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ragingbull

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	Send: 1/14/2017 2:04:36 PM

Trump's policies are simple: America First. Now, he talks of removing the sanctions. In order to further American ambitions, he is looking for Russians as a help, not as an adversary. What does this mean for Ukraine? My social media Ukrainian friends hate Trump already, before any of his policies are even announced or implemented. Being against Trump only works against them. My suggestion has been to be like him, look for Trump or America for help, not to criticize.

MartinPC

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	Send: 1/14/2017 9:31:30 PM

From what I read he only mentioned regarding the removing of some more recently imposed sanctions. But then he'd only be in a position to remove any USA sanctions, he might like to think that he heads the European Union and the rest of the world but he doesn't. I still consider the guy a jackass for his suggestion that Germany lead a European campaign against Russia to get the fck out of Ukraine ... Germany last led a European campaign during 1939 and since the 1940's it has been in their constitution that they are not allowed to become involved in conflicts except to defend their own territory. When all the others were going after Gaddafi Germany had 2 warships in the Mediterranean, for fear of becoming involved (because they're not allowed to) they got the fck out of there as fast as they could. And you've voted this guy to lead your country? :)

ragingbull

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	Send: 1/15/2017 12:44:38 AM

That's no surprise. You consider anyone who doesn't agree with you a jackass. Everyone is looking to America to solve world problems. His motto is, America first. It is not to say America will not help, but what is in it for America?

fram

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	Send: 1/15/2017 7:15:13 AM

When Russia moved into Ukraine, Obama and his euro-buddies did a Munich 1938 (look it up) except for some limp-wrist sanctions. They said "ok you can steal land and make war, but you have to pay a little penalty". Great Now, Trump (who in SEVENTY YEARS never helped anybody but himself and his family) says, "we want Russia to LIKE us, so let's stop the little penalty. Let them keep what they steal and make war on anybody they want, we won't lift a finger to stop them." Better yet, let's give Putin a prize for invading his peaceful neighbors. Maybe a nice chocolate cake or something, and a few hundred billion dollars of new business deals. Those Ukrainians are stupid to complain about Trump, right?

ragingbull

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	Send: 1/15/2017 11:26:40 PM

"Those Ukrainians are stupid to complain about Trump, right?" No. Those Ukrainians are stupid for showing their hate for him. You can hate him, but showing it is stupid. Trump campaigned and has a policy of "America First". Why should America help someone who hates their president? Beyond that, what can Ukraine do to deserve help? "Who in SEVENTY YEARS never helped anybody but himself and his family" Wrong. Putting up a business creates goods and services that help suppliers, consumers and provide employment. Contrast that with the people in charities who get their income from donations. "We want Russia to LIKE us, so let's stop the little penalty." Wrong again. We want Russia to HELP us, is what he said. That can mean many things. It will not be without conditions.

fram

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	Send: 1/16/2017 3:52:37 AM

how to remove the sanctions: 1 remove every single Russian weapon from Ukraine, including Crimea 2 order every single Russian fighter to leave Ukraine, including Crimea 3 US and europe will end the sanctions in a few days Putin could decide to get the f*ck out of Ukraine today, and have everything done by next week

MartinPC

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	Send: 1/16/2017 6:28:41 AM

"Why should America help someone who hates their president?" But it seems that some 50% of the USA population hate their President elect, perhaps, because he wasn't their bona-fida elected President! :)

ragingbull

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	Send: 1/16/2017 11:34:41 AM

"But it seems that some 50% of the USA population hate their President elect, perhaps, because he wasn't their bona-fida elected President! :)" Why do you operate on "seems"? What seems is wrong. Does that mean every time you vote and lose, you hate the candidate? I did not vote Obama, but I hated his policies. And yes, I have made fun of him and his policies. But no, I don't hate him. "how to remove the sanctions" Those were Obama's rules, fram. Look up "bridge to Crimea". The Russians are building it. Those rules did not work before they started the bridge. How is it going to work now? Many show Ukrainians show their hate Trump on social media. fram making things up is an example. I understand and support his domestic policies. I am not sure I understand his foreign policy. I have been sympathetic towards Ukrainians, as evidenced by my previous posts. I cannot support hatred towards Trump.

ragingbull

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	Send: 1/17/2017 12:43:48 PM

Trump just put conditions on removing the sanctions. Reduce your nuclear weapons. Moscow is silent. I love it.

Tom Shea

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	Send: 1/18/2017 12:23:37 PM

It's really simple. Trump is a negotiator. That means russia gets something and NATO gets something. Perhaps he trades the military build up in eastern europen for the return of the donbass. No one knows what a workable deal may look like. People should wait and see

ragingbull

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	Send: 1/19/2017 12:45:22 AM

You're right, Tom. Wait and see. You did forget one thing. Since it is, America first. America should also get something. It is hard to tell what he will do. He is also getting on NATO's case because the US foots most of the bill.

ragingbull

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	Send: 1/19/2017 10:32:42 PM

The President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko is seeking to meet with Trump. Good move.

kaiserdag

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	Send: 1/22/2017 1:38:54 AM

Trump and Putin may like each other but Trump's appointees speaks badly of Russia, may be is just to get the job. Regardless of that fiasco, the geopolitical scene is less predictable. I strongly believe that if the missile defense system stops its rutine testing or any troop redeployments out of teather, it could be a sign of a Trump deal with Putin. This will undermine NATO alliance and EU policies. Sorry UKRAINE, but at this time the Europeans have a lot on their plates. You're on your own. I won't mention much on Japan or South Korea but they are also scrambling because Trump had said " America first " !!!

ragingbull

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	Send: 1/31/2017 6:54:20 PM

I strongly doubt that the sanctions will be lifted. Medvedev told the Russian people shortly after Trump's inauguration that it will probably be not lifted, around the time Trump set the conditions I posted above. There is too much opposition by the government - US and foreign. In her news conference with Trump, Theresa May, PM of the UK, said the conditions are that Russia follow the Minsk agreement. Trump stayed silent.

ragingbull

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	Send: 2/3/2017 11:59:22 AM

There you go. The Trump administration just put out his Russia policy: Get out of Ukraine before the sanctions are lifted. Crimea is part of Ukraine. Trump has been friendly to Russia. There is a difference between friendly and being friends. Shortly after Trump praised Putin personally (not on policy) , posters were put up by Ukrainians of Putin and Trump kissing. Many of my Ukrainian friends hate Trump. I expect to see a change of heart.

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