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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Would this be a 'good deal' for FSU girls? Author Post Pat1979 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2013 6:04:55 PM   What are my chances to do this?: I would like to post a advert in russian dating website, someting like this: I'm looking for a girl from former FSU who wants to get out, get a UK/EU passport. All you have to do is marry me and live with me for a five years. I offer nice life, vacations, accomodation etc. all payed. Pre-marriage agreement is 'must sign'. You will be my girlfriend/wife and after 5 years (minimum to obtain passport) we will say bye-bye to each other, you can stay in UK, or go back to you country. You will get passport, experience, learn english, study a univeristy, whatever. I'm nice looking young lad, no ugly old granpa, but I want no commitement, no babies. Please, I'm not trying to offend anyone. Thanks for your thoughts. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2013 11:10:06 PM   Pat,,, why bother with the formalities of marriage and visas if you are just going to throw it all away in 5 years? If you are only looking for hookups and sponsorship, use the links I included at the bottom. The two dating sites are perfect for hookups and bogus relationships,, one even has “sham marriage” as a search option. The third link,, ukrgo is a online classified site, where you can look for anything! If you’re serious about not being serious,,,, just rent or buy an apartment in Kiev or any other large Ukraine city. I’ve heard that it’s no problem to find something to move in with you. http://en.loveplanet.ru/ http://lovefoto.ru/ htt p://www.ukrgo.com/ Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2013 4:26:29 PM   Im guessing Pat wants a far more attractive girl than is available in the UK. Not many to choose from there unless you like ugly overweight ladies. what is the benefit for you, Pat? kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2013 9:14:56 AM   a show piece you mean Rick.. actually Pat personally i would never go down this road. reasons, maybe you havent come across people that live on the dark side a lot. that style of search will get its percentage of life's scum to put it blankly. you are asking something of a person that doesn't think morally the same as many to be ethical to the end. this person with interesting morals, when pissed off could suddenly be in a position in the eyes of the law to turn your life upside down. one phone call to the police and forget the prenup for any great protection, you will be paying her and her lawyer fees plus the rest of its nightmare. theres even the possibility she may be running from her own trouble. it just opens you up to a can of worms, its bad enough looking for someone thats truly ethical then trusting someone on the other side. unless one has the capability to be uglier then they. here in NZ i know of a guy who was visited by very big men speaking russki in leather jackets because of whom he had been shagging the last six months. he was forced to shut up, sit at his table and listen to the facts of life after coming home from work. he did no background check on her, never put his feet on russian soil,, she was a true mail order bride. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2013 10:32:03 PM   Kiwi,, I agree with what you wrote,,, that’s also why I had wrote: “no problem to find something to move in with you.” The key word is “something”! These people above all else, are survivors! They do have a dark side to their culture, that we might only see in our inner cities here in the west,,, or south west. When push comes to shove,,, they will go around, thru, or over the top of a guy. And he will be left with the problems. kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2013 7:52:46 AM   yeah lonely, it gave me a good laugh reading your first post,,, the why bother stuff. its almost a why bother now if one was doing it for a sweet no games woman alone. just imagine actually offering what a lot of these tramps actually want, and all given to them on a plate. no need of pretending to be interested in you(its just a money thing) the cold bitch attitude from the start line when pissed off because this is who i am true dislikes and likes up front with the added bonus of the freedom to do mental brake downs without a thought sex for diamonds who cooks for you me, get real. they would be gobsmacked with such a offer. trouble is they would actually think they are been scammed by some smart ass westerner. so in this sense could one pull it off. Pat, a lot of these girls over there are basically problematic head cases. that is whom i'm preferring to here. but hey i'm keen to watch, would be interesting. it wouldn't be impossible but lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/26/2013 3:26:10 AM   Kiwi,, I agree,, any woman that would “whore” herself out for five years to get a greencard or citizenship,,,, is something that I don’t even want around. I have a story about an American girl, dating back to the early 1980’s. This woman went from man to man, all depending upon their bank accounts. I know a small 3 or 4 year segment of her early past,,,, and a little current info on her. She was pretty,,, tall and slender with a nice figure. As pretty as she was,,, she could not have accomplished all of that on looks alone,,, she must have had some real talents or skills. The first guy I know of was the brother of a girl I went to school with,,, then she moved onto an successful painter,,, (homes),,,,, then broke up a married couple that had three kids and an successful business. She was a career home wrecker! The last two guys played on my father’s softball team,,,, the new ex-boyfriend and the new boyfriend!! There was a little pushing and shoving,,,, but teammates kept them apart. Towards the end of the game,,,, the new boyfriend pushed her away from him,,,, and she stumbled in my direction,,,,, and then gave me a good look over?!! I grinned and shook my head,,, No! The 3rd guy (that I know of) was divorced by his wife,,,, she got at least half,,, and the kids. He had to buy back half of his own families business! This guy is also a customer of ours,,,, we carried his bills for a whole year. He then married this woman,,,,, it lasted 2 or 3 years,,,, once again his property gets cut in half. She went on to marry or date many other men,,,, and finally married an old but rich widower. He is in his upper 80’s,,,, she must be about 50 to 55 by now. All of the men should have known her past and her ex’s,,,,, but still got involved??! Little head can’t think clear enough, when a tongue is sliding up and down on it!! My 1st ex-wife idolized this woman,,,,, that would explain her 3 or 4 other ex-husbands,,,, besides me. My little head has a hard time to concentrate too!! Pat1979 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/26/2013 7:41:40 AM   Thank you, lads for all your answers.. really interesting debate. My reasons: need some girl to shag and I'm tired of relationship negatives (nagging, bitching and you have to pretend to care..), I would be the one who decide what is she wearing to bed (not flannel pj;-) And more control over the relationship, I guess. Less head-wrecker type, I dated before. I'm not looking for any tram bitch/obvious scammer (as reffered above as 'something'), but more like student girl, if you know what I mean. But thats hard to recognize, sure, you right lonelyranger. I would 'test' her during 90 days tourist visa.. I know that keeping her on short leash would be a lot of work, controlling emails, web history, cameras at home maybe.. Also; I would like to learn russian (I'm already studying the language). Rent flat in Kiev: not a option, because of work, need to stay here-maybe for retirement. to kiwi: you mean domestic violence call? any thought how to prevent this? maybe hidden web-cameras at home? 'unless one has the capability to be uglier then they. ' thats for sure right. I can be a hard nut, but would it be enough? Thats a question I need to think about and cover it with emergency plan. WTFisgoingon Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/26/2013 9:57:26 AM   "My reasons: need some girl to shag and I'm tired of relationship negatives (nagging, bitching and you have to pretend to care..), I would be the one who decide what is she wearing to bed (not flannel pj;-) And more control over the relationship, I guess." ^^^ This man is my hero ^^^ lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2013 1:19:54 AM   I didn’t understand why you wanted to marry,,,,, instead of just living the single life. No commitments, no babies, (hopefully) just sex and change partners anytime you want?! But you want unprotected, yet somewhat safe, uninhibited sex?! You want the marriage so she doesn’t run around??! I’m betting you will take her to the doctor and have a few blood tests taken,,,,, and a prescription for birth control?!! You are looking for a “good” girl to do a bad thing,,,,,, (the 5 year lie)!! Good luck!! I think that fits into the 5 leaf clover category?! The search will become tiresome,,, believe me,,,, I know! To find an honest girl that will honor the agreement,,,, but yet frisky or open enough to go through with it,,, will not be easy. You might want to seek out a girl for a student or work visa. At least she can go home without penalty if she changes her mind. And I’ve heard of unmarried couples having a “Relationship contract” both people agreeing with a set of rules or terms. I would also worry about keeping any girl on a “short leash” controlling her every move. She will rebel,,,,, and when she does,,,, it could happen in your sleep,,,, or poison in your food. I’ve heard that those are their two favorite methods! kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2013 8:35:10 AM   yeah the domestic violence call is exactly what i mean. there goes all my legal guns and a record for life on the good bad character red tape tick list. this is of cause worst scenario. a lot of girls are of cause very predictable,,, i can run off many i know that would play the dirty card,,,, its just one of those ugly traits of certain characters. but not all are that predictable is the problem,, thats why i always like knowing ones past. prevention,,, been ahead of any dodgy stuff is the only true prevention with anything, seeing those signs. but if paranoia takes over realism then as far as i'm concerned its a dead relationship anyway so why carry on. i have to take lonelys line more then i would like to,,, i really dont know it the effort is worth it. but the mentality of what you ask is very plausible, its how many do live over there, but a heavy hand or the power of money and who you know would have a lot to do with it. theres always a program or app one can use to trace & read users mail and internet directions, it really has the best capability in showing future deceit in any person. one would have to have extreme reasons to use or need such but. i think if i did all his again i would be looking at Poland, stuff russia & ukraine and its visa crap. moyarishka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/28/2013 12:16:36 AM   TS just want a good hooker for free (okay not for free - for food). You know Pat, if you can have children and she wants to have one, she will have it... and after 5 years you'll pay to her :) Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/2/2013 1:45:51 PM   I can see it now, in 5 years..."I met a great woman from Ukraine and she scammed me..." Dude you can find a whore who is hour much cheaper than this will end up costing you. What if she sues you for support? You going to busy out the documents saying you participated in a sham marriage, you know, a felony? Grow up. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/3/2013 6:20:12 PM   Pat, why FSU girls from abroad? There is a lot of Baltics, Polish and Hungarians! And, follow by EU members what are in a chaotic economy like Spain and Portugal. If these scenarios are not enough, by next year, 30m Bulgarians and Romanians are set to gain unrestricted access to UK as EU regulations are lifted.......Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ Ukraine is working on EU membership, (Moscow is mad about this) but maybe in 10 to 15 yrs, Ukrainians will be able to move freely around EU. Don’t know about here, but In the US, is a felony if you participated in a sham marriage. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/4/2013 2:51:39 AM   And what if after 5 years you are the one who wants to maintain the relationship/marriage,,,,, and she pulls out the signed agreement?? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Would this be a 'good deal' for FSU girls?
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