What I found out is about half of them lie about their English ability. For example they write Intermediate English when they have no English at all. This is because they know that most guys will not choose girls with no English.
The other side of that is they write no English, when they really do speak English so they can get you to pay for an interpreter.
Most of mine lied about their English abilities. Girls will claim in their profile that they speak English,, but when it’s time to use it,,, they need an interpreter. The worst city for this is Nikolaev!
A girl named “Val” with black hair, worked as a interpreter,,,, then a year later has no English abilities? A girl named Olga, had an E level of 7,,,, but when planning to meet, insisted on an interp?! I stopped writing to her,,, and shortly after, she changed her E rating to 9?!!
Nikolaev is the city of English schools,,, we occasional get some advertising here on the forum. The more schools that open in Nikolaev,,, the fewer people they have that speak English??!
My ex claimed not to know any English,,, but laughed at my jokes before the interp did?? The next year,,, meeting on our own,,, she spoke perfect English,, with almost no accent! After that trip, I found her résumé online,,,,, Advanced English,,, 2007!! Two years before we met!! Lol
You really need to be able to laugh at this sh!t!!
lonelyranger
"Val" suffered a concussion in an auto accident and lost her language skills in the accident. Olga enrolled in a speed learning English class after you dumped her. :)
My experience has been quite different from Tom's and lonely's.
I don't remember any case, in which a woman I met or corresponded with overstated her ability to communicate in English.
There have been a few, who went the other way -- they minimized their English skills, when I was impressed with how well they spoke.
Unless she is an out-and-out scammer (or has serious psychological problems), I don't see why a woman would paint a false picture about her language ability ... because when it comes to an actual long-distance conversation or meeting, her deceit will be obvious!
Durak,,,, what ever it takes to get men to their city!! Tom and I are speaking of agency girls,,,, most never plan to meet,,, so why not lie?
If you don’t have a real correspondence,,,, on skype or other video phone or chat,,, then you most likely have nothing. When it’s time to meet or time for skype,, they will become argumentative with all of the excuses.
Agency girls are like any other except they have an obligation to earn some money when you arrive. You will find that they charge $5 or $10 more per night than if you arrive in ukraine and look for an apartment. I have no problem with agencies making money, they provide a service. I think i paid a total of maybe $125 extra using their apartment for 18 days. On the other hand, i took my wife or for our first annaversary dinner tonight and spent more than that. I can say with out a doubt I never would have met her with out Julia and the agency in donetsk.
My wife spoke English, rated herself a 7, but showed up with an interpreter to the airport. Yes, she did speak 7 level english but was afraid that we could not communicate. After my first night in her city she told the interpreter that her services were no longer needed. She was only there as a comfort and to know we would be able to communicate. Once her fears were assuaged, it was all cool. When you think about it agencies should make a fair profit too, they provide a service, people must eat. Some places do push to make as much as they can and some do cheat but you can decide what is fair.
On the other hand how many women would give up all they know to depend on a man who would be so cheap he expects people to work for nothing?
The English ability is all over the map from what I have seen, some will say they have none or very little and can hold a conversation. I guess what it comes down to is motivation as in what is her motivation, husband, making money for the agency or getting all she can. I would suggest it is the same in every country.
You know, I’d rather pay the agency 100 to 200USD upon arrival, than wonder during the dates if it’s just to make money. I traveled all the way to Herson, just so the interp could make 95USD! This was for the girl that I had wrote to for a looooong time, should have been a sure thing, but there was no connection at all!! Shortly after, I found her Vk profile, and her boyfriend’s of several years!! There never was a chance,,, but she wanted to continue writing??
One thing about the girls who speak decent English is that they are also going to be more picky about the guys as well as they know they can also get a better guy. No different than the guys trying to find English speakers.
Some of the best girls that I know of that are genuine and willing to date and potentially marry a western guy might know 10 words of English.
many of the 20 somethings have a decent knowlege of English when they are from bigger cities because English has been taught in these places in school for 10+ years now
Most of the women I have met in Russia and Ukraine lied about their English abilities. I did meet two with perfect English, and another whose English was very good. Even though the woman's English is good doesn't guarantee a happy ending. I am still single and looking.
dcguy wrote:""Even though the woman's English is good doesn't guarantee a happy ending."
Looney wrote: "Nikolaev is the city of English schools,,, we occasional get some advertising here on the forum. The more schools that open in Nikolaev,,, the fewer people they have that speak English??! "
Again I find myself needing to repeat this. The higher the english abilities of the girl, the higher her standards will be for men from abroad.
This is a FACT proven over and over again. An English speaking girl isnt going to fall for an American loser.
If a girl has high level of English she is able to operate more independently from an agency. HOWEVER, she is going to have higher expectations from a guy when she knows he is not spending money for interpreters and other expenses. she expects a higher degree of interest from you.
she has taken the effort to,learn YOUR language so she is expecting something exceptional from you in reciprocity. Most pro daters and scammers have a very high level of English and know most American guys are to lazy to learn their language and have the mindset that they are special simply because they are western English speakers.
Looney still brags about how he spent $95 on an interpreter 4 years ago thinking it was a big deal while she still tells the story about the stupid American who came all the way to Kherson....
Rick: “Looney still brags about how he spent $95 on an interpreter 4 years ago thinking it was a big deal while she still tells the story about the stupid American who came all the way to Kherson.…”
Comprehension,,,, it can’t be a Ukrainian thing???!
Brags about 95USD being a big thing?? Wrong!!
The girl in Herson knew nothing about me,,,, but the interp did. She is on a scammer watch list! I was lured all the way to Herson,,, just so an interp could make,,,, 95USD!!
That’s how cold these scammers are!!
The girls in these profiles aren’t worth crossing the road for,,,, so why cross an ocean??!
Comprehension:
Noun[edit]
comprehension (plural comprehensions)
thorough understanding
(logic) The totality of intensions, that is, attributes, characters, marks, properties, or qualities, that the object possesses, or else the totality of intensions that are pertinent to the context of a given discussion.
(computing) a compact syntax for generating a list in some functional programming languages
looney wrote:
"The girl in Herson knew nothing about me,,,, but the interp did. She is on a scammer watch list! I was lured all the way to Herson,,, just so an interp could make,,,, 95USD!!
That’s how cold these scammers are!!
The girls in these profiles aren’t worth crossing the road for,,,, so why cross an ocean??! "
your bitterness is showing! 4 years later and you are still crying about this $95!!!!!
You are probably more bitter than Moochelle Odumbass who never liked America until her lying a$$ Muslim husband took office. Her A$$ has grown at least 2 feet in circumference while in the white house while forcing US school children
to eat the worst lunches in 20 years. You guys most certainly must be FB friends!!!
You have judged 15 million ladies based upon a dozen or so who saw a marshmallow coming from a mile away!!!!!
Noun[edit]
comprehension (plural comprehensions)
thorough understanding
(logic) The totality of intensions, that is, attributes, characters, marks, properties, or qualities, that the object possesses, or else the totality of intensions that are pertinent to the context of a given discussion.
(computing) a compact syntax for generating a list in some functional programming languages
Rick: “your bitterness is showing! 4 years later and you are still crying about this $95!!!!!”
You just don’t get it,, do you??
The 95USD is a “PETTY” amount!!! All of the letters,,,, just so I could fill the dinner slot for the weekend!
This forum sure has it’s fucktards,,,, it’s difficult to gauge the biggest one! But you win this week Rick!!!
You think I am an Obama fan??? Really?? Ask anyone here Fucktard!!!