I'm just starting to get to grips with the cyrillic alphabet and suddenly everything doesn't quite look so alien! I feel like a 3 year old again and will be doing my 1 - 10 numbers tonight! ;-)
What problems have others had in learning, potential pitfalls, headaches, suggestions etc to improve your learning? What kind of effort and time-frame has it taken (assuming average ability) to be comfortable with the lingo or be able to get around independantly?
I started learning Russian back in 2001. I've
had classroom as well as self-directed study. Using
the finance.com language scale, I'd rate myself about
My biggest problems have been:
* Stressing the correct syllable
* What case is used for what situation
e.g. words following 'B' indicating location use Prepositional Case,
words following 'B' indicating a destination of motion use Accusative Case;
* Remembering case endings
* Verbs of motion - Russian seems to have 10 to the 23rd words which
mean 'to go' depending on if you're traveling on foot, by car,
within the city, leaving the city, etc.
This is texbook I used. It's written
by Richard and Joanna Robin of George Washington
University. Their website at GWU has downloadable
audio files to go with the exercises in the book.
Lonely Planet Russian Phrasebook
Contains the usual (and some not so usual) words
and phrases for getting around. What's nice about
this book is that it contains 'phonetic'
versions of the phrases, so you can concentrate
more on pronunciation.
Dermo! The Real Russian Tolstoy Never Used
Even if only for entertainment value, this
book teaches the 'proper' way to swear in
Using Russian: A Guide To Contemporary Usage
I can't recommend this book highly enough. It covers
many of the problems native English speakers have with
Time frame: I had two years of classroom instruction, and
currently am trying to maintain and advance my language skills
on my own. I could proabably do some basic things on my own
(order in a restaurant, buy something in a store), but I
still wouldn't feel confident enough to engage anything
My strongest suggestion: PRACTICE! I don't get
to do it often enough, and its evident :-(
Those words are so close to the truth Tim!!!
It really is so funny to hear Inna repeat our quaint local dialect..:)),and a bit of a trial for me too as she has told me on several occasions now that I must learn to speak english!!!!!!!
It's affected me so much I am seriously thinking of losing the curly perm and selling the shell suit..:)
I always said Scousers spoke a different lingo to English :o))
Good one Inna ;o))
When I heard that they were building the new Jag`s near the Pool I had amusing images of Ford fiesta`s, and escorts running around with leaping cats bolted on the bonnets, the most flash wheels imaginable, and bumpers that were about 4 inches too wide to fit the cars they had been robbed for ;o))
But I have to say mate, your good humour, and Del`s too make coming to this forum a real pleasure, and Im sure in time Inna wil teach you to speak English very well ;o)))
thanks for the compliment mate,the feeling here is mutual.The forum here has been a very useful source of info and ideas as we seem to be lucky enough to have a very knowledgeable cross-section of guys from both sides of the pond willing to share their experiences.
That's the main reason Inna reads the posts with me too...(as well as being able to improve her english),and mine too it seems!!!
Even seasoned travellers to the FSU can learn a lot here,as I have found on many occasions,and there have been many times that my lady has commented on this.Even the lowlife that sometimes appear usually realise this quite quickly and crawl back under their respectives stones.
BTW...........the Jag IS built in Liverpool...(Halewood)at the old Ford plant,but only after the site had been upgraded......higher fences,armed guards,minefield etc etc....lol.
and most of the Fiesta and Escort boys now usually use stereos and interiors from Lexus!!!.:)))
For the less knowledgeable about Liverpool:
The chap broken down on the road,bonnet raised,peering at his engine is approached by "one of the lads" who promptly tells the motorist "If you're havin the battery mate,I'll take the wheels".:))))