I did mean BC. I live in Vancouver and we are long time friends. But now I'm married with two year old twins and there are no single people in our circle. The reason to find somebody close to me is that I'd be able to help her with adaptation. And if something doesn't work out - at least she'd visited me. Or, I guess, Seattle is not tooooo far. And I have no idea where is the Big Smoke.
icinderella,
To mind agency is the best option as 1) it is free for ladies (Internet, translations, pictures, help etc.) 2) she is able to use Search engine option selecting only residents of Vancouver and the nearest cities.
You live in Canada and you don't know the alternate names of Toronto? Perhaps these other names will help in the future....
Toronto = Hog Town, The big smoke, Center of the Universe, T.O., Canada's
Economic Engine, Western Canada's Bank Machine, Hockey Central,
Hockey- rrific, Hockey Town, Hockey, Hockey, Hockey...... Oh, and Beer eh...
Just thought I'd help you out with the Canadian Lingo describing Toronto.
By the way, toronto is about 3000km from vancouver. It's a 5 day easy drive, or a 4 hour flight.....
Funny, i remember people saying they would travel 4000km to meet their lady, ironically that distance would get you to the Yukon from where I am. Large countries can be a curse to the international traveller, half the trip is leaving your own damned home. :-)
TIM, hehe, I'll move back home when you do... One stipulation, YOU FIRST! HA HA HA....
Thanks Tony for your help with Canadian Lingo and geography
As you probably guessed I'm from Belarus. I've been in Vancouver for 6 years but I still learn the expressions, slang and the rest of the fun stuff. And I've been to Toronto.
And if you don't mind a 5 day easy drive, or a 4 hour flight..... - be my guest. I can tell you more about my friend ......... But you, my friend, have no chance not to fall for her!
Ultra
The agency is free but it not that much fun. I've tried it myself long time ago. In the beggining it was OK. I was flattered that I've got HUGE response - hundreds of letters. I tryed to do my best to answer to all. But it became my second full time job. And than fun have begun. I've started getting faxes and phone calls from some guys asking me to invite them over - almost every day! I've freaked out and left my idea to meet somebody through the adds.
I still found my way to Canada where I'd met my husband.
do not confuse agencies with dating sites. fiance.com is not an agency. to register as a lady you should go to www.naidimuzha.ru or follow for women at fiance.com. what agency are you looking for. everybody works on the net now.
Olegnay, yes, I agree that fiancée.com is not an agency, but dating site. But how the majority of ladies get to this site? They get registered in agencies. So when I wrote agencies I meant dating agencies, and there is no much difference between dating agencies and dating sites as they are interconnected. Ladies who don’t have internet and whose English is poor have to go to their local agencies to receive/send letters and have them translated. And at the same time their pictures/bio are on the dating site. And I am sure, that icinderella’s question was about agencies=dating sites.
Icinderella,
I agree that it is very time consuming process to look for a partner through the internet, but while your friend is in Belarus, I am afraid that this is the only way out. But I think it will be not as difficult for her as it was for you as she has a restriction – she is interested only in men from Vancouver. She can specify it in her profile, and I am sure, the number of letters will not be that huge. How many single men in Vancouver who are interested in marriage to Fsu women? Not too many. Anyway, she can always write a rejection letter to those, who she is not interested in and don’t spend time on them.
You can also try to give an advertisement in Vancouver’s local newspapers and provide your friend’s e-mail address as contact information.
Btw, you wrote that you had found Your way to Canada. Maybe you’d share your experience with your friend and with us (very interesting 0:)) )
Thank you for your responses
I came to Canada to work as a nanny. There is a special program in Canada for foreign Caregivers. I had no problems with visa or work permit.
I'd applied for immigration under that program and even after our mariage I still worked as a Live-in Nanny. And we didn't even try to have children until I've got immigration status. But I'm extremly happy I did it this way.
Adapation was NOT easy. I went through the major cultural shock. Like any woman (over 1 yo)I had a huge mental luggage with me and it took years to get rid of it. I'm thankful to my husband for patience and understanding (even though he lost it a bit after we've married).
You are for a big challenge but I'm sure it's worth it. Our women kind, greatful, caring and loving. But we are all humans.
Cinderella. I have a good friend who lives in Vancuover. He just got back from the Ukraine searching for his soul mate. He is 43 and a pilot for Canadian Airlines. He is good looking and serious about marriage. Maybe we can introduce our friends! Email me her photos and I can tell you if she is his type. How tall is she? Does she have children? He is looking for a girl with no children.
Deanis you forgot to write your e-mail. I hope OLEGNAY won't mind :)
Dma, it's a long story but I'll find some time and do my best to give you short overview from inside. You'll find it INTERESTING. But for now I can tell: LANGUAGE IS A HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE FACTOR. The rest is later.
Cheers
ty cinders. I will look forward to that as I am sure a few others will too.
I am contemplating doing the opposite (staying there, if I can) in the short term just to be close to her with a longer term view to bringing her back giving time for re-adjustment including cultural and language issues all of which can be developed over time than a shock to the system. It's a good eye opener about how we men take for granted that a woman should just up and move (she likely wants to do anyway), and accept our ways - it's not quite so easy and a daunting prospect when you have to make this commitment yourself.
Short overview on adaptation in Canada from Belorussian point of view.
Language – I had a good base and as I thought big enough vocabulary. But after arrival I realized that I hardly understand anybody. The way people talk, the expressions they use, the speed of talking. It was quiet frustrating. I had no one to talk in Russian. By the day 10 I was not sure I could handle my new world. Everything in English: radio, newspapers, TV, my employers and their kids, my new friends ......... I felt my brain is ready to explode. The intensity was enormous. I was caught off guard feeling this way and I was ready to go back home. But then I thought to myself: ”I didn’t come all the way to give up so easy”. It took some time and things got better. But I did put a lot of afford and patience. I took English course twice a week for 3 months, I memorized new words every day, I forced myself watching TV, I read lots of English books and my Russian was restricted to phone calls to my parents. It took me some time to start laughing watching local sitcoms. I’m doing OK now but my husband still corrects me sometimes.
Money – our attitude towards it is SO different. Working as a Live-in Nanny I had no taste of real life. I had a room and board and virtually no expenses. So when I met a guy and he kept complaining that he tries to save money for a new car but can’t afford it yet (while making somewhat 25 000/year). He wanted to pay the whole amount. But I could not understand how come? Where do the money go? I got a taste of it only after my marriage. When I saw my husband’s paycheque and how much are the taxes and other deductions and how much left after our monthly expenses: mortgage, car, insurance, groceries ect Most people in FSU don’t have savings because their expenses exceed their incomes. Before I was sure that American men have a “money tree ” in their yards. What I mean is a lot of money to spend. In my mind $25,000/year was $25,000 /year net to spend on entertainment, clothing, restaurants and different trips.
Average Russian earns $100/month and still manages to buy $500 fur coat and $200 boots and go to Turkey on vacation. The food almost as expensive as here. Everything they save – they spend. Maybe things have changed a bit since my departure. But talking to my mom I learn that it’s not getting easier nor cheaper.
Day to day living – What happens after arrival to another country is you have to accept that for a while you’ll become in a position of a child who has to learn even simple thing and ask a lot of questions. That was VEEEEEEEEEEEERY hard. I had to learn how to use washing machine, dishwasher, microwave, cook food in a new way, open bank account and learn how to use debit card and cheques, shopping, take a transit (I had a lot of fun there). Some simple thing like to use a shower (some of the faucets I’ve never seen before) or flush a toilet or lock/unlock the door. There are million of things you have to learn each day. You learn from your mistakes but it is very stressful. All I can tell I’m very glad it’s over.
Living in Belarus I did NOT want to get married. I feel fortunate to be in Canada and have a taste of a real family. My husband doesn’t smoke nor drinks (something doesn’t exist in FSU), he LOVES me (even after 6 year together), he LOVES our children and helps me a lot (I didn’t know it’s possible), he doesn’t cheat on me (I’m sure and hope it will last – and there is NO SUCH THING in FSU). But as any family we have our highs and lows. And we are definitely still in process of learning to understand and handle each other. Majority of women in FSU has very low self-esteem so they get upset very easy. So lots of patience and understanding required.
I’m sure my experiences won’t be the same for every woman as we are all different. I’d love to tell you more but I have to go.
I'm so sorry but what a dark picture you wrote...it seams like men here are just alcoholics, smoke much, cheat everyday and every minute, don't love their girlfriends and wives, don't love their children, don't earn money, and don't help their girlfriends and wives, and as far as I understood are not able to stay in a long-term relationship. I'm very sorry that you had such a bad experience in your life.
I can tell for sure that I see opposite things everyday, and though I'm not married yet and I don't have children yet, I can tell you for sure that not many men follow the picture you wrote. There are for sure those men, but I'm sure that they can be met in different countries. People change here a lot. But I'm from Ukraine, and not from Belorus.