This was during normal times and not since covid, I always fround the wiki page of an airport to be informative as to which routes ate flown, ie if you search for "krasnodar airport wiki" it suggests that Turkish Airlines operate thru Krasnodar but whichever the route/airline then go check it out on the airline's own website and/or a travel agent site.
Not all intended jokes are so funny and I'd rather fly with SCAT than I would with the likes of Korean or Asiana:
"SCAT Airlines Flight 760 was a scheduled domestic passenger flight from Kokshetau to Almaty, Kazakhstan, operated by a Bombardier CRJ-200 twinjet that on 29 January 2013 crashed in thick fog near the village of Kyzyltu, while on approach to Almaty. All 16 passengers and 5 crew on board were killed"
And if airline names are amusing then who the f*ck named an airline "Trump Air"?
“to trump” (intransitive verb) means to expel gas through the anus — e.g. Trumped from eating too much baked beans — often in a highly audible way (as in with trailing sound)"
I don’t know why you would want to fly on an airline where everyone one was killed, verses an airline that only had one accident, where everyone lived??
You wrote about something from 30 years ago,,, I had to look it up! It appeared to be a successful airline until the Gulf war and soaring fuel prices. But perhaps it was foolish to compete with the highly successful “Pan Am”?
I see you are an American with a bad case of TDS??
"The embassy said it was cutting consular staff by 75% and that from May 12 it would stop processing non-immigrant visas for non-diplomatic travel after a new Russian law imposed limits on how many local staff can work at foreign diplomatic missions."
"I don’t know why you would want to fly on an airline where everyone one was killed, verses an airline that only had one accident, where everyone lived??"
How about the B747 that deviated off course so much, because the flight crew were asleep, that the Russians shot it down?
How about the B747F out of London/Stansted whereas the Captain's artificial horizon was kaput thus the aircraft shouldn't have flown, not only did it fly, not only at nbight when all they could see was black, but the Captain was doing the flying when the First Officer had a perfectly functioning artificial horizon, with no indication if he was climbing or descending, wings level or otherwise, it made a f*cking big hole in the ground soon after take off.
And how about the B747 they lost in Guam, never mind the Asiana f*ck up in to SFO?
There is something in Korean culture 'respect', there are two pilots, if one is f*cking it up then the other takes control but not in Korea, one pilot gives the other pilot 'respect' all the way to his/her grave.
Yep, I'm truly an American with whatever TDS is :)
Huck,, I don’t have a plan in motion yet, that’s what I came here for. I could send her the money for her to buy the tickets herself. I could have the tickets waiting for her at the airport. Or I could fly to meet her at the airport or her home town. Sending her the money is out,,, so is meeting her in Russia. I’d rather let Igor have a good time!
I may not need to worry about it any more though. The two are sisters as I had suspected. The youngest one is getting a little impatient, and asked when they are getting out of Russia? The situation is a little more tense lately, and they might just be looking for an escape!
A serious relationship should be out of the question if they would use a guy for airfare. However I need a vacation. I’ve connected with a charming young lady in Kyiv, but too late for a vacation this spring.
Martin, no, Trump Air. Did you check out the link I pasted?
I don’t know about those other stories,,, Trump Air only had one minor accident.
How can you be an American and not know what TDS is.
TDS- “Trump Derangement Syndrome”
He is a washed up Brit with TDS. He will patronize you when he knows something and you don't.
Then, when you do the same and own him like he did you, he complains to admin. He complains often. He has denied this, but I have proof. Admin usually takes a hands off attitude towards such things. But, they do listen to complaints.
Well the penny finally appears to have dropped, just reading back thru this thread please allow me this opportunity to summarise:
You posted some 2.5 months ago on 03 March that you were looking for help regarding a girl in Yalta who claimed that foreigners have been travelling to Russian occupied Crimea at will whilst, upon behalf of a supposed agency, she was trying to sell to you a dating agency package of flight bookings, transportation, accommodation, interpreters etc.
Now in years past this forum was alive with guys experienced in travelling, dating, business practices and indeed scams in FSU and the vast majority of those guys, were they still present, would have been waving red flags at you, as indeed I have waved a red flag at you, and it has become apparent that since your first post of 03 March listening isn't your strongest suit and that you came to this forum looking for support rather than help, here's a few pointers for you:
Does this supposed dating agency have any website, any advertised street address, any telephone number other than a mobile? OK, an agency can profile their ladies on a variety of third party websites but if they have no advertised nor present office address etc. then how would any ladies find such an agency in the first instance?
On 08 April you admitted, whether you realise it or not, that the supposed agency interpreter is actually her friend and was present in your girl's bedroom, doesn't an agency interpreter have better things to do like being out there interpreting for all the foreigners that are travelling there at will, might a red flag not have been appearing out of the mist for you at that point Loki?
If any normal guy wishes to search a girl does he go to a dating agency or a travel agency, similarly if any normal guy wishes to book flights does he go to a travel agency or a dating agency? I just had a quick look on skyscanner.com and flights were readily available MOW/SIP for as little as $55, why the need for a dating agency to book flights except to rip you off, any red flag yet Loki? … And we don't collect or show tickets any longer Loki, these days a ticket is merely an accountancy piece of paper, we receive e-tickets or simply turn up at the check-in desk and show our ID for them to find us in the computer.
Even in the old days, when few if any Ukraine domestic flights were bookable online, I regularly utilised one small travel agency and for a small fee of perhaps $10 their guy would regularly meet me in Borispol Airport arrivals with my tickets in hand, I've never heard anything so ridiculous as a dating agency arranging flights!
Agency arranging transportation, oh yes, to and from those trips and evenings out if they didn't have their own car and driver overcharging you to give them their percentage they would be talking to the taxi driver in their language, so as that you wouldn't understand, to overcharge you and give them a cut.
Accommodation ditto, I'm out of touch with prices but were an apartment $30 per night they'd have you paying maybe $60 per night, hotels are bookable online and certainly in the old days apartments were available online also.
There is an old-fashioned and very true industry saying “Don't allow yourself to fall in love with a photograph”, OK technology has moved on from photographs to webcams but the logic is the same and when I made mention that you were allowing yourself to fall in love with a webcam girl you seemed to take exception. Loki, if a girl appears in a photograph it doesn't mean that she is a photoshoot model, likewise if a girl appears in a webcam it doesn't mean that she is a sex worker, it is merely an expression of speech.
Then, it would appear they were losing the argument with you to come to Yalta to get scammed so they opted for a, quote, “exotic and tropical” holiday, my god they've truly seen you coming, you are going to blow thousands of dollars on a girl that you have only seen in a webcam, yes only in a webcam, they certainly did the number on you just by the way that you wrote so excitedly in your post thereafter, that you think that you mey get to hump both of them when the truth is that you are likely to hump neither of them.
Loki, the break-up of the USSR occurred some 30+ years ago, these pretty ladies no longer suffer the financial hardships of all those years ago, indeed it's a different generation or two, they are not so desperate to leave their homeland in search of a better life, just look at the clothes and cosmetics these girls wear in their photographs and webcams, do they come across as poor to you?
This scenario had so many red flags that you were seemingly ignoring, or turning a blind eye to, one after another after another, ay least the penny has finally dropped, that these were a couple of sisters out to milk you for as much as they could possibly milk out of you.
Martin, thanks for worrying about me, but I think you’re taking things too far. I’m looking for a vacation and a good time,, marriage is a long time off. Been there, done that! If she turns out to be a good person, maybe. If she’s just planning to give me a good screwing,,,, ditto!!
Her agency gave me a good deal on a package to their city, and I would have taken it if it was still part of Ukraine,, with a few tweaks. And what was wrong with planning a trip to a place exotic and tropical in April??
They both explained about wanting to “get out of Russia” and it’s about having a vacation too. The young one does work odd hours interpreting ,,, at a hotel and for the agency. I see her come home often. Things in Russia must be much worse than is commonly known. People’s movements are being controlled by employers because of Covid! Home-work-home work, little to no time for entertainment or even shopping. So, as you can see,,, they feel about the same as I do.
Do I plan on “humping” both of them? Huh,,, not so much anymore, now that I know they are sisters. Just room mates, well why not, but not sisters, what would that say for either of us?
Writing so excitedly? I didn’t know that I did that. The girls have a fairly small flat, but a good webcam. I have a 60 some inch flat screen with a HDMI connection. I sometimes switch from the laptop to the flat screen. When they get dressed for bed or from out of the shower, I can sometimes see them. It’s as if these two girls were built to my exact specifications. Remember the good time thing??
It’s not my first time around the block or my first rodeo. I expect to have expenses, what vacation is free? It wouldn’t be any cheaper with a local girl. In fact, I plan on giving the girl just the right amount of rope., because the trip is back on. I even have a few places in mind.
A shoutout to Mr Ragingbull, are you trying for a Royal flush or a Raging flush?? Take a look at the main page!!
I'm better informed thus understanding now but find myself bemused regarding these girls seemingly changing story.
In your first post you'd offered to meet them away from Yalta but they were insisting that you meet them in Yalta yet now you say that they want to get out of Russia, well wasn't that what you offered and they rejected in the first instance? :)
Regarding 'screwing', as the saying goes "Two is company, three is a crowd" and I've seen or heard of it so many times, when there are two girls together they shall stay together, it won't be you and her plus another, it shall be her and her and the other, the add on, shall be you, if you want to date a girl with any reasonable chance of screwing then meet and date her by herself, as soon as they want to bring a sister, cousin, friend or whatever then that's a red flag.
And a travel tip to keep at the back of your mind, northern (Turkish occupied) Cyprus is nice, the best beaches on the island are in the north, and FSU nationals can easily get a visa in to Turkey and flights to N. Cyprus are only from Turkey, from such airports as Istanbul and Antalya.
They didn’t really change their stories. I wanted her to come to Kyiv or Odesa, but they didn’t like the thought of crossing the border twice. I didn’t want to go to Russia for the same reasons, so it was an impasse. Wanting to go some where warm was always the plan, I just decided not to go to Yalta.
Re-regarding screwing,, I’d find something for her to do. This wouldn’t be the first time for me, I was the meat a few times, including a mother and daughter.
"A shoutout to Mr Ragingbull, are you trying for a Royal flush or a Raging flush??"
Both. I simply will not be disciplined by someone vulgar. He plays the moderator. I once asked admin if he works for fiance.com. The answer was no, and it sounded like I asked something offensive. He plays the good guy now, I know.