Newbies from the west should choose Ukrainian, not Russian. In support of economic sanctions, I think that we should not help the Russian economy in any way. It is probably too late for a few who already made their decision.
Or choose Belarus and avoid the whole mess. It Ukrainians in the east that are behaving this way, Pro-Russian and Pro-Ukrainian. A lot of the girls on these sites are from the East of Ukraine and these are their secret boyfriends, brothers etc doing all this stuff. I don't want that DNA in any future children of mine. The women from Siberia, Moscow and St Petersburg don't seem to scam men as much as the Ukrainians do. Ukrainians are looked down upon by basically everyone and I am starting to see why. A lot of work to be done.
Well by scammer DNA I did not mean biology, I meant the culture.
Ragingbull, I think they will get more desperate. The good girls already want to leave, the scammers will accept Turkish, Arabs and other less desirables.
Ukraine has turned into a playground for the Arab world. Hotels are full of them bringing young girls back to their rooms,,, not sure how many are escorts or single girls. They spend big bucks on them to win/buy their favor.
On several occasions during short lived correspondence,,, I’ve had women say, that they had a higher opinion of middle eastern men, than western men. I found this out after telling them to be careful when traveling to any Arab country.
Hearing that they have any favorable opinion about Arab countries, ends the correspondence rather quickly!
Yes, I saw many Turkish and Arabs in Kiev and Odessa behaving in a disgusting way in clubs and bars, then talking girls home. Makes me bulk at the idea of having a Ukrainian girl actually as I will never know what she was up to before she found me.
I've seen those guys in Vodka bar in Kiev. They work in packs. The fact is most of them don't have money whether they're from Turkey or other muslim country. Ukraine girls will never follow them to those countries because they know that they treat women like shit.
Desirable countries are still Canada, USA and Western Europe.
I spent the evening with a woman and her girlfriend. The girlfriend's "boyfriend", as he was called came later. The girlfriend acknowledged that her boyfriend, who came from Egypt, had a few other girlfriends. When he came, since I was renting the apartment, he tried to convince me to get rid of the woman I was with and bring his girls in. He guaranteed me a good time.
Scamming is going to INCREASE do to this crisis in Ukraine. Scammers will say they have no work, no money due to the crisis and scam for money. Why would someone think scamming would decrease due to the crisis?
That is right many Muslims want another wife or mistress in Ukraine ...and Yes we all know what those girls were up to with Arabs and Turkish guys....wait for it....fun time with a lot more desappointments at the end of it. So don't worry! If she had met a such a grotesque reality then we are looking good.
WTF,,, I think the best word to describe it would be manhandling. They treat the women like property, and if the men are loaded rich, the women will throw themselves at them for it.
I haven’t been to any of the super (not supper) clubs in Kiev, but I’ve watched it in small restaurants and bars at hotels.
These women are survivors, and they will do whatever it takes, and have no remorse or regret over it! Don’t even try to question them about it,, because you will be the one in the wrong,,,, in their eyes.
It’s turned my desire away from them too. If you dig long enough into their lives, you will find stuff on most of them that will disgust you,,,, but it’s just another day in the fsu!
A lot of girls just put at the top of their profiles in the dating sites:
NO TURKS OR MUSLIMS
Or: "Turk man, please not bother me"
I have asked some girls why and they say the same thing: they treat girls like shyte.
I have an extremely beautiful Ukrainian friend in Facebook. She accepts all kinds of invitations from Turks and Arabs to be friends. They shower her with compliments, tell her they want to meet her, etc. She enjoys all the attention but is clever, they are all at a safe distance. She never invites any of them to go and visit her.
One Ukrainian girl told me: "Arab men have sent me money by Western Union to buy a plane ticket and go to them, but I am a decent girl and I know they only want me there for a week or so to have sex so I have not even collected the money. I do not want them, they are not serious about marriage, they treat women badly, I would only be one of many" etc.
On her next message she asked me for money to buy a laptop and so be able to communicate with me through Skype all the time. I said "sorry I do not send money". She said: "an Arab would send me the money straightaway". I said "well there you have it....."
"Scamming is going to INCREASE do to this crisis in Ukraine. Scammers will say they have no work, no money due to the crisis and scam for money. Why would someone think scamming would decrease due to the crisis?"
Will they not also be more likely to want to marry and leave Ukraine because of the crisis?