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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Your Russian Bride-The Shocking Truth Author Post Nisse Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2004 3:37:45 PM   Since I'm going next week to Russia I thought I would do some last minute homework and downloaded the "Your Russian Bride-The Shocking Truth" from www truthaboutrussianbrides com Not a too bad book really. Got things into pespective and some truths that should be known to us all allready. dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2004 6:34:23 PM   It's obviously not enough to put you off your trip! best wishes for your visit - you lucky *er. I'm 6 to 8 weeks away gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:59:42 AM   have the nerves kicked in yet Del???..........:)) dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 5:38:24 AM   yep - about 2 weeks ago and I consider myself quite cool! ...each week that passes by worsens the condition for both of us that when meeting will be a climatic event of escalated and probably uncontrollable desires. I imagine that I will not be eating or drinking the days leading up to travel, which can only exacerbate the condition. ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 11:07:50 AM   Just purchased , downloaded and read "Your Russian Bride-The Shocking Truth". It contained nothing shocking, but it was worthwhile. It cost $24. and was not all that long. I think that its main contribution is that it gives a good overview of the historical and social setting of the former soviet Union Women. The author breaks down the women into three categories based on their age. The ages are women 35 – 45 years old, women 25 -35 years old, and ‘girls’ 18 to 24 years old. She is a Russian bride in the U.S. herself. She says that the growing up and like experience of these three groups is quite different and will have a big impact on their personalities, goals, long term marriage- ability etc. Basically the older group grew up under communism and are independent and strong. She does not discourage foreign men from pursuing them but advises you know what you are doing (she gives decent information on the history, family background etc. Now she is quite disparaging regarding men expecting to much from the ‘Perestroika Babies’ those 18 to 24 year olds. They are too young. Are looking for younger men, adventure etc.. and may not really be ready to settle down to a house wife role. She positively gushes about the prospects of making it with a 25 to 35 year woman. She says that they are of the right age, from the right historical background and maturity to be the best candidates for marriage to foreign men. She does martial good and reasonable arguments for this. There are other good tips and info for making these marriages work. You may be able to find this info other places and cheaper, I don’t know. But for me the whole age and histirocal-social thing was good. As it turns out I intuitively kind of knew this , and my Lucy is 30 and seems right to me in these respects. dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 11:16:43 AM   Thanks for the synopsis. It seems like pretty obvious stuff to me and my sweetie is in the right bracket at 28. The older generation regardless of country will likely be set in their ways, the younger too eager to explore without commitment, leaving the mid-range group the best option. crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 11:26:31 AM   Thanks ensata GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 12:18:47 PM   Why anyone would consider a new relationship with a woman over 40 years of age from ANY country is in complete and total defiance of all laws governing common sense. Besides many other factors, there is not enough time to build the much needed "buffer zone" of tolerance, patience and understanding to overcome, endure and in some extreme cases "survive" their upcoming menopause. I know, I know, I know...women in their 40s deserve love, too. And many of them are absolutely gorgeous, but still, I would not touch them with a ten foot pole. ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:24:59 PM   Lucy's good friend is a Moldovian who married an American friend while she was in her 40's. I have talked with Florina and her husband John from Portland at some length. After over five years they are very happily married. I beleive he is some 10+ years older. She knew no English when she moved to the U.S. - they struggled for a year - but now she is quite fluent and they are doing great. Me in my 40's would not want to marry a 40 year old, but a guy older may well want to. I quess it is all relative. Man Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:25:23 PM   Thanks Ensata, you have confirmed my gut feelings here also........ so far I have been declining any offers from the 18 - 25 group. But I gotta tell you, sometimes it has been hard to do. You know what is really screwed up? Take a look on the domestic dateing sites here in the USA. The role reversal has become so complete many of the "women" are actally are now looking for younger men. ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:33:22 PM   I know 40+ year old women with teenage children who are living with early 20's year old "Men" right here in my little ol' New England home town. With no shame or apologies. An emmigration of more traditional value Russian women here into our 'modern' western countries may do a lot of good. Give these western Babes a run for their money. The exodus of women will probably eventually be a wake up call to our russian male counterparts. This whole Russian bride thing may have a window of opportunity that closes before to long. Who knows! GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 2:33:48 PM   The only way the "russian bride" window will close is if the opposite happens, lol....by that I mean that rusian women adopt the western female rotten ways of false entitlement and spoilt behavior. ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 2:41:06 PM   Given enough time here in the west it will happen. Maybe we can get a generation or two out of it though. One for us, one for our sons. Maybe they will be good role models for our daughters, and the next generation will begin to stem the tide and restore som sanity in male-female relations! tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 2:57:19 PM   All well thought out views and interesting, I am sticking to 30-35 and I am 41, mainly because I want more children GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 3:06:03 PM   LOL... I'm 48....and just like the wolves, I need young tender flesh to chew on as I get older. 35 is the oldest for me Rina Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 4:22:08 PM   My God , I can show you this moment, that girls from 25 to 35 is the worst , what only can be, and girls in 18 from 24 and from 35 to 45 are too better. One my professor was call such books - books for easy degree of cretinism. You mustn’t think even a minute on in. it show you ready way , and talk , that only this way is right. Go , and you will find. It write “big specialists” without high degree. This people need from you only your 24 $ - and you caught ;)) And after it you talk something from scammer, when now , this moment, you show that absolutely ready to lose money for nothing, only for bla- bla- bla- bla… ;)) Simply for example - minus of age in 30. 1. in Russia girls marry early. And if in 30 she don’t have anybody - means, nobody was interesting in her. 2. is she divorced - even better. If she already wasn’t can live with human, from where you was take , that she is angel ? 3. if she haven’t children - interesting , why ? usually here first child is when girl is 23-24 years old. May be , she is ill ? 4. first child in 30 - too late. Last investigation was show it very good. 5. if she have a child - who was tell you , that child will love you ? 6. even if child will love you - who was tell you , that woman love you , and go at country not simply for giving better life for her child ? 7. if she already have child , will she want to have child from you? Or she will tell - ok , no problems , I want your child very much , but child will not come ? 8. girl in 30 already not so beauty , as at 20 , and not so clever, as at 40. :) 9. her character already made, and she have experience. Good or bad - but you will not be even second in her life. 10. she is already Woman with a big number of habits, and she already cannot change it , but she still not so soft to look calm on your. I can continue long - long… and at every group find as a lot of - , as a lot of plus. So, think yourself. What you want, and with who you want. In this book you was read one , at another - another. Look at life easily, and life will be better:)))))) tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 4:32:47 PM   Thank you for yopur comments Rina...and hello by the way.:) I expect you know better than us, we have probably unchangeable habits as well ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 6:06:49 PM   Rina, thanks for the input. Much of what you say certainly could pertain to women of all ages. How old are you Rina? I do think it is probably unfair to lump all these women of the 25-35 year old group together as "losers". Certainly if a 30 year old is set in her ways a 35+ year old would be set in her ways. A younger woman may also be set in her ways as our human ways are set very early in life and some of our ways are inbred. When I married my U.S. wife she was 19 (and beautiful) I was 27. I was congratulated by my peers as they said she was young and could be influenced and would grow into my ways. After years of marriage to her I say B.S.! I bent over backwards to pamper her because of her age - a huge mistake. Now this little book I read said. as you have stated, that in their culture these women (25 -35 )are looked down upon and stereotyped in their culture as old maids (there was a Russian term she used - but old maid is a good English equivalent). If they have never been married they are derided, if they have been married and divorced they are looked down upon even more. What the H*ll chance do these poor women have when even their fellow Russian woman deride them! No wonder they want to get the H*ll out of there! I am sorry but in the U.S a 25 year old woman is hardly considered to be over the hill. Often they are educated and professional women (compared to the 18-24 year olds). Check it out on the Fiance.com search, Most of the younger girls have not and are not attaining to the education levels of the older women. They want out to start a new life, because their society, and many of their men, and apparently a fair number of the younger and married women have reject them as second class. And as the author of this little book points out these women hold their good looks a lot longer than our western women. Lucy, who is 30, is educated, articulate, gentle and kind, and pretty comes from an intact close knit family. But she made a big mistake in life - she married a jerk. After doing my own thinking and having heard two sides to this matter I am convinced that I am on the right track. Also please realize Rina that we too must must fall under scorn being mainly divorced men "is she divorced - even better. If she already wasn’t can live with human, from where you was take , that she is angel ? " Pretty much we are all losers but were not giving up striving to better our lives. As far as the $ 24. it is no big deal, hardly a scam and worth the extra 10 minutes worth of my salary it cost. I would rather blow a few bucks here and now than blow big bucks there and later. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 8:23:11 PM   Rina, dear.... Do I detect a touch of scorn from you towards us men who seek the favors of FSU women???? You wouldn't be trying to discourage us, would you now? I wonder how old Rina truly is and how many divorces she may have under her hairy pits. Sometimes I even question Rina's gender, lol.... Would anyone here be surprised if Rina was actually a Rino russian male poking fun at the western men who marry his country women? dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2004 4:09:31 AM   I think you have the hots for Rina, GLT. lol I think the points about incomplete relationships is a fair one that more often than not the man will be attributed blame for any breakdown whereas we all know...it takes two to party. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Your Russian Bride-The Shocking Truth
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