,,,, or pillow talk to keep me writing,,, but full page letters,,, or more. I wrote to her saying that I know everything is a lie here. I’ve been considering whether I should continue to write anyway,,,, but nothing is ever going to come of it,,, so why should I bother?? Since that time,, I’ve found the interp on a scammer watch site. I found the girl’s Vk profile,,, along with her boyfriend’s profile and all of the photos he has of themselves together,,, with the dates on the pics going back years before I met her. I sent her a friend invite,,, and he intercepted it. Wrote a couple letters back and forth,,,,,,, but much of what he wrote could not be translated! Lol I’ll need to read it again,,, but he did say something to the effect of,,,,, I was nothing to her, and it was just for the money. I also told him, that if she meant anything to him,, that he should get her off of the websites. He is now living in Odessa,,, and only has one photo of her. Guys that don’t find a mate on these dating sites shouldn’t feel too bad,,,,, it’s not what they were created for!!

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	Send: 8/10/2013 12:54:19 AM

I think if you do not hear from a girl you have a relationship with for more than a couple days it is almost for certain a relationshit. I am actually in Ukraine at the moment after just having met a girl I have been talking to since May, there were a couple odd things at first but we talk to each other at least an hour or more pretty much every day on Skype. If she does have a boyfriend here he does not mind her talking on Skype to me all the time. The email count between us is close to the 2000 mark also so I kinda doubt she is sending anyone else that many letters. If I didn't hear from her for more than a few days without a very good explanation I'd would think there was no point in continuing to see her. As we talked about a relationship is like a beautiful flower and communication is water for the flower, no communication and the flower dies. I see her at her work and at home on Skype, she works very long hours in a hotel and gets paid dirt. She has never asked me for any money, on this trip she told me she does not want my money at all. I did pay for everything we did together but she makes such a small income I would not feel right having her pay for anything. We were in Yalta and she got to go parasailing for the first time in her life. It was great to see how happy she was and for the 500 UAH it cost for the fee, it was more than worth it. We are meeting again in October for another week and she wants me to come to her home town, meet her parents and cook for me. If it all goes as well as this trip did perhaps I found the 1 in 100 on here who are not looking for someone to fund their lifestyle. I doubt very much any of the "relationshit" girls want you to meet their parents, especially on what will only be our second meeting in person. She also wants me to spend Christmas/New Years/ Orthodox Christmas with her so I will be here for 3 weeks that trip. It was my first time in Ukraine, one thing I am pretty sure most of the girls on here lie about is not drinking, or smoking, somehow Hookah is not "smoking" so its a bit of a loophole. Pretty much every girl I chatted with who said on their profile they do not drink you find out they do. If the girl is into you she will do things for you, when we went to a buffet she practically served me and was always getting things for me etc the entire time we were together.

dh7

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	Send: 8/10/2013 9:12:33 AM

I was a bit concerned at first as the translation costs were going to be high but even that got corrected. I've read posts on here about guys being worried about being "taken" for $50 on an excess cab fare or whatever. If your $50 means that much to you stay home because I found things like cab fares have a wide variety of price and quality, my taxi out from Odessa to Simferopol cost $350 USD and I booked it on line with a reputable company, however the one back only cost $280 and was in a Mercedes. I don't think its a matter of some girl screwing you over for $50, or if they are its because you are probably being a jerk in the first place. She speaks actually very clear English for the words she knows and she does want to take some English lessons, cost for that is 50 UAH/Hr which is pretty reasonable she is too busy until September to start them . Her suggestion next visit is no translator so that cost goes away obviously. I think anyone who is going to try and have a relationship with someone from Ukraine needs to put some effort into learning Ukrainian or Russian, its not reasonable that the girl should have to do all the "work" in being able to communicate better. When we were out I got to learn a Russian word describing women who are "easy" oddly enough in both languages the word starts with an 's' I have been learning Russian because in southern Ukraine it is more commonly spoken. And as far as longing to go to the west, I think you will find that is not always the case. The girl I met would very much like it if I would move to Ukraine if we end up being together but she is not completely against moving to Canada where I am from. She is very close to her family and the idea of moving away from her parents is hard for her to think about. Her mom called her pretty much every couple hours during our vacation/meeting. Its too early to be deciding things like that because who knows where it goes but not all women on here are longing for a green card to the USA or the equivalent to other countries.

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	Send: 8/10/2013 5:04:49 PM

My apologies LR, I got it wrong while reading through a lot of worthless bickering that are trashing worthy topics…. Anyway,,,Never had I heard of this FSU thing till, I was working in UA. While I was there, a rich old fat 44 y/o German that look like 54 y/o guy had married young and slim blond (she was about 30). According to my ex-girlfriend, they were dating online for a year and happily ever after in Berlin. I met her while working there for almost 5 weeks, summer of 2011. (From my point of view) It went from relationshit “kill some time”, to relationship “I thing she is the right one”. But after 4 visits and 8 months, I had enough of her HARAKTER and made the Call. We are still in contact. So I gave FSU online dating a try using LAVA and see if I could do better. I had mentioned this story before, I made rookie mistakes. She had a fake profile and a picture; even though, (she was better looking than the photo) texting on Skype rather than video chatting. when not able for Skyping it was because “ I went with my mama to Kiev” …leaving hanging like a fool 3x within the 2 months of Skyping. Well, I did not read forums like this before; therefore, after arriving in KBP in the fall of 2012, that relationship went to relationshit within 2 weeks. She knew I didn’t smoke, but she didn’t care, she have to smoke when she was drinking. It was an “Epic Failure”. I have been more objective since then. Having experiences like this had sharpened my scanning for scammers online and offline dating within the island or from the main land. Anyone can understand or learn the language, culture and what turns her on and off, but no one have the book on understanding women regardless if she is American, FSU or Latin. The grass is greener on the other side of the fence, but what will be the chances that this elution/feeling ends in a fairy tale? We all know that it takes 2 to Tango! But who is leading who and to what end? I believe that neither of these 2 UA girls were not scammers, pro daters nor something in between. They were normal girls that made decisions which led me to realize that after putting a serious effort/time/money, the grass was not greener from my point of view. I strongly suggest treating them respectfully and show them the standards, because they have the option to say “I do” or to keep playing games. “Guys that don’t find a mate on these dating sites shouldn’t feel too bad” no way LR, from the land that has many women and a few good men, I just feel disappointed TWICE. BTW,,,dh7 ......thanks for your input….for I have seen and heard, including from ex, is that most young people smoke and drink as early as 14. Their smoking habit goes on or off base on their moods. I told her I don’t have a problem with your kid, just with your smoking. Till this time she stills smoking. “If the girl is into you she will do things for you” that's right! Money helped, but I had man-handle/fixed a faulty electrical connection and a broken sink faucet, looking out for her kid while she and her dad go to work and many others details. Love is a feeling that omes and go but shared memories like that are hard to forget.

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	Send: 8/11/2013 2:56:58 AM

Dh7,,,,,, I’m glad you’re having a good time and that things seem to be working out. You need to wait 2 to 3 years before knowing if you have the “”1”” out of 100,,,,, but you might have the 1 out of 25. How was Crimea, and how hot was it down there?? I heard it can hit 50C during heat waves? Are you still planning to go back through Odessa on your way back? I agree with you about gaps in communication,,,, it’s never a good sign. With the girl in Kherson, her agency left the website, and I found her again after my trip, so I had a 4 month gap. But,,, it didn’t matter anyway,,,, it was only relationshit! I also agree about the smoking,,,, they know it is frowned upon here,,,, so they claim they don’t. On my last trip, my ex informed me that she smoked. I told her that I already knew for over a year!! She had a puzzled look on her face,,, so I said: Ve Germans have our vays!!! Lol “If the girl is into you she will do things for you, when we went to a buffet she practically served me and was always getting things for me etc the entire time we were together.” Very true,,,, but don’t rely on it. In the 1st city of my 1st trip of the online era, the interpreter there almost proposed to me at SVO, departing Moscow, going to Kiev and Odessa. We spent a lot of time together, and it almost seemed like we were actually dating. She would help serve me at different places around town. These places served good food and weren’t expensive. At the airport, I received her contact info along with a big hug and a kiss. She warned me about Ukraine,,,, and told the truth about it,,,,, then asked for any left over Rubles. lol I had emailed her a few times,, and when I joined fb, they sent out friend invites and fb invites to all of my email contacts. She joined fb rather quickly,,,, but nothing became of it. I noticed that her birthday was off by a few months,,,, and she had a daughter. There isn’t much honesty in their website profiles!

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	Send: 8/11/2013 3:42:36 AM

“My apologies LR, I got it wrong while reading through a lot of worthless bickering that are trashing worthy topics” It’s okay,,, I have a part in the bickering too. I can only let just so many lies slide! Danny thinks that if he can keep feuding with guys that live on other continents long enough,,, that he will get some kind of redemption for all of the bad things he’s done in his life, which may have caused a woman, who had Bi Polar disease to take her own life! Like,,,,, the father of her unborn bastard child, putting a link to their BJ video on the forum here. That’s low! That’s danny42! I know a guy in his 50’s who lives in Ukraine a month at a time, and always has at least one girl on his arm. He has dozens of new photos each week,,,, always a party going on. All you can eat and drink,,, it seems everyone is invited too. The guy is not good looking,,,, but I’m sure he makes good money,, I just don’t know how much he has saved up,,,, he spends it like water. I’m sure he’s a great guy that is fun to be around. He will be in a relationship for 6 months,,,,, then with another girl in just days. These girls are in their teens and 20’s?! An FSU woman who had a profile on the forum here once wrote: A Russian woman is like a cat,,,,, she goes to whom ever has the most food! And then a local guy said: If you want a girl of your choice to live with you,,,, just buy an apartment in Kiev! Those statements are most likely true,,,,, but is that the type of woman you want to spend the rest of your life with??

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	Send: 8/11/2013 2:31:54 PM

Last year I saw signs of new apartments in Kiev at $35k. A guy from Dnepropetrovsk bought a KIA Sportage for $38K, that is INSANE! I rather invest in the apt, for business only not for her. I pity the fool who goes after those girls in their late teens or early 20’s. Young and sexy but they have no idea of what they want or the want the easy way out of a” crazy mama or alcoholic papa”. Older FSU men will not deal with a woman of his age. I see many of those guys in their 50’s chasing girls out at the night club, well dressed and smoking a big tobacco. That guy knows that this girls come for the good time and go once they are a problem ( most like because they want to move in with him or an apt) .The local night club that gets fill with preteens, 20’ some, single mothers, and married women as well. While husband or lover boy stay home w/kids or out drinking w/ kolegas. According to BBC many young UA resolve to prostitution……. I respectfully disagree w/ you LR…If women meets the requirements and is according to Prov 31 to your point of view … dating her 1-2 year is ineffective. Most men here are not in there 20’s and trying to figure this out. Once a match seen positive, the stage is more like,,,,, take a chance,,,,,,, make the deal,,,,,, and act accordingly with knowledge. Most men here if not all, except WTF, are mature enough (that if your lady qualifies) to waste years or time, on long distance relationship. Unless there is a serious effort that shows that she is “1 in a Million or 100 or out 25” and that she demonstrates the same to you. I read here about a guys that travels with his UA lady to exotic places….great/excellent for you man! …now this is the girls that have posted all those HOLYDAYS in her VK( BTW you are not in the pictures) and also is sending letters to new pretenders.

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	Send: 8/11/2013 6:02:02 PM

You posted the link with your previous user name,,,, the one the moderators removed. When you were kicked off of the forum,,, all of your previous crap went with you. But you already know this,,,, and that is the only reason why you are able to act so brave now. But I have YOUR OWN WORDS talking about it!!

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	Send: 8/11/2013 6:04:12 PM

danny42 Member send PM send PM send PM add to buddies Send: 12/12/2009 12:08:46 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- bs ... for normal 34 year old human sex is a part of life . many enjoy diferent things it doesnt make the person any less of a person . take a guy is he a bad person for wanting to be gay. take a coulpe that enjoy sex when other can see them . does that make them a bad person . take a chick that goes to the nudist beach does that make them a bad person . take a chick thats happy to put a picture in home girls in a blokes magazine , does that make them a bad person . nasfan there is nothing wrong with putting that pictures as a tiny aviator picture . i does not mean anything . you just like to make a big deal out of nothing . you say "danny wouldnt get sex and his women is not real " so i post a picture getting a blowey. big deal . everything i have said i have been able to show some kind of picture . i guess in your relationship you dont get much sex ,,,what the misses is tired of sex when she arrives home ? do you have to beg for it once every 3 months ? i guess she never evern huggs you in bed either ? stupid question she is a buy wife .... of course she doesnt

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	Send: 8/12/2013 2:39:52 AM

Kaiserdag,,, can you clarify that,,,, on what do you disagree??

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	Send: 8/12/2013 2:42:01 AM

“looney its best you get your facts right .....there was no video bla bla bla ...oh you want there to be one so you can watch and pleasure yourself ..…” You are a queer fag danny42!!!

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	Send: 8/12/2013 11:47:04 AM

----------Kaiserdag,,, can you clarify that,,,, on what do you disagree??---------- LR,,,. You wrote to dh7…”,You need to wait 2 to 3 years before knowing if you have the “”1”” out of 100,,,,, but you might have the 1 out of 25.”….Tom, mentioned something about getting to know her for 6 months before visiting her. A long distance relationship requires as much work as one from down the street. So I said “If your lady meets the requirements and to your point of view she is acting according and properly … dating her for over 2 year will be ineffective and a waste of time. Most of the gentlemen here (not those looking for sex abroad with teens) are looking for a lasting companionship with a suitable lady. So once a match is seen positive, the stage is set for ,,,,, “taking a chance on her , making realistic expectations ( pre-nuptial agreement ?),,,, but most certainly, acting accordingly with knowledge not with fear. Mature and wise people, regardless of age will not waste years or time, on long distance relationship (unless that person is in jail). Waiting for the perfect FSU woman? In that case,” let him who is without sin, cast the first stone “John 8:7…Only a serious effort from both ends building that relationship will show that this is “1 in a Million or 100 or out 25”. In my online experience; it took me less than 3 months to go from relationship to relationshit and over. For me, it was a waste of time, but a learning experience. How many dates will take for that sensation/ feeling and then after consulting with the logic, conclude if this is a keeper or not?

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