First of all you Must go to the FSU and meet the lady in person, otherwise you dont stand a snowball in hells chance of getting anywhere. Then call the home office and ask them to send you all relevant info and form to apply.
You will need, proof that you have been writing to her for at least 6 months, more is better. You will need photographic evidence that you have physically met, and as many phone bills and any other papers as possible to prove a sustained relationship.
If it hasnt been 6 months yet you wont get a visa yet, they will insist on at least 6 months provable relationship.
Finally, you will also need to prove that you can support her if she doesnt go to work for at least 1 yaer of being here, that doesnt mean you have to have that cash in the bank, just that you have a stable job and a reasonable income to support 2 people. For at least the first year she will have No recourse whatsoever to public funds, either indiviually or as your partner if you lost your job, ie: you can claim SS for you but not one penny for her for at least 1 year, though if she goes out to work the b*stards will of course take a years income tax from her for giving her f*ck all back !!!
Tim I have been to visit her 3 times now, first time she arranged a private invatation for me,this way I got a private visa, and the other twice, I got visitors visa. I did not tell you she has 2 boys, we all get on very well. Will having cjildren make things harder?
You didnt give me much info to go on, so I had to guess where you had got to so far, and start from the beggining :o)) Now I know you have met her already, then all you need to do is fulfil the other requirements and dot the i`s, cross the t`s and you shouldn't have too much trouble with her.
The boys on the other hand are a whole new ball game !!!
Do they have contact with their father ?
Does he help support them ?
Is he active in their life ?
If the answer to any of the above questions is yes then you are in for a long, expensive, frustrating and annoying struggle to get the boys here !!!
For these boys to come with their Mum, their father Must sign several documents which give his permission for the boys to come with their Mum to England, or the US, the rules apply just the same for Any country that the man might come from who wants to take an FSU brides children away from their home country.
Its the main reason I have avoided women with children. It is a potential nite mare getting the father to agree !! In some cases he may Never agree no matter what inducements he is given, and then you are f*cked !!! Certainly until they are old enough to choose for themsleves !!
If he has vanished and hasn't been seen for years, and he cannot be located then a judge can rule in your favour by his continued disinterest in his children, then no great problem, but if he can be found, or has an active role with his children, you are going to have to get along Very Very well with him !! Or be able to buy him off !!
Many low life men there for a few $1000 will sign the papers. This doesn't mean you are adopting the kids, or buying them either !! It just means that you will have a legal right and so will their Mum to take them to the UK, USA, or whereever. I had heard that one guy wanted $7K for one child !! and another $10K, but of course everyone is different, you might even hit gold and find that so long as he knows his children are happy around you, that they will go back for holidays and see him then, and that his children will be given a better life by you than he can give them, then he may be a lot less difficult to deal with, BUT don't hold your breath !! Many Russian men are Very selfish, they may not want their kids, but if you want them (or you want their Mum and the kids are part of the deal of course, so he knows he can stuff up your life and hers by being awkward, and thats a bad position for you and you lady to be in !! ) its going to cost you "Mucho wonga", and you wont get a child out the country without the right papers signed and sealed by the courts !!
If you and the Mother have no idea where the father is, then you need to talk to a lawyer in her city to find out how you go about it in his absence.
One other good idea, Get the boys on your side !!!
They need to want to come here, a Lot, and if they do, then they will help to sway their father to sign (even if you have to pay him it will still help to have the boys gagging to come here) and that cant be bad for you, only good :o)
Tim you are very help full. Every time you give me information I come out with somthing else new for you. I have good news with the boys father and the paperwork for them, he has already agreed that they can move to UK with their mother, infact he signed through their court system only last month. I and my wife to be were very supprised that he did this for us, infact we thought this would be the hardest part. He does not support them in any way only seeing them very rarely in the past 4 years.
Once again Tim thanks for your help (keep it comming please)
Well Steve, its looking like you got most of what you asked about already covered :o))
Your were Very lucky with the father issue !! No one I have ever heard of has ever had it that easy !!
So now all you have to do is get the papers from the home office, and then get all the evidence together to prove your sustained relationship, and arrange for her interview etc, but the home office will tell you all about that. Its likely to take you about 4 to 6 months to get this sorted, with all the papers that need to be gathered and then waiting for the interview at her end (typically 3 month waiting list for these, they are very very busy at the embassies with applicants !!) Once you have a date for her interview I would suggest that you go there when it will be, and at least be with her to go to the embassy, if they need to ask you anything you will be right there to answer, and also you can take all the papers you will need with you too, bank statements, copies of Her letters to you (UK embassies are far more interested in what she has written you and how many times than what you may have written her, they are looking for reality and commitment from her, also knowledge about You from her, she really needs to know as much as possible for the interview) Proof you have a home for her and the boys to come to, photos of you two together, and you will also need Your birth certificate and if applicable your "decree absolute" from a previous marriage (if you have been married more than once already they will only want your last "decree absolute")
All this done ans you are pretty much set :o))
You also need to talk to Gladiator, he is from "Scouse Land" and he has his lady with him right now, their wedding is in 2 weeks, I'm going to it :o), and he will be able to tell you even more than I can about this route as he has done it, though without the children issues, which for you shouldn't be any problem at all :o)) You are a very lucky guy to have got the fathers sign off so easy !!!
Oh Steve, one final point I forgot,
you will need to prove that you can support not only her but the boys too of course !!
Provided you can do that, and fulfill all the other bits of info and stuff they want, you shouldnt have too much trouble getting her and the boys here, the only thing is it wil take time and be very frustrating at times, but Im sure you will get through it and I wish you both all the best :o)
If you need any more help, guidance or whatever, just holler :o))
There ya go mate, that number should get you rolling :o))
After you get her here, and you are married, one year after her fiance visa expires or 1 year after the wedding, you will need to check with HO about that one, but you will get her passport back with a visa to last her a set amount of time) About 8 weeks before that expires, you need to call this number to arrange the papers for her to stay permanently
0151 237 5478
Thats the Brum office which deals with "right to stay visa`s". Give that number a call and if its not the nearest office to you that deals with this they will redirect you to a nearer one.
I have given you this one as its the nearest one to me and the only # I have available at the moment ;o)
hi im gerlie im applying for fiancee visa i want to know what are the requirements because the information that giving the web of uk visa is really hard to find ..pls help me...
Gerlie,
www.google.com search for the British consulate nearest to you. In most countries it will be the capital city, in Russia it will be either Moscow, St Petersburg or Ekaterinburg, there is one in each.
There should be information posted on the website.
Just one point for TimH , the uk wont take a years tax with nothing in return because the lady is not permitted to work for the first year...within weeks of my wife ( then fiance on fiance visa ) coming here she had written invitations from health service for FREE consultation/medical, UK doesnt suck its one of best places in the world in which to live.
The last change in the rules date from the 2nd April 2007, and may change again anytime, so don't rely upon 3 year old advise further up this thread.
Contrary to what's stated above, the spouse can work after marriage. Quote......
"When you are married or have registered a civil partnership, you can apply for a two-year extension to your visa and, if your application is granted, you will be allowed to work. Near the end of this time, you can apply to stay in the UK permanently. Before we can give you permission to stay in the UK permanently, you will need to pass the 'Life in the UK' test."
hi i have a boyfriend in the usa as of yet we have not met but he is comeing here in october for 6 months then he is going to go home and sort out the visa thing for us to get married if we get on as well as i think we will.
he is comeing here alone and we are going to be liveing in the uk and just need to know everything we need to do to sort it out
could you email me on inacent-23@hotmail.co.uk
Sounds complicated Tara,
If he, as being in USA suggests, an American then he will need a UK right of abode before he can apply to sponsor an immigrant.
Thereafter I guess he will have to demonstrate the same as a UK national, that he has a job, that he has a home for you both to live in, that he can financially support you etc. etc. etc.
One complication that might arise, and the authorities might take into consideration, is what if he has to leave UK and return to USA, I don't think the USA will allow an FSU immigrant such easy entry as the UK do, I understand the visa application can take a year and I don't think the UK will allow you to remain there, without him, for a year or perhaps longer.
Martin_FFC, this may not be correct. If the American has an EU passport (ie from having say Irish grandparents or even great grandparents) he can apply for his wife to join him in the UK under a family permit which is free and must be processed straight away. All he needs to show he intends to work in the UK and they are married and its not a marriage of convenience (Embassey must prove this). The application is based on EU law are there is bugger all the UK embassy can do to deny the permit unless the wife has been deported from the UK or denied another visa. He doesn't even need to prove he has funds or accomodation to support her.
Yes Ben but there is nothing in tara's post to indicate any right of abode.
I advertise for EU jobs all the time whereas EU rights are advertised as a requirement and I get inundated with applications from Americans, Indonesians, Middle Easterns, South Americans, you name it I get them.
And many claim to have EU rights thru ancestry but they must have a passport of the EU or rights to live & work in that particular country, let's say an individual has French ancestry, then he may apply for French rights but he wouldn't have automatic rights thereafter to live and work in any other EU country than France.
You mention Irish ancestry giving UK rights, OK if he has an Irish passport then he can live and work in UK but then the UK authorities might not approve a visa application for an FSU immigrant cos he isn't British and he might have to return to Ireland or indeed USA and where does that leave her, her UK visa would not be valid for Ireland.
"You mention Irish ancestry giving UK rights, OK if he has an Irish passport then he can live and work in UK but then the UK authorities might not approve a visa application for an FSU immigrant cos he isn't British and he might have to return to Ireland or indeed USA and where does that leave her, her UK visa would not be valid for Ireland. "
Wrong. He is excerising his treaty rights and as an EU citizen working in other EU country. The UK authorities must issue the family permit. This is not a UK visa and the UK authorities must apply EU law not UK law which is much less strict. However if hes Irish they even have the same rights as UK citizens under a speical agreement so if he did apply for a UK visa (not an EU family permit which is free) he would be treated the same as an UK citizen. The only advantage of applying for an UK visa over a family permit is that she could obtain a UK passport in 3 years instead of 5.
Of course they must have a EU passport and you can get an Irish passport via a grandparent. This is not true for the UK and I'm not sure about other countries. Yes she would need a visa for Ireland if he was to return to Ireland.