I do not see the difference in age. You find women of all ages, up to their 50's, who speak little or no English. They do not have any obligation to know English even if they want to move to an English speaking country. There are also many that speak German, French, Spanish and the like.
Almost all Ukrainian women are fluently bilingual in Ukrainian and Russian, which is more languages than many Western men.
Most Western men will speak from 0/10 to 1/10 rating in Russian, myself included.
Without meaning to sound aggressive, if you want a beautiful under 25 year old girl, you pay for the translations and interpreters as well as her English lessons when she is your fiancee and when she is your wife.
Maybe I am lucky, I am dating online a beautiful 25 year old girl who already speaks good English and is learning German added to her Ukrainian and Russian. All these added to her breaking her back working to pay her for her own studies and those of her little brother. I am certainly not going to demand any more effort from her.
I know of three such ladies - all under 18, all from Ukraine. The students these days, in addition to their English classes, have an English club. Two of them competed for the FLEX program (Future Leaders Exchange). Older than that, yes I believe they are a rare find.
you are a hard man Tom, bloody good laugh but,.
put it this way oz, if shes actually helping you in trivial stuff as you say for the sake of it,, she sounds pretty cool to me.
i found all i came across in Crimea time wasters to the extreme.
Thanks for all the reply's. The lady has just turn 23 and lives in the Crimea. she speaks some German, good with English and Fluent in Ukrainian and Russian. all ready made a video for me. asking me to come over all in English which I was surprised how good she went speaking English.
My first reaction was to start paying for a translator to convert the letters to Russian but she refused as she is doing her own by software translator and dictionary and just wanted to learn.
I was worry because theirs a 21 year age differences us. I was not hunting for this age. but she has turn out to be very mature and a few things in common which we enjoy talking on.
I have been burnt by a FSU women in the Ukraine and was lucky that I discovery this site when some of the members here were talking to the same lady.
what are the visa like for an Australian to go there to the Ukraine?
its easy oz, dont worry about that, or even the age,, the worry is more in the red tape and time getting her to yours if it happens.
all i can say is tread carefully and enjoy, dont become emotionally blinded by her in any way.
but you should know this.
once you meet then have a good think about the whole thing where things might go and only then.
just dont go thinking you are lucky yet,, theres so much you dont know, and thats the problem.
but hey you should know all that to..
Crimea is a great place to visit even if things with the girl turns to custard..
Thanks for that info. I'm more now looking past her age after looking at one of Lonelyranger links he post here on the site. it was a good eye opener to how the FSU women think about age.
that is the biggest problem trying to bring back to Australia with all the red tape involve here your right Kiwi. I'm just trying to keep it real and meet up. we did not meet on a dating agency site. it was a like a pen pal and language learning site. it has evolved into now good friend and maybe more.
she was planning to marrying her boyfriend last year. which it did not work out with him because she did not want to start a family so soon and so young. she made that clear but did not put the man down saying he was bad or a drunk.
she is very career driven with her modeling and fitness and would love to travel one day. she now trying to save money to come to Australia for holidays next year. in the mean time I will go and see her for sure she seems like a really nice women.
do you have any idea about a visa for Australian citizen going there ?
i got my Ukrainian visa's through the Ukrainian embassy in Australia,, they have a form you fill in,, check online for it.
send your passport and form to them by courier and its a cool sticker is stuck in, its sent back to you and ya good to go.
good luck with that oz, sounds like a better start then most.
I'm lucky so far. she been a really nice women.I even wanted to buy her a gift for Christmas. she refused to take it. her friend was in a car accident 2 days a go. she did even ask about money for help. she making her own money out of modeling and fitness jobs.
like I said as was worry because of her age of 23 but it been all clear sailing so far. maybe their are still good girls left in the Ukraine.
the problems is the western culture and money is flooding in to these countries causing the girl to look for walking ATM to support their life styles with out leaving their country. time is only running out for any men to find a good women with in the next 5-10 years there.
10 years time you could start seeing dating profiles of FSU women looking for men 10 years younger FSU cougars. :-)
kiwi have you thought of bring a women on a holiday to Australia? as Australia now has E visitor visa now online for FSU women.
no i haven't looked into such..
but you lot do do things a little different to us on many a thing.
for us i think it would be to much of a drama playing with Australian immigration that has NZ involvement from any third world country.
we ran the idea of a transit visa a few years ago through Sydney for her over only some hours,.
she had to stay in some dog box at the airport for the time she was there and that was after sorting out much ridicules red tape beforehand.
a basic transit visa and she couldnt wait in the boarding area like any other normal person ruled out your country for me.
not that i have a love affair with Sydney airport as it is or your immigration lot,,,, they have some serious carrots up their.....
but what you say sounds interesting.
i wonder if this is how Easyriders concern entered your country in another post.
thats great if things are easing up for you lot,,, wishful thinking here..
good luck Oz,,,, i think you are on the money in what you say, all the best..
The laws have change now in Australia. so it easy for you to come here and invite a FSU to come for holidays here in Australia.
From 22 July 2013, citizens of the Republic Belarus, the Republic of Kazakhstan, the Republic of Moldova, and Ukraine, who hold a valid passport issued by their respective government, will be eligible to apply for a subclass 600 Visitor Visa online. Paper applications will continue to be accepted (see details below on how to apply using a paper application).
Visitor visas are for travel to Australia for a holiday, to visit family or friends and for non-work business purposes for a period of up to three month.
I think you right about the Easyriders story.
I'm playing it cautious as I don't want to go down the heart break track. but I do believe this women is very different from other I have meet on the internet. only because we did not meet on a dating site it was a pen pals culture swap site.
she know I'm not rich or drive a BMW. she doe not even talk about these luxury items. but she does love old school American muscle cars. her favorite is the Ford Mustang 69. it funny because it the year I'm born.