I just new to this dating online with FSU women, but been going to years to Asia to date the girls there..
I noticed something that is starting to come up while talking to the girls from Eastern Ukraine
,alot seem very desperate to get out of the country do to the war being right at their door step and the hyperinflation etc.
After like 1 to 5 weeks of writing, some of my girls started saying they want me to invite them to my country so we can met, and when I said I will go their in a few months to meet them they don't like and say things like "you want to see Ukraine or to meet me?" They get very abrupt were as there other letters were so sweet. One also told me "we have to meet right away, since one meeting is better than a million emails" and this was after just knowing this one for a few weeks. The thing is though these girls earn $80 a month at present currency exchange rates, how can a girl earning this come to my country to visit me?
Yes all of a sudden alarm bells are going off, as they told me after such few weeks they love me so much, and can't sleep at night since they think of me all the time, and there little heart races when they see a new email from me after my 6th email to them, And how they want new life with me and yada yada yada... Two things come in my head.
1) How easy is it and what is for them to get a passport and visa to my home country of Canada? Can they get one at all without putting up property and big time assets? And if they can what is the maximum amount of stay they could stay in Canada on a tourist or some sort of vacation visa, and does anyone have web links on this since I can't find it anywhere?
2) How can she afford to come on such a small salary... I just waiting for her to ask me for the money so she can "finally be with her man" This is what I fear they will ask me for. Keep begging to to invite them to my country, they might say "you invited me, so now you have to pay, and send money to western Union in Luhansk))))"
I used to write to Asian women for years, a few times they asked me to visit them etc after a year, but none of them ever asked right away and never and offer to come to my country to visit me.
These ladies I am writing to come from the eastern part of Ukraine close to or with in a few hundred kilometers of Luhansk, and we know this is a scamming hot bed...
I also found this post in this forum were a guy called "Latinospanish" mentioned similar requests from ladies that I been getting, and they soon disappeared after he failed to grant their requests to meet right away and for the lady to come to him...
One of the girls tried to tell me me why she has no skype, and why they have no skype or web cams in internet cafes..
"sweetheart and now just imagine to install internet in the house is
worth $ 600 to buy a new laptop beech is also worth about $ 600-700
An Internet café have, but why do you think that there is Skype?
Internet cafes are designed to search for information, as well as to
play online games. But the use of cameras in public Internet cafes, is
a violation of human rights! because the camera can get a different
person and a violation of human rights!
but just think about it, to spend the night in another city, where
maybe I can find the camera, it is necessary to stay in the money and
the way the food and internet cafes. This is really very expensive.
so I use that I have. I have internet at work and has a post office.
in this, I hope you will no longer be issues with regards to Skype!
I think that it would be very romantic evening walk on the beach,
picnic, watch the sunset, what do you think?
I would very much like to walk hand in hand with you
it would be very nice))))
kisss"
What to guys think of this? More bullshit or what?
You should check with the Canadian immigration websites regarding foreign visitor requirements.
Travel visa scam is very common. There was a local panhandler who stood at intersections asking stopped cars for money. At the end of the day, someone followed him and he went to his nice car and apparently drove him. I guess the charity money was equivalent to his daily take home pay. Usually nearly impossible for someone overseas to travel to North America unless they meet certain financial requirements.
BTW, so far from my contacts on this site have not included anyone in far eastern region of Ukraine.
Some of the others have written here that it's impossible to visit Donetsk and Lugansk area and almost impossible for them to get out. So you just have to write those in war torn areas off.
Yes, you are being set up to send money and in the end you will get nothing.
Tommy, ANY girl that will profess her love after a few emails and you have never met them is surely a scam.
It is easier for them to come to Canada than US but even then there are strict requirements that most wont meet.
Because of the war and economic situation, MANY girls want to leave with the first guy who will show an interest and give them money.
DO NOT FALL FOR THIS!!! IT IS ALMOST CERTAINLY A SCAM. I am Ukrainian and I know better!
Better that you come here to Ukraine and meet them in real life and separate real from fake because many are not genuine girls.
It will be a difficult search to find real girl who will love you for your own strengths and personality and not just money.
Biggest problem now in Ukraine is Russian supporting Donbass girls who just want to rob you when you are most vulnerable. No girl from
this region can be trusted. They are either desperate or scammers. These girls can pretend easily to love you for months, hoping to get something from you.
they will profess their love and say they will make good wives in your country. Better to visit Ukraine and develop genuine relationship and see what happens over several months.
GO SLOW. scammers are often not too patient(some are)and will not wait 6 months for real relationship to develop.
If you wish simply to have fun? that is easy! A real relationship will take much time and effort.
You must take the time to discover her character and personality in all situations.
Please come and visit but keep an open mind and realistic expectations. No REAL marriage comes from a vacation to Ukraine
This guy seems to have had similar experiences to what I am going through, his comment is from a post on this forum, but for some reason I can't link to the exact page so I just gonna past it below for you here to see.
"hi iam Mark from san antonio texas Iam tall 6feet i consider my self handsome well i have met to russian woman on a dating site on different times both have told me the same story the first one told me she had one parent that her mom died of cancer and thay she was very loney after 4 weeks of communication she told me I love you and iam ready to leave everything behind for you so i told her wait please you are taking evrything so fast let us know each first at least 6 months and i will get you to my country and she replied Iam sorry but i cant wait 6 months please dont write me no more i was shock with her answer than i said to my self well iam going to try again so i met another russian lady and she told me that her dad and mom died of cancer and that she was raised by her aunt and that her xboyfriend used to abuse her verbal and physical and i feel sorry for her but the same thing in 5 weeks of communication she told me iam ready to go with u my love so i said to her to wait 6 months and she replied You dont love me i hate you dont look for me nomore now i have been communicating with a girl from ukraine for at least 5 months and she is saving for visa and pasaport she doesnt want that i waste money or think that she is a gold digger but i want to send money to her but she doesnt accept now she is waiting for visa and yes we are both real"
oh that's sooo funny :))) sure they all are scammers :))) if a girl say she doesn't have a web-cam, just start looking for another girl (even if this was a genuine girl without a web cam it's like 5% chance that she's not a scammer). There are millions of women to choose from, so choose those with web-cams at least you'll know you're not talking to a guy :)
And yes they will ask you to send them money to get to Canada and they won't go to Canada after you'll send it :)
I'm sorry but Where is the scam??? Sad stories.....a women professing love quickly.....wanting to meet quickly...
Potentially, yea it may lead to asking for money and THAT would be the scam IF she doesn't do as she says.
Tommy, I bet this girl/s you speak of look beautiful, have tons of pics to see and have sent you, really too good to be true, some bikini shots, sexy outfits...........it is just show and tell. Just find an older girl not as attractive( sans boobs hanging out or legs apart) , maybe with a kid....just so she can be more normal/real!!!
I wonder what percentage of girl in Ukraine have a smart phone? I know in even poorer countries like even Philippines, all girls have a smart phone, and the wages for a teacher there is $100 a month., Yet in Ukraine all the girls I talk to none have even a basic smart phone, webcam or skype, so this tells me that they are hiding behind fake pics stolen from another site most likely vk.
In the future if the girl does not have at least one of the following..
skype with webcam or a smartphone, I will not even talk to them, is this being unfair and not realistic? At least this way very fast I can see if they are the person in the pictures or not.
I give it a few emails to see each other, if not goodbye...
Lots of foreigns thinks that young beautiful models should date them just cos they are foreigners :))) if she's out of your league in your country she'll be out of your league in another country also :)
The problem is that many men think they can "hit the jackpot" in another country because the women there are more "desperate" than in their home country. The romance socials play into the dream of theirs.