I watched a documentary on American women who consciously choose to be submissive to their husbands. Submissive relationship = man is provider, protector, leader, inspires respect, has the final say, makes all the decisions, woman is there to help and facilitate his decisions, woman is always in mood for hot sex when hubby desires it (whether she's in a mood or not), she's the perfect housewife, etc. In sum, woman is a whore in the bedroom and a lady outside of it. I must admit I was surprised and a little jealous of these men. Apparently, it is becoming a trend in certain parts of the country. American women were like that in the 50's, then the lib's got hold of them and corrupted them with the feminism and crap like that.
Ukraine women are supposed to be submissive, but I'm not feeling it with the women that I communicate. A UW that I dated last summer was supposed to be submissive, she didn't exactly turn out to be one. Are Ukraine women really submissive or is it all a gimmick to get American men interested in communicating and visiting them?
4re,,, How you described the “perfect housewife” is almost word for word, what I heard on the radio a couple of years back. It sounded like a talk radio show/church service with a black pastor or minister. He quoted bible passages/verses that stated a woman’s role in life is to be a man’s helper,,,,, his wellbeing should be the source of her pride. That way of thinking has been long gone,,, perhaps women are learning that work is hard?
Our women wanted their equal rights after WWII,,, they discovered a new world when entering the work place,,, replacing the men that went to war. In my area, we made Submarines, minesweepers, Oshkosh truck, ammo, guns, small APCs, etc. I remember a PBS show on shipyards,,,, women, farmers, orchard workers building submarines,,,,,,,, made on time or sooner,,, under budget,,,, and made right the first time.
“Are Ukraine women really submissive or is it all a gimmick to get American men interested in communicating and visiting them?”
For the most part,,,, Yep! They gained equality during the internet age,,,,, they know what is out there! You might find a few in the smaller villages,,,,, how is your Russian/Ukrainian??
This is a good point here. Yes, Ukrainian women are about as submissive as European women.
A pro-dater is not going to be submissive because she's got to be able to take control and get you to do what she wants. Just like what happened before in Ukraine 4re_geo.
Very good. A pro-dater actually makes you submissive so she can't be submissive herself (as she should be).
You've got another pro-dater on your hands 4re_geo.
One thing I've noticed about victims of pro-daters is that they always gravitate back to pro-daters for some reason.
4re_geo what these companies are doing is using the marketing of "Ukrainian women are submissive" (which is true) to draw you in.
But once you get there they can't be like that if their scam is going to work. They've got to be the dominate to make you do what they want and you become the submissive.
lonelyranger1701: It was actually the first episode of a new reality show on TLC, the original air date was 2015. For the reasons you mentioned, it is pure lunacy to even consider bringing an RUW to the states.
TomZ: Are you speaking from your own experience? Could you put your words in the context of your many experiences in Ukraine? (specifics please)
Yes a lot of Ukrainian girls are submissive. But i doubt they date foreign old men. They get married before they turned 25 and have kids with their Ukrainian husband.
moyarishka but most of the Ukrainian husbands drink a lot and cheat on their young Ukrainian wives. And also they don't have a lot of money. That's why Ukrainian women turn to foreigners for the most part.
If women have been falling all over you at home then why do you have to go to Ukraine at all? And why did you strike out 3x when you did go to Ukraine?
moyarishka: I agree, the submissive ones are taken when they are young by the local guys. The older women on the web sites (25+, 30+) already had enough crap from Ukrainian guys and are not into submission. This is why I see no reason for bringing a Ukrainian woman to the states. Essentially, what you'd get is an "American" woman or a woman that in all likelihood will turn out like an American woman at some point plus you have all kinds of other issues including language, culture, immigration, not enough time to get to know each other, etc. Why people even bother beats me ... The only option that makes sense remotely is to decide to live part of the year in Ukraine and maintain one or multiple girlfriends. But this scenario requires that one actually likes to be in that country. I cannot envision traveling multiple times let alone living there just for the prospect of meeting women.
"If women have been falling all over you at home then why do you have to go to Ukraine at all?"
See how you make up things? Just where and when did you see me state that women have been falling over me? Do you see me going to Ukraine?
"And he's jealous that I have a girlfriend."
Ha ha ha ha ha ha..... I am jealous of a liar that's the best one yet. Let's see. What can I make up so others will be jealous of me. Ha ha ha ha.
Again, you have nothing and therefore you make things up about others.
"And why did you strike out 3x when you did go to Ukraine?"
Me, explain myself to a liar so he can make up more lies? You wish I struck out. To you everyone strikes out because you are not satisfied with what you are.