"IF you stay in ukraine long enough, you start to meet girls "organically" or just as you would at home. If you go the "agency route", chose wisely and stay focused.
No matter wiwhich route you take, you must plan to spend some time with the best prospect out of however many you plan to meet.
Relationships, no matter the composition, take time to develop. Dont spend all your time chasing maybe's. make sure you plan enough time to explore a potential relationship."
Sorry,, but don't often read here anymore, as I have a busy life together with my new Ukraine wife and our children.
Looking at the situation in the world today,,,,,,
this must be the best time ever in history for an ordinary "aged" man to find a good woman 10-20 years younger, for a great and loving relationship.
I had two longtime (10+ years) relationships with truly wonderful women in my earlier life, and have just started on my third one in the last year.
But I never had such possibilities as now, for finding exactly the kind of a woman I wanted to find, in regards to personality traits, intelligence, figure, sex, and so on.
In many ways I can only envy those being 20+ years younger than me, the opportunities they have in these days for finding that "special one" of their dreams.
When finding my previous Ukraine wife on the Internet 16 years ago, it was very different from today, where you have an endless amount of women to choose from.
With the help of todays Internet based dating sites, you can pinpoint exactly what kind of woman you want, and then easily get in touch with a large number of such women.
Later,, after writing and Skyping for a while, you can easily travel to meet with a selected list of prospects that you now feel comfortable with.
These are women that are exited to meet with you also, and all of them fulfills your initial search criteria in regards to language, education, weight, height, and so on.
In my opinion an almost unbelievable fantastic situation, for a man who knows what he wants, to go out there and just grab it.
looking at the present situation, I would totally forget about Russia, and concentrate on Kiev with a radius of 100 - 200km around it.
Based outside Kiev, with a rental car, you would have easy access to more than fifty thousand women who are considering a foreign husband in this area alone.
Here is a link to my previous posting about dating sites, and it is still absolutely valid:
northkape most excellent, thank you so much for helping me and responding to my question, it was very helpful.
I gonna doing my own quest this year, I gonna be emulating you as best I can.
I need help with car rental and were to get accommodations both hotel and short term apartments, any good websites you guys can recommend for Kiev that are not rip off foreigner prices?
One question I have of you northkape, is that how do you deal or hide the fact that you are going there to find your mate and maybe dating and seeing lets say 5 girls, can any one tell me how to handle this because if they find out you are meeting a few girls it could be alot of trouble, they could be upset, jealous etc. I heard they gonna be asking alot of questions as why you are in Ukraine etc etc, and were you going and all the rest. So what I gonna say or what is the plan to say? What about arrival dates to the country that you tell them etc, I need some help with that part. Maybe say you gonna be there for a week, then see the next one? I plan on going for like 5 months, I gonna take my time and enjoy the courtship))))
I was able to read the OP commentary about his marriage and dating ventures going back to the previous century. What a LONG read. He was recently married for the third time to someone 27 years younger than him. His second wife (married 13 years) was about the same age difference when they married. And I believe his first wife was from his native country. He got twin sons from his second marriage and it seems that his second wife was the one who decided to split apart. Then she assisted him with his dating for the replacement wife. A lot of negative comments about her doing that for him (especially from females). He dated women with a specific age range and age of any existing children. He dated a lot of women in Ukraine, but found his third wife as an after thought. A rather unusual way to find a new wife by having your soon to be former one to act as a matchmaker. There were some issues involving the new wife and his twin sons (he had custody), but that is to be expected. I think the second wife decided to live on her own and no longer saw eye to eye with him. Some people change over time. His third wife (with a daughter) seems to be a better fit for him.
Thx dcguy for going above and beyond.. I only agree with him that " if you are a decent man, finding a good woman....is relatively easy ". Just like a decent man can smell scammer so are the good women see through sex tourists.
I think he needs to learn how to write like an American?
ďI am American guy lived in Ukraine for 4 yearsĒ
Most likely written by someone from the FSU.
Itís text book propaganda from the agencies too.
While I agree that many do look good,,,, it does come from a bottle.
The part about them never arguing, or are not demanding is total bunk!! And then thereís honesty?! I have found them to be the most secretive and deceiving women around. If telling the truth serves their purpose, they will tell the truth. If they need to lie, they will do so without thinking twice.
An entertaining read, KoolsM. But you are not who you say you are, so why lie about it?
Lonelyranger is 100% right. Your English is very good, but you are definitely not American, or from any English-speaking country. If it was you who wrote your post (and not copied), your manner is that of a female, an agency worker, probably Ukrainian, and from one of the agencies that use this site. You've got something to sell.
You might be taken more seriously if you were more honest about who you are, and the purpose of your message. Fortunately, male users of this site have the choice to write to women with private e-mail addresses directly, and thus avoid agency tricksters.
KoolsM, you will have better success if you become an affiliate with some of your like-minded colleagues at AnastasiaDate, HRB/RLM, or Army of Brides, etc.
No disrespect but there is a bit of exagetion for categorizing AU/RU women. For my experience, it's a hit or miss. I could say the same for the girls a met in Bulgaria, Romania , Italy and even from the Philippines.
Iíve been here long enough to identify bogus posts, whether itís an agency or the websites trying to promote the status quo.
If the agencies and websites want to promote their business,,, fine, but they should do so, in a way that shows their progress in fighting scammers, the ways that they are attracting women that actually want to find a foreign husband. Perhaps showing their real track record,,, the number of successful marriages lasting more than 3 years, etc, etc!!
"the number of successful marriages lasting more than 3 years, etc, etc!!"
Same reason why those "get rich quick in real estate" telemarketers do not provide proof of the success of their program other than those "testimonials" you see on the infomercial. When the product produces very little examples of actual success, you have to invent some on your own or nobody is going to buy it.
With dating, there is this image of "one size fits all". In reality, life is not fair.
And the same reason most agencies are dating agencies and not marriage agencies. The girl just needs to show up to have a date,,,, hey, another successful date!
Some people say that foreign marriages have a better success rate than domestic,,, and that might be true,, for the first year or two. After the third year they take a real nosedive .