I do not know exactly how to share the information given to me by 'Luxury Travel.com' of Kremenchug,Ukraine--but I know that so many of us are not " in the know" about the certain legalities involving visas. Luxury Travel just sent me a letter stating that for 650 dollars, ( not including airfare of course)they will make all the arrangements for my sweetheart to come here to the U.S. on a work visa ( F-1 I believe this is called) This visa gives her 3-6 months here,thereafter she can apply for an extension to remain here longer. Does anybody know of this company? Can it`s reputability be vouched for? Is there some way I can show this letter ( I am still not a computer whiz-but have the letter on floppy) to you? She tells me that this arrangement is a contractual agreement made by this travel agency and perhaps some wazoo lawyer,and certain employers in the U.S.,but the working part is only a formality,and that seldom if ever is the woman checked to ascertain her working status. I hope somebody can verify or villify this for me-as I want to be certain. I have been told several times now that the fiance visa is not the easiest,or quickest option for a woman to come to the U.S.--and this is by Ukraine ladies that are right here in the U.S.,whom I talk on the phone to. etah moya mechta gavaryu ee pahneemayoo pah rooskee,no yah gavaryu tolka nimnoga. :o) I have explored many variants,and I really have not decided on one,so any advice or words of wisdom would be helpful. Thanks for your time. Oh -yeah,before I forget. Tim,good luck and God bless for a safe and fortuitous journey,filled with much happiness,and good pelmeni!!!!!
Drag the pointer over the letter with the left mouse button held down to "high light" the whole text, let go of the left button and the text should stay highlighted, keep the pointer over the highlighted letter and
click the right button and click "copy" with the left button,
after clicking the white box on this web page with the left button,
click the right button again, and click "paste" (again with the left button) and the letter will magically appear in the white box, then click "send reply" as normal and it should post the whole thing here.
Judgement is defiantly reserved until I have seen this letter !!
Are you nuts?
Pardon my unfiltered brutal manners, buddy, but any man this lazy deserves to be fleeced by any seemingly blatant visa or other equally abusive scam.
What prevents you from calling your local Federal INS office and find out what is the proper legal way to bring someone into the country?
If you're already outside the US, contact the US consulate or embassy.
TimH is right, besides the obvious cautionary reasons to go meet someone with whom you hope to form a successful relationship, you should be considering the risk your woman and her family take by sending her to a strange country to meet a complete stranger...
oh, well... F1 is student visa. h1 is a work visa and it takes a lot to get one now.
they will try to get a temp visa, and will fail.
you can pay for her enrollment in any university, university international student office will issue I94 form, she can go with that form to the embassy and try to get the visa. it is one way. I think most universities offer English classes for one year, English as second language.
but I think getting fiance visa will be cheaper and better for you.
OK... this is long.... but please Spirit, read it all before you get pissed at me, until you read it all you will Never understand all that I write is to help you, not hurt you !!
Would you allow, or feel happy about Your 25 year old daughter flying to the other side of this shitty world, to a Very differently cultured country, to meet a total stranger she had never met before ?
I don't have a daughter, I have a step Son, he is 19 and legally a man, but I would NOT be the slightest bit happy if he suggested he was about to do exactly that, no matter What country he was planning to go to !!! And he isn't even my natural child !!
My friends and my family even worry about me flying in and out of the FSU so often, and I'm bloody 40 years old !!!!
Spirit, its time for me to give it to you straight mate, and I know we have had similar conversations to this one already, but GLT is right, stop being so bloody lazy and waiting for the world to drop in your lap, because it Wont.
Reality check, You WILL need to make the first move and Go to your girl in her own city !!! No woman in her right mind is going to fly to the USA to meet you, even if they could, they wouldn't take the risk !!!
EG: What if you turned out to be a pimp, or a "white slave trader" ?
They DO still exist so Do Not laugh, and its a World wide problem !! They procure young Russian girls for rich US/UK and other country Madams and Pimps to work as whores in dirty stinking conditions for No money. These poor girls are informed on their arrival in their new country that they owe the man who brought them there anything from $5000 to $25,000 for bringing them there, and to replay it they must turn tricks until the debt is paid, but of course with interest, the debt is Never paid, and all this time the girl is threatened that if she doesn't do what they want they will kill her son, daughter, father, mother, sister, just about any relative or close person she left behind in her home country, the girls have No choice, they dare not say No, because they Know these men don't care about life, they Will kill their family members one by one until the girl doe's what they want, because to these men, human beings are animals that they own which make them Money !! They would think no more about shooting a girls mother than you or I would about killing an ant !! :o(((
So many Russian girls are got into so many countries on the promise of work, and a good life, only to be thrown in a brothel and their family back home used to threaten them to do as they are told or else !!! And believe me mate, it isn't just the USA where this happens, London is teaming with it and so is Amsterdam !!
NO Russian girl in her right mind will do what you propose !! And any one who would, very likely will run off the moment your back is turned because all you will be is her ticket to the US !!
Now please stop this silly talk, and do the "right thing" if you truly do care about this lady/these ladies !!
Besides the fact, if you stump up this $650 and it isn't a scam (which to be honest I am inclined to think it is as this is The Oldest scam in the book !!) If she goes for the interview and is declined, you have lost your $650, the agency have legally done all they can do, it will be the Girl who doesn't succeed at interview time, not the agency !!! The agency have done all the paperwork they contracted to do, they cannot "Promise" the result will be positive and they Wont because they cannot !! If they DO promise, then I can tell you its 100% a Scam !!! No-one, not even the best Lawyer in the world can promise success in this field !!!! They will have fullfilled their side of the contract as soon as she enters the interview room, after that its in the lap of the Gods !!! They have earned their fee, you Don't have a leg to stand on, You are $650 out of pocket and you still are no nearer meeting any Russian woman, let alone your soulmate !!!
Please don't think I'm having a go at you mate, I just want to try to help you see the pitfalls, the possibility that this IS a scam (and there is a very good chance it is) and to help you not make the same mistakes 1000`s have made before you.
This scam is so well known because litterally 1000`s have been caught by it, and many 1000`s more have had it tried on them but not fallen for it !!
I can speak from a fathers point of view. I have a daughter and she is 8 years old. She IS my little princess, and yes, I would lay my life down for her if I had to. This is what makes me understand what the girls families must feel. There is NO WAY she would ever go to another country for ANYONE and I dont really care how old she would be, she could be 35, I dont care. If she respected me she wouldn't do something so stupid.
That is why I am going first. My lady knows that my first priority after we meet is to meet her family and try to gain there respect. They already know about me and they know through her words how important it is that they accept me. She is so happy that I place alot of importance to this matter. How could I not? Its there daughter, she means everything to them. I don't really want to go to Russia. My family thinks I'm nuts. They wont even talk to me about it that how upset they are. Its like they push it out of there minds. But I HAVE to go first, there just isn't any other choice. I wish there was but there isn't. Look at all the terrorist animals in this world right now wanting to kill us all, you think I want to fly across the ocean? HELL NO
But if I am ever going to have a chance with her, I have no choice.
I can just hope and pray she is worth it and is the woman of my dreams...
Yes, it is really afraid to go at another country. Especially when you know human only at letters. And I think , it is better when man come to girl at first time. But if it is impossible, and you know each other long time ( not a month!!!!) and write as minimum one letter every day to each other ( more – better. ) girl can go to he.
But not like ordinal tourist. It is really afraid.
Make a invite. That time she will know , that you are really you. At embassy all papers will look 10 times ;)) so , it give some sure.
And you will have some obligation , that she will come back in time. And nothing will happened with her. And no any agency – you must make everything yourself.
Of course, it take time. But it show everything.
And you mustn’t send her money for tickets – pay for it yourself. She will take it , when she will get a visa. And Russia impossible to take tickets on hands, before you haven’t visa at your passport.
Hope , this information will help you.
Good luck.
Thanks for the advice Rina, although I did pay for 1 Russian girl to meet me in the uk, but she was already in possession of a residency permit and had been here before, I flew to Holland to meet another as she was visiting a friend who as marrying a Dutchman. My daughter is 13 and she is my life, I would be devastated if in a few years she was off to live the other side of the world, it is such a sacrifice on the parents and girls side
You can come out now from under the rock you're hiding, lol...
We're done beating you up on this topic....(I hope)
I'm glad others gave you a piece of their minds about this topic.
I would not touch any woman with a 10 foot pole if she is not concerned about her family thinks of her going to a foreign land or meeting a foreign man.
I wasnt beating the poor guy up GLT, I just dont want to see one of our group get hurt, or worse still badly burned finanially when I know I can help them avoid this type of scam :o)
spirit
Maybe you should consider a proxy marriage in mexico first. At least the poor girl would have you commitment before you have her travel the world for you.
Not sure how this will complicate the divorce thou when you relise you aint write 4 1 another.
Check out any EU countries web site Nisse, you should be able to find it there.
NB: The UK is not in the EU yet !!! Bringing a girl to the UK Cannot be done on chengan visa, and if the girl has a Chengan visa the UK will not allow her to come here until after that Chengan expires !!!
(Personally, I hope the UK Never joins the EU !! Not because I dont want Russian ladies to come here, of course I do !! But because it will be bad for thsi country, but as Blair doesnt care about this country I suspect he will join us up before he gets voted out and leave the mess for the Tory`s to sort out !!! )
I am using the library computer--having problems pasting and sending. Tried to send manually to "fiance.com" but wouldn`t work. Hey! I want to thank you all for your info--even to trash a little on me is okay. I also want you to know that it is my dream to go to Kiev,and that I have only been debating this thing out of respect for her wishes. I DO want to meet the parents,the son,the dyadushka,the babushka,and anybody else connected. This girl and I have been writing intimately for many months now,and I thought it plausible that she would want our privacy. What I have done recently is send her 50 dollars to buy a passport from Luxury Travel. I will contact them with an inquiry about this passport. I have not made up my mind completely yet--but I am very skeptical by nature with this stuff--so trash on--I really appreciate it. Better to have the bitter truth then a sweet lie I say. I will close by saying thanks to you all--Tim,GLTALL TOAD,Crash,Southerngentuk,Olegnay,Rina. I will keep you all posted--hope I can send a copy of this letter from the "agency" soon. Take care !! And thanks again. Blaine