Hi guys!
I am 24 years old and Australian!
So I have been chatting to a lady on a dating site for about two months now, and in two months I will finally going to go over to Ukraine. I have actually been over to Eastern Europe before - just last year - and wanted to visit Ukraine while I was there but just didn't have enough time.
I am only going to meet one lady while I am there. What do you guys think of this? I have read Elena Petrova's book and she strongly recommends this! It makes sense, and I really do agree with her. I am sure that a lady would not be very impressed if she was just one of many that you were planning to meet.
I have read that there are heaps of marriage agencies over there, and it is pretty easy to just walk in and get the chance to be introduced to ladies that would be interested in meeting a foreign man - so I guess if things don't really work out with this lady, then I could check out one of those places. I am really only interested in Ladies at least my age, preferably older - and I think a lot of ladies think that I am too young for them!
I am planning to send the lady flowers for St Valentines day, but she is reluctant to give me her address and told me just to give the flower delivery agency her phone number - I know a lot of you guys would be really suspicious about this, but really, a lady should be weary of giving out her address to someone she has not yet met in person!
There are a few things I am really keen on doing/seeing while I am there - like the Military museum in Kiev, shoot guns, drive a tank (this is possible?), visit Chernobyl. At the moment I have a pretty disposable income, so this makes it easy for me to go overseas a couple times a year.
If anyone has any advice on some cool things to do/see in Ukraine, please let me know! Also recommendations on whether hotels or apartments are the way to go (will probably spend most of my time in Kiev and Poltava), things to avoid, common mistakes, or just anything at all that you think would be useful for me to know :)
I like reading this forum! Any replies/comments are very welcome - especially from any females on here.
Thanks for reading!
P.S - has anyone here used 7roses flower delivery agency?
I have a few place you can find most of the information you need. first easyukraine ( I am co owner) The links page will have some places to rent an apartment since that probably the most cost affective. There is also a tips page and a travel page with information about Kiev.for the shooting I would try the Kyivpost going out guide, I seem to recall an article about shooting machine guns. look at ukrainetravelblog for other travel ideas. Dating agency's are everyplace but unless you speak Russian might be difficult to find. I would ask the apartment rental agency. make sure you stay clear of the main square since its in turmoil at the moment.
your lady that you are meeting should not have a problem given you an address. after 2 months of communications with her. the lady that I'm in communications had no problems given her's as she knows my address here in Australia after 2 months.
Hey,
Bowhunter - thanks mate, I was actually going to PM you to find out your site as I have read other posts talking about it. About the marriage agencies and not speaking Russian - I plan to rely on the internet with helping me find these places (although I am hoping that I get along great with this lady and that I wont need a dating agency)
Ozjohn - hey, well I think it would totally depend on the lady but I can understand completely if a lady would not feel comfortable giving out her address over the internet, there are a lot of crazies out there! I think for a female, it is sensible to be cautious.
Only 2 problems I see, one is age. Very few are sincere till they approach 27+. The other is just because you get along in letters means nothing. Try telling them you are going for just a few days and line up 15. If you hit it of "extend your business trip" if you don't move along. I've tried the one shot wonder. Invasions spending $4500 on a blind date with a pen pal. Oh and don't listen to Elena. She tells you as the woman would want things, but we all know women don't know what they want. You need proof? They all claim to want a nice guy but sleep with the bad boy and complain to the nice guy what jerks her lover is. You should listen to men who are married to Ukrainian women, not women who are married to auzzies.
Yes meeting only one is a good idea as much as a lot of men on this site are worried about scammers women in ukraine are very alert for sex tourists. Irina has a particular dislike for it and she would just scam anyone she thought was there for that. Lots of other Ukrainian women will do the same.
I assume that is not what you are looking for.
I did get Irina's home address within a few weeks of talking to her. You should at least send her flowers or something which can give you an id check at the same time. As much as I believe in giving someone a chance I wouldn't go unless she is willing to give you her home address. Ideally call her on her cell phone also. If she claims she does not have a cell I would be very suspicious as most girls will starve so that can afford one if required.
I was very lucky first girl I met in Ukraine has worked out for me.
At your age there would be so many women available you will be truly blown away. Depending on what part of the country you are going to it be a good idea to know some basic Ukrainian or Russian. If the girl doesn't work out just go out and start talking English to any girl you are interested in. I doubt you will need any dating service help if you are at least average looking, if you are above average looks you will not believe how many women actively hit on you almost anywhere, I am just average and twice your age and I get constantly flirted with by hot girls in their mid 20s and older. It may be different in other areas my experience is in Kherson.
One of the best things about going to Ukraine is that if you have any problems with self esteem because of being emotionally brutalized by trying to date western women having hot Ukrainian women ogle you certainly helps restore your self confidence. I wish I had done this 20 years ago.
Visit Chernobyl? The are has been declared uninhabitable for 100 years
Go to the war museum in Kiev (if it is the one you call the military museum). You won't regret it (and take a few tissues too). The whole park around it is great.
DO NOT try to get the girl to do things with you like shooting guns and driving tanks, you will kill off any chances of romance.
Bring very Australian stuff as presents, like vegemite (OK she may spit it out).
I have been in touch with a lady for a few months, she has given me everything but her home address. That is OK. However, she should give you her address if you are going to see her. Ask her why not, I do not like this one detail. What if you do not find each other or you have trouble? At least you can tell a taxi driver to take you there.
First time, stay in hotels not apatments.
Yes, try to find some respectable agencies, BEFORE you go there, if the thing does not work out with the lady. Many ladies will agree to see you, at short notice, if they know you are already there. Think of a story to tell them as to why you are there. If you tell them that you went to find them because you failed with a lady, it will not sound good.
In Kiev you are going to have to avoid the main avenue and the central areas where there is trouble, this time. They are great but I would stay away.
Anywhere you go, taking a taxi, asking the price of entry to a club, etc. ask the girl to ask for the price without them knowing you are foreign or you will pay double.
Have fun, the weather should be better in a couple of months.
From my look at the awesome website tutu.ru, the train to Kherson (102K) appears to run every day, leaving Kyiv 20:49 and arriving 9:00 the next morning.
There are three levels of service, with ticket prices roughly 10, 15 and 40 Euro. Prices seem to vary somewhat by day of week.
If you can read and type Cyrillic, tutu.ru is a very useful resource.