Profile # 142481 is for Nataliya Rudenko (Nikolaev) who registered on Dec. 24, 2014 and has zero messages.
Anna Petlik (Kiev) has profile # 142489 and registered on Dec. 25, 2014 and has received 17 messages (from the current count information).
Searching for "Strong mentally and physically, kind and smart and adorable! I want to hug you and kiss you all the time and I hope you wont ever be tired of this?: It is not my fault I am so cuddly!!"
I guess that disqualifies me.
"Life with me will be so exciting that you will wonder how did you live before meeting me!"
Boring vs. exciting. I sense a major disparity here.
My mistake! Yes, Anna Petlik's new number is 142489. Her old number, when she registered (the first time?) about August 2014 was 141677.
Alright, I'm gonna try to keep this as brief as possible, but I want to say a couple of things... first, I've visited Kiev two times: once in June of 2013 and again in September 2014. The first time I visited, I only met with one girl (BIG MISTAKE!). Second, in my interactions with Ukrainian girls I've found that more than 90 percent have the "use or be used" attitude.
I also want to give one definition of a scam as it applies to finding a foreign woman. In my opinion, one kind of scam is the girl feigning interest in you in order to obtain some sort of gain (whether monetary or otherwise). Also, Anna gave the age difference statement that ALL Ukrainian girls give: "age is just a number." I'm 55 and, according to her old profile, she claimed to be 26 with a birth date of 8/8/88. Her new profile says she's 29 with a different birth date... go figure.
One more thing: after reading my account of the events surrounding this bitch, some will say, "it was your choice." So be it. I'm only relating this incident to save other men this kind of hassle with Anna.
After meeting with several girls the first few days I was there, I met Anna at the Monaco Restaurant. If not the most exclusive restaurant in Kiev, I'm sure it rates as one of the top ones. She was there with her interpreter. When I first arrived I was immediately impressed with her sweetness and somewhat shyness. I thought, "yep, this is the kind of girl I want." We spent three hours at the restaurant talking about just about anything. I became more and more interested and impressed with her.
Since I was leaving for home in a couple of days, the next day her and I decided to walk around the most ancient parts of Kiev so that she could show me these areas. Again, her interpreter was there. I continued to be impressed by her sweetness.
After spending about four hours together and at the conclusion of this date, I asked her if she would like to pursue a relationship with me. She said yes. At this point, I told her there were two obstacles to overcome: distance and her learning how to speak English. I told her the distance was my responsibility and learning English was her's, though I would help her financially with her lessons. I told her I wanted to buy a computer for her so that she and I could skype several times a week in order get to know one another.
Within two weeks of getting back home (and many, many letters of very pleasant correspondence between her and I), I sent money for her to buy a computer ($550 USD) and money for English lessons ($300). After seven weeks of her supposedly purchasing the new computer, we skyped two times. She continually made skype dates, but broke them. After being stood up the last time with a skype date, I brought this to her attention. She immediately got defensive, called me a pervert and told me I should find a woman more close to my age. She even brought my daughter into this scathing conversation (I share my life with the girls I'm interested in). This was the last straw for this scamming bitch.
In just under five years of searching and with the expense of trips, apartment rental, gifts and living expenses, I've lost about $20,000. I am done!! My subscription to this site expires in mid-January. I don't plan on renewing it.
Judge me. I really don't give a shit. I simply wanted to warn you about this bitch.
Well Rick, I am sorry to hear of your bad experience but it does beg the question of "are you being truthful with yourself in your expectations?"
Yes, it is very true that you will often hear "age is just a number" but you must realize that in reality it is not very much different than in the USA although it can be stretched a lot further, even 20 years is not a very big deal if you are attractive and fit and live an active lifestyle..
I am not sure why she fed you a line about being a pervert unless you have said or done something that you have not shared with us here. Im not sure that I would have bought her the computer and lessons after only 3 days with her. perhaps a smart phone($100-150) first to skype with and see how that goes.
I have often asked to see the passport and even photograph it, of the girl who says she wants to pursue relationship. A viable and acceptable excuse is that if you are going to send money, you want to be sure of all details when sending in case there is a problem.
i guess the lesson to learn is to not be 'in love" after only 2 dates. Relationships with these girls takes time, just like in the US. Doesn't mean you should quit your quest but learn from your mistakes and be smarter. Based upon your statement of spending $20,000 in "just under five years" Is it correct to say that you have come to Ukraine 3 to 5 times during these past 5 years? No offense, but once a year just isnt going to work out for any girl wanting a serious relationship.
Im not saying you MUST do this but your success depends on it. You need to decide if a Ukrainian girl is what you really want. If it is then you need to
commit more time for that quest. Just from a mathematical equation, just to meet an actual genuine girl you need to double or triple your investment in time to meet the right one. You need to learn the basics of language. Pimseular and Rosetta stone are small investments of money for this purpose. a 90 DAY COMMITMENT OF 1 TO 2 HOURS doing BOTH courses PER DAY is a minimum requirement to show a potential mate that you are serious.
A common theme of guys who are having problems in their quest is that they expect a girl to know English but yet make no effort to understand her language, history or customs. I can PROMISE you this one thing, 90 days of language learning and reading about customs, traditions and history of Ukraine will impress a girl more than anything else you will do to achieve success.
before you come next time, research restaurants and other attractions that can be date ideas. She will be impressed by your knowledge and ability to suggest something.
unlike some negative people here, I really do want guys to find success and genuinely want to help. Unlike some posters here who havent been here in 4 years and some others who only come once a year, I am in Ukraine more than 4 months a year in my work. I meet people "organically" at supermarket, restaurant, mall, etc. I can GUARANTEE YOU that unless some local dynamic is at work, you WILL NOT HAVE SUCCESS with a girl more than 18-20 years younger than you.
Dont blow your money on a fantasy (unless you are pursuing that fantasy by the hour. I know more than a few very hot 30 somethings that will blow your mind
and will make you a happy man in all aspects of life.
"...according to her old profile, she claimed to be 26 with a birth date of 8/8/88. Her new profile says she's 29 with a different birth date... go figure."
This site says the profile is verified through a personal phone contact. Well, just talking to someone really means nothing. As most everyone has said before, emails, phone calls, video chat, and even face to face meeting does not guarantee the identity nor intentions of that person.
I think many go there in the belief that they are going to "improve" the situation of the lady who you are preparing to become your wife. This is a seriously wrong view of dating. I am NOT going to "improve" the situation of any local lady who I date so I am NOT going to do that with someone overseas. I understand the distance problem, the language problem, the culture problem, the education problem, the tradition problem, the ethnic problem, the economic problem, the age problem, the personal habits problem, etc. I am not going to portray myself as a "savior" or "royal prince".
This has some similarities with the profile, 4re_geo, experience earlier this year. The unfortunate truth of the matter is that many people involved in the dating industry (and even the social media websites) are just grifters. Just like some rare coin salesmen, car repair shops, financial advisors, etc.
I second that motion, from LR for Rick 1027,,,, you should do a retraction for the girl with the number (142481)" prejudice should not be inflicted on the inocents till proven guilty.
DC, if you see nothing but problems and you cannot be a solution than what kind of guy are you?
Gents, let me add to your comemts...
If you are D'man that takes upon this mission, the difference between failure and success are way different than " I did my best" versus " I got taken for a ( blank ).
Notes outa my playbook...
Do's
Ask for ID, and/ or passport.
Skype/ Viber video chats at any time, any where.
Stablished a relationship before committing to meet up.
If she is not available before, she would not be available after!
Don'ts
Rush to book a flight
Believe that you are the only one
Buy/ bring anything she wants for her only.
RETRACTION!!! This thread is about 142489, Ann Petlik the scammer. NOT about 142481 Nataliya Rudenko (Nikolaev) though anyone with half a brain could quickly figure this out.
Who can afford to spend four months a year in a foreign country? That's crazy! Good luck to all you dudes that added your comments. I'm done with this bullshit.
This website does not have a "scam" reporting link. I guess you have to contact the customer service link. However, I am sure that you will need some kind of "proof" to back up your statements about a particular profile. That would require some one who had direct contact with the lady.
Rick1027,,, your very first post should be removed,,, not the whole thread! You have the wrong number in your first post,,,, someone might only read the first few posts and come to the wrong conclusion!
“Who can afford to spend four months a year in a foreign country? That's crazy! Good luck to all you dudes that added your comments. I'm done with this bullshit.”
Don’t pay any attention to the other Rick! Would you be surprised to know,,, that he shares half of his DNA with the agency girls???
Grrrrr! I meant - it doesn't matter how old you are. (Age is a #) JUST MAN UP! Or should I had implied; look upon your b/day suit and check which type of pairs you have and act accordingly. Sensitive guys and half-brainiers are swallowed upon arrival at KBP/ KIV/ MSQ / DME / BOG / MNL / BKK / JFK. Or they stay back home writing letters and chatting ( typical keyboard Romeo ) for years and years.
Like many traffic signs here says " THINK! ". But,,,use your big head located right on top of your shoulders.
“Who can afford to spend four months a year in a foreign country? That's crazy! Good luck to all you dudes that added your comments. I'm done with this bullshit.”
Dude,,, you or almost anyone could live in Eastern Europe, SoEast Asia and Lat America with less then nothing. Plenty of Job/ business opportunities overseas.
What is "crazy"? Is thinking that women from overseas are better than the local women... look up the HOT CRAZY MATRIX on youtube, it applies everywhere. Just find the one you can handle LIKE A BOSS!
Happy New to all may 2015 be the year of less biotching and success.
Rick1027 wrote:
“Who can afford to spend four months a year in a foreign country? That's crazy! Good luck to all you dudes that added your comments. I'm done with this bullshit.”
Sorry dude, if you cannot make the commitment to a girl then why on earth should she make a commitment to you?
spending One or 2 weeks a year with a girl and thinking skype will carry your relationship is a fools errand.
If you cannot make the commitment of time to a girl then you are better off trying your luck back home.
just for sh#ts and giggles, try dating a girl in the US once every 6 months and see how far you get with her,
pick a dog-azz ugly fat girl too that no one wants and even she is going to tell you to F#ck off if all you do is talk for 6 months.
why would you expect a beautiful Ukrainian lady to wait every 6 months or a year to see you again?
what does it cost to live in ukraine????
$200/ month for 2 room apartment
$150/month for utilities, mobile phone, internet, cable...
$100/month for transportation, taxis, bus etc
$300/month to eat like a king 2 or 3 times a day plus basics necessities
$200/month to go out twice a week
$200/ month to get laid once a week if you still cant find a girlfriend
so less than 1200/mo or what most Americans make on SSI you can be middle class in Ukraine
and want for nothing!
so to answer your question of who can spend 4 months in a foreign country? damn near anyone!
you have to be doing EVERYTHING wrong if you cannot find a girl in ukraine!!!!