Most guys have known me on this site for over 14 years....I started same as most on the big sites but soon left ..I used Army of brides ..A bad site and left ...I did meet a girl who introduced me too free Russian and dating sites ,I have never looked back ...Its was like a sweet shop.... I met so many and had great nights and slept with so many beautiful girls...I could pick who I wanted too see again,Maybe have a vacation with them...Over all them years Ukraine is like a second home ..Kiev I know all the good bars and clubs ...I think the last few years it has changed for the worst for the girls...Maybe because of the war with Russia .Not may Foreigners are travelling ..A few things in Ukraine you should know ....The wages have dropped,A lot of major EU companies have left so Ukraine is struggling in outside investment more than before ...So if you meet a girl and you like her.If she she is lucky she will have a job,But very low income.But most dont .... ...Expect you should support her ...This is normal ...
I had said before. Looking/ connecting the odds are in your favor but for the right woman on paying or free sites is either a hit or missed. The average salary is $400 a month or lower. The employed work force is mostly highly educated.
"As I live in Ukraine. I can tell you this is how we actully live. It's not some crazy joke or shocking experiment. In Zaporozhye where I live average income per month is 100 USD. This a not if you wash floors (then you get less), this is how much I would get if I agreed to work for IT company as a support manager. Which I surely said NO to, because I can't survive with this income. That's why, here people have to buy and sell things online, wear same cloths for years, buy stuff at second hand, and basically live a very poor life. If you don't have a rich family. I have master's degree and huge desire to work, and manage at least 3 jobs to support myself. So, Ukraine life sucks. I am writing this to all those men who think this article is an exaggeration. I am not POOR compared to other people around me, actually I am doing good. I have Iphone! Which I bought by taking a credit in bank and paying 12 months for it. Our main task day to day is to find enough money to buy food, medicine (which is not free here) and pay bills so you still have light and central heating.
Just to let you people know, this is reality. I know its hard to comprehend how it is possible in a country that looks fine from pics."
By the way... Most people of the x-USSR don't pay for rent or a mortgage like we do on the west. However; you will be shocked to see new BMW or the streets ...
Your figures don't compute with my figures of Zaporozhye of some ten years ago.
My ex took an English & German language teachers course at university, when I asked her, some ten years ago, why she didn't take up teaching at the end of her course she explained that teachers were amongst the lowest paid at circa USD100 per month and she wasn't happy to work for that ... When we later discussed it she told me that teachers salaries had increased upon the USD100 per month and that was circa 10 years ago.
OK my memories have faded but I recall O'Brien's Irish Pub, the wooden (Siberian style) lodge restaurant on a corner that sounds like it begins with a "Z", "Zieemcar" or something like that, the fish restaurant beside the river just upstream from the dam, the Cossack National Restaurant on the island, the American themed restaurant that serves shite food on the main drag, often these places would be busy so there is/was money about.
"often these places would be busy so there is/was money about." The money does not trickle down to the poorer people.
In Ukraine the rich get richer and the poor stay the same level or they can gradually have something a little better but it takes a lot of time. That's for the honest ones.
The quote that I referenced is by a lady who lives in that city who posted it a few days ago. Whether it is genuine or not, I cannot say. It could be that it is based on her personal experience that can vary between residents. Of course, there are postings online that are completely false and just used to spread FUD.
If you were comparing your experiences with the man who was trying to live at the poverty level income, well that is his experiences as he tried to live on meager salary.
I recall one trip in Zaporozhye, I'd made friends with a Canadian guy who lived/worked in LAX, as we were sitting in the front beer garden of O'Briens Irish Pub he was like a radar eyeing up the 'totty' all glammed up in their fashionable clothes, short skirts, often dyed hair and cosmetics.
I've also been in many a shop in Zaporozhye whether it be the department store and/or a supermarket, these shops are far from empty and USD100 a month isn't going to get one very far.
The bowling alley could be an expensive night out, by Ukrainian standards, it was regularly busy, Zaporozhye must have the longest 'high street' in Ukraine, it was regularly bustling with people the majority of them shopping.
Sounds to me like you copy and pasted a sob story of, perhaps, a lady who didn't get herself an education etc. My ex's brother didn't get himself an education, the only jobs he could get were in the industrial (and heavily polluted) plants in Zaporozhye and his health, his eyesight, were suffering as a result ... and all because he couldn't be bothered to get himself an education!
I don't know who you guys know but in donetsk all government salaries have been cut by 50%. My father in law is a "director" level of an agency over there. His official salary had been cut to about $200 per month but he gets "envelope" money that brings him to about $650 pet month.
"In other words, even if people could get the jobs with the monthly wages they desired, their actual income (in USD) would have dropped by 26% from January to December.
The galloping inflation in Ukraine in 2014-2015 diminished actual take home incomes of employees, despite growth of incomes in hryvnia."
http://blogs.elenasmodels.com/en/average-income-in-ukraine/
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The average IT salary there is only a little over 3% of my salary.
"Experts believe that the share of Ukrainian shadow economy may be substantially higher."
"In short, about 5-10% of what you paid probably went to the author of chats and letters (maybe a young guy laughing his pants off :) ). About 50-75% went to the giant PPL consortium, whose shareholders right now probably entertain on a board of a large yacht in Cayman Islands. Other 20-50% to the fat guy or lady who set up the fake marriage agency in Ukraine, the one who hires girls to pose for photos and writers to type letters."