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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Dating agency chances of finding a lady ? Author Post ozjohn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2014 6:34:32 PM   I have read a lot of posts here from different users. some are having good success and others are missing out. My opinion is that dating agency are their to make money 1st then 2nd find a relationship for their clients. Group A You finding a Good lady on these sites are 50% chance or less. Group B the other 50% of the ladies are just their for fraud. meaning just making a business out of rookie guys who have never seen a beautiful women and talk like butter melts out of their mouth for then to have money sent to them by you. Now Group A ladies who are good is 50% or less have a lot of guys writing to them. so I women could have up to 10 guys writing to her. and all these guys are competing for one women. their throwing gifts at out her left right and center. that women one have one favorite guy or two who she would keep in her keep bag eg: new future husband. the rest of the 8 guys are their for the milking to take gifts and keep then on the back burner, for just in case 1 and 2 guys turn out to be failures. Group B women we all have been their in the being. the old send me a ticket and the visa money so come and be with you. they are changing now with operation are more turning into a milking operation. and their are plenty of guy willing to fall into this fraud. you guys here could shed more light on this subject. --- Now back to Group A again your chances of find a good looking lady say a 7 or 8 out of 10 is about 5% without children and add other 5% if she has a child. which means that the other 40 % are 6 and 5 or lower with children or no children. you really have to weigh up the costs of chasing a women who is a 6 or below and is having problems understand your language plus the translation letters and the cost flying their to chase a women who may have 10 guys after her. as you can get the same women in your own country for a lot less with the children. some advice think outside the box. look at the pen pal sites or culture sites for learning new countries where their trying to learn a language or country. it won't cost you a cent to talk to a women who trying to learn and who knows you could capture her heart in the mean time teaching her. they all love a guy who has wisdom. I had luck doing this way I found a women who is modeling their in the Ukraine can write a good English letter plus speak it plus I have a 22 year different in age but we get on like a house on fire. and in all the 4 months of knowing she refused to take and small gifts and was will to pay for a visit with her working. just my 2 cents here WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2014 12:21:35 PM   I have to say I am now fed up with statistics, percentages, age ranges, prices, amounts of money, figures more figures (even 2 cents!). That is all we seem to talk about in these forums. After all, finding an FSU wife is about relationships and you cannot put figures on that. People just want to justify everything with numbers. I guess that is why so many men fail to find an FSU wife. I do not see that the ladies at the other end talk in numbers all the time, they talk about emotional stuff (and their version of scamming men). ozjohn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2014 7:53:53 PM   Hi Wifeseeker I found everything has a percentage of chance to success in life. even dating sites that are in western countries or FSU sites. so many men are looking at these sites everyday in the hope. but if you are going up against 10 men all going for the same women. well what is your chance to win it is a percentage in the end. I'm happy now as I did find a nice Ukraine lady who is 22 year younger then me. which at first I was worry of the age different. she doing well over there in modeling and fitness and earns her own money and write, chats in English. I could have not found a nicer lady. but that was after last 10 FSU women on FSU dating sites. the different was that the lady I meet was not on a dating site. so she did not have 10 men chasing her which would lessen my chance to get to know her well so my percentage winning her heart went up. she never put down the local men the only thing is she very career driven in her modeling and fitness. she is 23 year old she does not want children yet want to pay her ticket to come and visit. so more can a guy ask could be more happy in life now. so their are happy ending with FSU women. MagicLove Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2014 2:40:07 PM   WIFESEEKER, you are completely right about statistics. In such things like a search, feelings and love it's impossible to talk with percentages. It reminds me the statistic of chances for girls who join the marriage agency. It was popular many years ago not so now. Each criteria guves +- some chances. Appearance (beauiful) + 35%, pretty +25%, normal - 0%, not pretty -10%, othes criterias were - length of hair, age, children, level of English, figure. So maximum of chances had the lady who is 25-35, with 0 or 1 child, who knows English , who is beautiful with a long hair, and slim. could you imagine how curprised I was to find out last week that one of my ladies got married? They communicated through the agency. She is 52, has got 3 kids, she has a very short (+ red, that 99% of you don't like), doesn't know English well, she is avarage, far from a slim lady... If to believe statistic, she had no chances at all. It's life so your search your fate on the site is a roulette :)) everyone needs to be lucky in it! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2014 3:59:31 PM   In any particular case, you can say you are the exception, and it maybe true. Still, you can't argue against statistics. When you flip a coin, half the time, it will come up tails. When you roll dice, one sixth of the time, it will come up one. You have a trick. You can make it come up the way you want it to come up. It will work. Fine. That doesn't mean it will work for the others. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2014 8:39:54 PM   Dude your "feelings about what happen I don't think are real. The good ones are speaking with 10 other men? Not on fiancee.com. My wife is beautiful, was a model till 28. She is amazingly hot and the absolutely nicest woman I've ever met. In 8 months she got 3 or 4 letters from two other men. They were offering her money to go to them. She refused. E write 450 e mails in 6 months then I went over and met. It was two years later we got married. In that time there was a boot leg profile on anastasiadate. In the total of 2 years,9 months she never got a letter from them. Here's the real numbers. Women who actively us dating services, only 7% ever actually get married at all. So a youcan see 10 suitors actively wooing one woman? Maybe but not likely ozjohn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2014 10:52:20 PM   Hi WF Everything in life has a percentage of Success even in the search of love. if you are talking to a FSU women who has 10 men chasing her on a dating site and all writing letters to her and given gifts, well your odds go down as she has to spread her time to all 10 men. but if you are talking to her on a one on one well you have a good chance to win her over. I found a really great women from the Crimea she a fitness bikini model and who is 23 year old can speak good English and write it with out someone translating it for her. refuse to take gifts or money had some sad stories but never ask money and I'm not even rich and have I have a 22 year age difference to her. the only differences was I was talking to her on a one on one bases. so their is good stories on success with finding a good FSU women. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/20/2014 9:55:28 PM   LOL, ozjohn. I was going to say I don't think she has 10 other men. But,then again, she was likely she paid. ozjohn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/20/2014 10:34:51 PM   Ragingbull is right. it does come down to statistics and percentage chance to win her love. the guys that have won were lucky it could come down to the rights words or how you look to them. their are a lot of guy who will write to 10+ women only because he trying to better he odd on win one of them over. how many guys end up giving a number to go and visit first of the rank the women that thought was good then go down the ladder of their first choice if it did not work out. same with FSU women that would have a first choice of guy too. who they would want to end up with in life. I'm sorry to say it does come down to percentage of chance to fall in love. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/20/2014 11:58:24 PM   Ozj,,, if a girl has 10 men chasing her,,, she has no need to get married, she can just keep riding the wave. If each guy helps her out a little bit, gifts, money, groceries, etc, she already has a nice lifestyle. Tom,,, how would you rate the girl in that photo that I had sent to you?? Would she be average?? She received 2 to 3 letters every 4 or 5 days,,,, not including mine. And she was/is on fiance.com. I also had a VIP membership here, so I was able to see how many letters she received. What would be really helpful,,, is to know how many she sent out??! ozjohn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2014 3:16:53 AM   LR your right about that with the 10 men. if all them are giving gifts and money to FSU women why would you want to leave your country where your family and friends are $USD go a long way there for them. I would hate to see how many letters they are receiving everyday and how they going to reply back everything single guy and try and fall in love with that many guys replying too. the chances and percentage are low. Like I said I think it coming down to try and find them out side agency as it give you more hope to find one that not receiving 2 or 3 letters a day and gifts off men. WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2014 4:34:35 AM   This thing about numbers is funny as well as annnoying. I remember a guy in another thread who tried to put in an equation his chances of success with a girl. Guffaw! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/26/2014 6:43:55 PM   Sure, you have to go with your feelings. So do gamblers. You can be annoyed with it and ignore it. That will be alright. But you can't dismiss it as nonsense as you have done. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2014 12:24:32 PM   Oz with a membership here you can sewer exactly how many letters they got. Why wonder? Just read the number. Also the number I've heard is one man who writes in 10 ever gets on a plane. This is a number I have heard from more than one translator/friend over there. Also the number of women on these sites who ever gets married is 7%. That's from loveme.com. They have no advantage in minimizing their success to their clients. As a result PERHAPS a few 25 year old 10's get letters from 10 sincere men but I sincerely doubt over 1% do. The facts are though even if she it's getting letters from 10 men, you are the only one who will get on the plane, if the one who really is going to come is you. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2014 12:52:34 PM   When I reread the title of this thread I realized something. A dating agency will never find you a wife. Not ever. You must find the wife for yourself. They are just one tool in your project. If you hold the head of a hammer and try driving nails with the handle, you will throw the hammer in frustration swearing that this tool does not work. I am a research scientist. I am very good at reassessing my failures and retrying an experiment over and over fine tuning it each time. When you add this to a knowledge of psychology it is not hard to accomplish your task. It may not work on your first try, or your second, but if you consistently eliminate the root of the problems you have in success, you will eliminate them. My first trip, I nearly starved. I was in an apartment with no stores or restaurants nearby. No way to even take a cab to one, not knowing any russian. I did meet a couple women, but not the ones I wanted to. Failure #1 The next trip I signed up for a tour. This eliminated the not meeting the women I wanted to, it simplified the task of acquiring food, it eliminated the feeling of being alone with no one to even talk with. and it let me hear the POV of men who had been married to FSU women and failed, who had been looking a long time, and who were just beginning like me. On this trip I met no women that had a connection. I met one really fun woman in Poltava, but she spoke no english and the translator cramped my style. The translator by the way was one of the most fun women I have met in my life. We all got really drunk and danced psycho euro dances all night. From this trip I learned that just meeting pretty women was not what I was after and that I should establish a connection to each woman I wanted to meet before I ever left. To fix this I went back to the catalog and picked 40 women to write to. After 6 months I was still writing to 18 or so. With literally hundreds of letters to and from each of the women I had a great feeling about who they were and they knew who I was. the third trip, the first woman I met is the one I married. Obviously not then, but 3 trips later and thousands of letters. A total time spent together of nearly 4 months. SO perhaps you would say I didnt use an egency. I say I didnt expect an agency to do the work for me. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2014 1:22:15 AM   “My first trip, I nearly starved. I was in an apartment with no stores or restaurants nearby. No way to even take a cab to one, not knowing any russian.” Tom,, you are at least the 2nd person that has happened to, I know of another. The main goal of girl and agency is for men to use their services. Once there, you are like a rat in a cage,,,, totally at their mercy. Selkie Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2014 5:40:24 PM   Can a girl have a say, too? :)) An FSU female export... I mean expat – here. (Nice meeting you all.) Must confess – got here accidentally with Google (an abs. irrelevant search btw), was overcome by curiosity, read the thread. Now trying to understand something. What is the advantage of an agency over an international dating site? (Hope it is not too much of a digression) Even if we go utopic and imagine that agencies cared about your prospective happiness much more than about their profits. In any case, that arrangement implies a go-between. Which, to me, opens the door to a third party infuence on the situation. So, what you believe an agency can do that int-l. dating sites cannot? (I must state I have no vested interest in the answer. I do not work for any agency, dating site, or the media; nor am I doing any research. I am simply an FSU woman who chose to steer clear of agencies - cause of that 3rd-party thing. And this strategy brought me a partner I wanted for my entire life. Not right away; first “cross-border partnership” did not work out. But second one was a true hit. And it still is. Just an experience to share. Questions welcome, if any.) lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2014 11:36:26 PM   Selkie,,,, how did you meet your partner, and what country are you living in?? Also,,, where did you learn English? You write better than most forum members! lol Selkie Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/1/2014 6:30:11 AM   Morning LR, (at least it is still morning here where I sit with my coffee) I met my partner through an international dating site. A VERY international one - you could see folk from all parts of the world there. It was a free-of-charge site - and we both tried to convince ourselves we were there exclusively out of nosiness. (lol funny recollecting now) {To be exact, I have been married to foreigners twice, both times through free dating sites. I am now speaking of my 2nd marriage that worked.) I live in the UK - North Scotland. Namely, in Orkney Islands. A veeery windy place, that :) Re English. I am a product of coincidence. I was born into a family that had lots to do with English - mom worked as a tour guide. When I first heard a native English speaker talk, I was 5. (And that was - scary to say how long ago :)) And later in life I have been working as a translator - for years. My professional background is very different from this but alas, it did not pay the bills. So I ended up "lost in translation" :)) But I am still learning the language. Every day. William75 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/20/2014 4:13:10 PM   I am so worry about such meeting, dating... I recently heard about dating site romancecompass.com, there are girls from Russia and Ukraine, I met one beautiful girl and I want to start relations with her. But I am not sure if she really likes me. She offered me to come, but did not tell her address, just city, and this makes me worry. Also that horror political situation. It makes me crazy! Help, guys, what do you think shoud I risk and go there or not? 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