So, who out there in forum land is still in the "kid in a candy shop" mode?
Back when I was a boy (here at Fiance.com about early March), I did feel like a kid in a candy shop, spending way to many hours perusing the countless profiles of FSU lovelies. It was such hard work, lusting after so many lustable women! How I long for that simpler carefree time of my life! You know hooking up with 10 women at once, thinking that I was Wm. Skakespere and all.
Actually I could not be any happier now with my Lil' Lu.
But it seems that most of the forum crowd have gone beyond the 'Candy shop period', and are engaging them selves with few or even one lady.
Surely, though, there must be guys out there just getting there feet wet, and just sorting through the gals. I for one would like to hear from you; how it's going, and how you guys are feeling about things.
Don't be hesitant to jump into this forum to give us your thoughts and ask your questions!
I think that the "Kid in a Candy Shop" post still has legs.
Also, my selfish reason for bringing it back is that Worldtraveller uses this post for his pop visits, as he brings his wisdom and tidbits about Moldova.
Worldtraveller, if you are out there, keep the Moldovian info coming! I was wondering about your thoughts on Moldovan men. How do they treat their women, is it different than other FSU men? Also how ought I to behave with Lucy's family (parents, brothers sisters etc.) Are there any family social customs I ought to know so as to make a good impression, and to not embarrass myslelf? Lucy's mother is ethnic Moldovan, her father is from the Ukraine. She was raised in Ungheni, and lives now in Chisinau.
"Surely, though, there must be guys out there just getting there feet wet,"
Feet this month, who knows what next month !! :o))
Golden rule number one, dont fart in front of your prospective inlaws, they dont like it very much, and especially if its their turn !! ;o))
"and to not embarrass myslelf?"
Ens my dear friend, you are a western man, the chance of you being there longer than 24 hours and not making a tit of yourself in some way has HUGE odds !! But dont feel bad about it, we ALL will do it in one way or another, when 2 totally different, and make no bones about it they are Totally different cultures meet for the first time it can be very very starnge. Also think about the fact that Lu is the very first Russian woman you will ever interact with, so you are not certain what to expect, and on the other foot, You are very likely the first American that Lu will ever meet and interact with, its bound to be strange for a while, maybe even longer !! You both have much to unlearn about each others cultures, and a Hell of a lot to learn :o))
See, we got totally off topic, but everything I have just said in here is useful to those who are new to this, and I didnt even make a new topic to raise the points !!
I was writing several girls at one time and it started to get confusing. Then I found one (not the prettiest) but who seemed to have the same valvues as myself. I decieded to go all or nothing. Will probably be visiting her within next two months. She's from Kazan but wants to meet me in Moscow where she has relatives and had intended to visit this summer anyway. It seems a lot easier to me to have someone meet me in Moscow. No plane changes etc. My only worry is why she said she wanted to meet so quick into our letter writing. The second letter she sent me. Am I worrying over nothing?
Also I need to start talking to her over the phone with a translator. Any good ideas on that? I was going to use her agencies service which is $4:00 a minute. Any cheaper ways to get a translator?
Its not unusual for a lady to want to meet a man asap, after all you wouldnt walk up to a pretty gilr and ask her for her email address so you can write to her for 3 months before you ask her for a date !!
Just go with your instincts and see how her letters progress, if you hear alarm bells, dont ignore them !
I was quite surprised when Lucy invited me to be with her on her Birthday for April 12 when we had been writing for only 2 weeks. I wish I could have gone then but I could not. But as the months have gone by any doubts about her sincerity and all have vanished. She is the real deal and then so much more.
Lucy did not come accross as a studio model in her profile, but she was really cute, and her overall physical makeup was perfect for me. In subsequent photos she has sent me I have been over joyed by her looks.
And most importantly we shared the same values, and her temperment is just right for me. And to top it off she is crazy for me (quite refreshing after too many years married to an unhappy, unkind, demading grump - who was (is) physically quite beautiful - but only an ugly swine to me where it really counts.)
Ensanta, How did Lucy react to you being a man of the cloth and all. I've been wondering about how spiritual these girls are after 70 years of anti church leadership under the Comuminst rule. I know of one Russian soldier who was tortured for 6 months for helping to smuggle Bibles in to Russia.
I took the lawn chair, but the bottles of beer would have caused me to be escorted off the school property.
Lucy knew from my profile that I was a protestant clergyman. So any women that I wrote to and who wrote me back knew what my career is.
I figured that those who wrote me back, did not at least initially object to my job. Early on in my letters to Lucy (who is Russian Orthodox) we discussed my job more. The following was her responce in a early letter to me:
"I was glad to find out more about you and I like your
occupation. It's a good job to give blessings and guide people
in life. I like also that you are tied to church principles,
so you must be really good man. Could you send me some
pictures from where you work?"
I certainly don't preach at her. But I try to speak as normally to her as I do to those I speak with here. I have a Christian bent to my conversation without being overly religious. I would not want Lucy to come to the U.S. and be with me and find out that I am different then I have been with her.
Man, I started a thread a while back about FSU women and church and spirituality. There was a lot of good input both from men who have had experience with FSU women and their religious practice, and from FSU women themselves speaking of their practices. The thread was entitled : "Sitting in an English Garden", it should be on forum page # 4.
I am sure that each woman is different, but in general, despite the anti-religious dogma of Communism, most people retained some identity as Christians (Mostly Russian Orthodox - whose core beleifs are in common with both Protestant and Roman Catholic churches.).
"I've been wondering about how spiritual these girls are after 70 years of anti church leadership under the Comuminst rule."
You will find more religious and church going women in one FSU city than in any US state you want to mention. Religion is a big crowd puller there, its something better than they have, to believe in.
There are a proportion who go to church however, not because its their faith, but because it is fashionable and admired to do so, so they go, and next day they are back on the net sites scamming foreigners :o))
Ensanta, I do remember that thread now that you metion it. ................Tim, ...I am currently involved with a girl who is trying the "ticket/visa" scam on me ( actually there are 3} but one told me she was a church going Christian good girl to see if that would soften me up.....if she does go to church , I dought if she pays much attention. .....Ah...don't worry, Ive been stringing them along just to waste their time and ...it's also a source of cheap entertainment!!
It is strange how similar things turn out for us all.
I too started with many, and my inital intentions were to goto an area and meet a few. Now I have just the one. Not my idea steriotype blond longlegs model. not the prettiest. But her letters shined from all the rest. her personality is dinamic and she has a great warmth about her. Shall be going to Cheboksary within the next month I hope.
Ben - I shouldn't worry about her askin 2 meet early on. - i myself have done this often, usally as a little test to see how serious they are, it also helps to sus the scammers as they usally speed up the scam then. Me and my las talked about meeting from the beginning that was in febuary, now we are really talkin about it, most nights. can't wait for my phone bill !!!
Ensata - if you have a favorite pair of slippers - I urge you to take them with you to Moldova. You will remove your shoes right inside the door of wherever you are staying and you will put slippers on to walk inside the house. If you do not know this tradition you will look like a fool. If you do not bring your own slippers you will impose on your hosts to provide you with a pair. This is just one of the things that you will find in Moldova that will take you by surprise.
I agree 100% with TimH when he says that as a western man there is virtually an absolutel chance that you will make a tit of yourself withing the first 24 hours of bing there. The odds are, furthermore, that they will tell you so, as Russian concepts of politely overlooking social errors are not necessarily the same as ours.
Man:
LOL good one mate, keep em stringing along as long as you like, it will waste their time and money and you wont lose a damn thing :o)) I love playing games with scammers, it is very stress relieving to give them some of their own shit back now and then ;o))
NB: For Ben,
I have mentioned it in past topics, but to save you looking there :o))
I have always gone for the meet as soon as possible rule, I have met 3 women in all, (not counting one I dated while I was in Tashkent divorcing my X ;o)) ) The first one was a total scammer, but she still met and spent time with me, the second one I married, and that went shit shaped after 3 months (I payed for a holiday for her to go back and see her friends and family, she screwed around and got pregnant by a kid 7 years younger than she is !! so I divorced her) And the third is my Natash` who I am currently planning to go back to in about 3 and a half weeks time :o))
The first one I met 6 weeks after we started writing. The second the same time frame, but unfortunately I was tied up in a house sale and didn't manage to get to Natash` for about 10 weeks, but I wanted to go much sooner than that, and she wanted me to go to her sooner, but understood why I couldn't go immediately.
"This is just one of the things that you will find in Moldova that will take you by surprise."
Wont be much of a suprise now though Jet ;o))
And its NOT just Moldova, almost All FSU countries have the same custom.
Be prepared to turn red, coz you can bet a pound to a pinch of shit you will do something wrong, and yep, someone will tell you so !! But dont be too upset, they wont be angry with you, unless you trod on the cat, or farted while greeting Great Babushka !!
Gotta add slippers to my shopping list! Thanks jet.
I'm afraid there's not much I can do about the flatulence though! I'm betting that the Great Babushka will be impressed with the tone and tenor of my indiscretions. The cat will be safe though.
Speaking of flatulence (and amazingly I seldom talk about that in real life - but no matter) I developed a wicked case of just that while in Moldova. Didn't get hit with a nasty case of the runs at any time. But I sounded off early and often with extremely thunderous flatulence. We had thin walls (the better for my Moldovan to listen closely that I wasn't calling someone else) within the suite and she was a lot more amused by my trouble than I was.
Ensata (and ALL travelers to the FSU) take some "Beano" or the equivalent. Technically the problem is caused by partially digested proteins of the sort found in legumes, and a lot of things I never eat great quantities of at home, like cheese and other dairy products and sausages. Whatever the cause - I had it from the moment I got there (to Moldova) and until I returned home. Three weeks of that fun stuff.
Better forewarned than to trumpet your arrival - over and over again.
Fortunately they didn't have to encase the hotel in massive layers of concrete. And the halflife of my personal ecological disaster is probably anytime now.