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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Back from Vlad Author Post jdb66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 6:24:18 PM   Since I thanked you all for you wonderful posts that led me to having a successful trip, I thought that I would post how it went. The roughest part by far was travelling, but that was just due to the length of the flying not because of any incidents. Everything was a breeze getting there and customs in Russia was as easy as in the U.S. I will say that it was the trip of a lifetime. I spent my time with Irisha living in her grandparent's flat as they had gone to Dacha already. I will say that this is much better of an option that a hotel if you have the opportunity to do so. We had to learn very quickly what it would be like to live 24/7 with each other and to have to deal with the language differences. Her english is only fair to good. One piece of advice I will give to anyone going is to make sure that you pack all your patience and take it with you. Irisha was abolutely amazed at how little waiting for everything bothered me and found that the people there admire patience quite a bit. (This is particularly true for the American crowd, patience in the U.S. is nothing compared to what is needed in Russia) But I will now say that the advice that is out on this forum is generally spot on. Happy to write more if there is interest. Jeff tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 6:42:10 PM   an intersting insight jdb,m thanks GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 6:42:47 PM   Welcome back, Jeff I posted in another thread that the most glaring reason why americans traveling abroad are disliked is their 'desperate need for instant gratification'...otherwise commonly known as blatant lack of patience. Even though it is manifested on different levels, this cultural trait makes americans earn their reputation as the worst mannered people on the planet when they are guests in another country. I guess you had to learn it the hard way, but Jeff I hope the lesson did not ruin your relationship potential. jdb66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 6:48:01 PM   Toad... I did not have to learn that lesson there at all :) I was merely mentioning to those planning that it is something worth planning to have. My high level of patience enhanced the relationsip potential. One other thing do not argue with a Russian woman about money...you will lose....:) That is the one thing I did find out the hard way...as she let me pay for absolutely nothing while I was there. She would get offended if I did as I was her guest. One more point of interest. Women there do not understand why we say "Thank you" so much. When leaving I thanked her for everything and she took offense saying that why would I say thank you when she was only doing the things that come normal for Russian woman. BTW - we are now engaged as well. jdb66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 6:48:51 PM   Talk about a run-on sentence........ GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 6:58:40 PM   CONGRATULATIONS...!! Man Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2004 1:20:51 AM   It is not just the Russians that think we say "thankyou" too much. I have come across other cultures that think it is ridiculous too and I happen to agree with them. crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2004 7:48:14 AM   Thats great news Jeff, congratulations! How long did you go for, and how long was your flight if you dont mind me asking. Are you starting the fiance visa yet? gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2004 9:01:41 AM   Let me add my congratulations to you too Jeff, Hope everything works out for you mate. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2004 1:12:55 PM   OKOKOKOKOK....it looks like we also say Congratualtions too much too, lol... Get with the 'gory' details, Jeff..:))) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2004 4:22:39 PM   Welcome home Jeff, good to hear it went well ;o)))) Do not argue with a Russian woman about ANYTHING ..you will lose !!!! is nearer the truth :o)) "BTW - we are now engaged as well." "BTW Your horse is pregnant" "BTW I just stole your wallet" "BTW You owe me for the gas !!" Im mean !! Just drop it in casual wont you !! ;o)) BTW ... CONGRATULATIONS :o))) jdb66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 10:15:33 AM   Thank you all for your congrats. Well Tim - Dropping it in casual always lets you see who is paying attention when you write :o) crash - I went for 10 days and ended up on the plane for 20 hours going west 16 coming east. I am in the process of getting fiance visa started but forgot to get a regulation 3/4 view photograph, so now I must wait for that to come from Irisha. GLT - and which gory details would those be????? We had a wonderful time in all respects. She took very good care of me while I was there and was not only much more responsive to my attention then Western woment, but paid much more attention to me as well (you may read this however you want and it will apply;o). GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 10:38:37 AM   jdb, How did you find Irisha? fiance.com? agency? street corner? refereed from someone in the US? One of my neighbors is a family from Russia. when the wife learnt I am seeking an FSU woman she transformed herself into a godmother matchmaker...:)) I am a bit leary about this type of connections... jdb66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 11:10:09 AM   We met through a different agency. I was just getting to sign up on fiance.com because I wasn't terribly pleased with this other agency, when Irisha and I started talking. She was the 4th FSU woman I had talked with and things clicked. The one advantage I did have through all of this was that I had friend from Minsk who helped guide me from the get go in my search. It was her that got me on the searching the first place and until she went back home "approved" my choices so to speak. As in who might be less than honest. Luckily she never turned into a matchmaker for me. Following her instructions and Irisha's guidance as well there was never any issues while I was there and no-one even looked at me like I was an American tourist. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 11:45:24 AM   I think the most pertinent point here Jeff is that you got the "guidance",and thats what matters. There are so many ways of starting a search for a lady from the FSU,and almost endless sources of help,but finding someone you can trust as you have done,is almost the best route. crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 11:45:55 AM   Do you speak any Russian at all? How about your fiance, does she speak English? Hmm a regulation 3/4 photo... I was going to take alot of photos but I didn't know about that. Thanks Jeff jdb66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 3:58:08 PM   I speak a minimal amount of Russian (10 or so worda and phrases), she speaks English at what most would consider a beginner to low-intermediate level. But I brought along a PocketPC with AbbyLingvo installed on it and we were able to get along fine. It was the easiest for the first couple of days and we probably could have used a translator at times, but we got along fine if I spoke simply and slowly. She was learning very quickly as time went on and by the end of the trip we were doing very well. As for the photo you may want to check the instructions for the fiancee visa, because they are very specific about what they want. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 4:21:03 PM   In time JD you will pick up more and more Russian and your girls Englaski will improve fast too. She does have an advantage over you though, she has already learned to read English at school, so she has the jump on you, as of course until now the only Russian words you ever knew were Het and Da, and if you watched the film "The Great Escape" you will have picked up "Ya Lublu" from Charles Bronson :o)) jdb66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 4:27:20 PM   Actually she preferred "Ya tebya lyublyu" and "Ti takaya nezhnaya". But I knew a little more than Het and Da. I actually found myself trying to converse with the Korean merchants in Soeul in Russian on the way home...talk about being given an interesting look =) I had one year of Russian in Universtiy so some did come back... TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2004 7:47:22 PM   Cool :o)) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Back from Vlad
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