For Petes sake guys.
We are on the same team here. You two are the most knowledgeable on this forum... you should work together. And stop tainting this post with a personal battle of who is right.
I truly appreciate you taking time to write and read my lengthy posts. But either help me or don't.
End this now please.
Let me ask you this.
This lady I am dealing with is a celebrity there. She has one a Miss Ukraine XXXX contest, and is a popular TV host. She has money .. easily tell from her vacation trips, her posh restaurant visits, clothing etc. etc.
and it is obvious if the whole Boris and Gia thing is true.... she will get caught. Why would she risk her career doing this? She is a public figure.. I dont care for answers that bluntly ignore this fact.. saying... ohh they dont care money is money.
There is no way. She wouldnt ruin he rpublic image for this.
Again... I know this looks like me trying to convince myself it is all real because I want it.
I am not one of those.. I seriously look at facts. I WILL admit when a fact makes her look like a scammer... but I also will give credit to facts that make er look real.
This is a big one. There is obvious proof she (Gia) is involved in this... she can not say "ohh my pictures were stolen".. as the website's validation process is having the girl on video interviewing... and she is there accepting flowers and gifts as a picture is taken of her.
So there is concrete proof she is involved in this if this thing is shady.
now.. I want to throw away all suspicions of human trafficking .. forced to do this .. stuff.
Like I said.. she is a celebrity, travels ... just got a visa to the USA....
I know it is easy to quickly say "ohh the second something smells funny.. it is a scam".
But this is not true always. Plenty of cases where it just was not the case. (and more cases where it obviously IS the case)... I know.
Hell you are so wrong LR that there are no tourists. This is the time to come here because of weak currency. Everything is cheap here - hotels, restaurants, taxi, even your prostitutes (which I have no intention of using).
actually Tom the answer is yes, some like her will although the average price on sites such as this one are
closer to $100/hr for foreigners.
There is a place in Odessa near the port across the corner from a restaurant that usually has 12-20 girls for you to chose
on any given night. $50/hr for locals and $100 for foreigners. then there is another place to the west of the center about 4km that is
primarily for locals that averages about $40/hr. some arent so hot but a few are quite hot.
The site mentioned by looney actually comprises of a website where local "agencies" post their ads but you deal with the actual agency and girl
for the actual transaction. the agencies/girls pay a fee to the website for listings.
keep in mind the girl is actually only making half that. her "agency"(read pimp) takes half for their cut and to pay off local police to avoid
From my remote location on a Pacific island I'm not in a position to assess tourism in Ukraine but I have a sneaking suspicion that it being all over the world news that Ukraine has a civil war whilst Russia has invaded it might just be having an impact.
I recall, back in the old days, a Ukrainian lady wanted to take her American (in his 40's or similar) on a holiday to Turkey (where they all go). ... American man called home to his mom who forbid him to go because Turkey is next door to the middle east and all sorts of atrocities might befall him being an American citizen ... LOL
TomZ,,, what good do escorts in Kyiv do for me?? Haven’t been there for a couple of years,,, and it could be a couple more before I return.
I spend almost no time searching these days,,, but I did years past! I found it to be a useful tool.
“First MartinPC says there is an influx of tourists because of the lax visa rules”
Wasn’t he referring to years ago when they first changed the visa rules?? Kyiv might be busy, but southern and eastern cities are suffering.
Seventeen is legal there,,, for locals and non Americans.
“LR, I am not sure with what you mean with sign.. and looking her up. Maybe I was not clear in my previous message.”
“she accepted my gift 1 hour before she updates her VK page with a picture of her at the airport saying "xxxxx here I come"“
I‘ve seen a photo of a girl at an airport,,, with a sign or message written on the photo saying: xxxxx here I come! I think it was Paris or London??
I spent over an hour trying to find it,,,, a link would help!!
One thing for all of us to remember,,,, the women that make this dating their career,,,, interpreters, translators or pro daters, do this up to 8-10-12 hours a day, 5 to 7 days a week! They have seen it all,,,, from all countries, all tactics. Anyone who thinks he is getting the upper hand over them,,, is most likely wrong!
I saw it from the other side within a dating agency, staff typing letter after letter yet not one of the ladies in sight, the staff were replying to the punters on pay-per-letter sites.
Then those that say "I was just here visiting your beautiful country" ... who in their right mind would describe Ukraine as beautiful and take a vacation there unless there are women involved?
These Ukrainian women and agencies are way ahead of the men, each man may travel there once or a few times each year, as LR points out these Ukrainians are working it pretty much every day of the year, think they haven't seen it before? ... They have!
I found Uzbekistan to be a "off the beaten track" place to go, visa's were/are a nuisance to apply for so that eliminates all these amateur daters, but there are/were plenty of available women there and have probably barely met a westerner.