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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Eating in the FSU Author Post scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 10:44:38 AM   I brought it up in another discussion, but I think it is worth dedicating a topic too. Each culture has their own style of food, what is viewed as good to eat, what you would not touch with a ten foot pole, and what is just totally foreign. So, I will open this discussion to the following areas. 1. What is considered standard fair( I.E. what is normally consumed on an everyday basis in most of these countries?) If we are to be influenced by available literature, we would think that cabbage, borsht, and bread are the main staples with sour cream. I somehow doubt that to be accurate. 2. When dining out with your lady, you should pay for dinner, right? There seems to be some customs issues raised recently, where doing so would violate the custom of being a guest. 3. Is tipping viewed differently for your server in restaurants? 4. What dishes are likely to take you "unaware". In that, what might look bad but is actually very good, and vice versa? I realize that is pretty person specific, but you have to start somewhere. ---- I think that's enough to start. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 12:30:14 PM   OK so I start with answering to the first question. Please keep in mind that I answer for Ukraine and there maybe differences for other countries, I will name the differences, those which I know :) 1. What is considered standard fair( I.E. what is normally consumed on an everyday basis in most of these countries?) Potato (cooked differently, boiled, fried, mashed, stewed, baked) Meat (fried, boiled with different spices, different dishes containing meat). Vermicelli of different kind, eight just with butter or with cheese, or ketchup, usually with meat or fish (fried most of all, but salted herring with onions (marinaded in viniger with sugar) is very very popual). Salo (this is the difference, in Ukraine it's very popual especially with garlic and salt, in other countries of FSU I know that salo is not so popular). Borshch (it takes rather a long time to cook it, but on weekends most people cook it, as it's the traditional Ukrainian dish) Vareniki (With different fillings like berries, cottage cheese, mashed potatoes, another traditional Ukrainian dish) usually follows with sour cream, or friend onions. Pelmeni (it comes from Russia, the filling for it is meat). Different soups of any kind, there are so many of them it won't take much time to name them;) Different salads. Sandwiches with cheese, meat and mayonnaise, ham and ketchup and so on. Different dishes in pots. That's a very tasty thing, you put for example meat, potatoes, mayonnaise, cheese and mushrooms into the pot, and put it into the oven. Different dishes with meat, which can ve cooked either in the oven (Don't mis with dishes in pots), or on the gas-stove. Different cookies, pattys and cakes, and so on. It's thought to be great if a girl can bake herself, though you may find a greta range of cakes in the shops. OK this is just a short introduction into the Ukrainian dishes;)) But I feel so hungry right now that I will have to go and have a snack:) Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 12:41:19 PM   2. When dining out with your lady, you should pay for dinner, right? There seems to be some customs issues raised recently, where doing so would violate the custom of being a guest. Usually the custom that the girl is not paying when dining out. When once my boyfriend wasn't able to go the meeting of our friends, and I went without him, I didn't pay my part, though I intended so at first, I was pat a shame with one of my friends, and he said "you don't pay, I will pay for us 3 (we 3 had wine), and then I will settle accounts with your boyfriend". Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 12:42:46 PM   3. Is tipping viewed differently for your server in restaurants? Usually they take 10% from the price of the bill for the service, and you don't need to give the tip. In some they don't take such 10%, and anyway you may not give the tip, it depends on you personally, if you would like to give something or not. scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:08:03 PM   Ketchup and pasta. That's a new one for me. Vareniki sounds like Pierogi. Am I missing something? Your different dishes in pots sound mostly like a casserole. Pelmini seem very similar to Tortellini. Yep, you've got me hungry, too! Thanks very much for the response. scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:10:53 PM   I'm not too sure about SALO. Salted pig fat is mostly what I find. I would agree this would be a good ingredient in soups or stews for flavoring. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:13:37 PM   Vareniki and pierogi are 2 different things. Pots and casseroules are too 2 different things. Pelmeni is very similar to vareniki but have a different shape, and are filled with meat. Salo, it's right a salted pigs fat, but it's also eaten with garlic and bread, or may put it into the borshch. scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:15:42 PM   Also out of curiousity, what is th e primary meat source? In the U.S., we beef is the primary meat. I realize this is also probably region specific. Just curious. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:16:58 PM   Meat??? Different, pig's meat, beaf, veal, poultry. We don't keep to a specific kind of meat:) scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:21:23 PM   Neither do we, but beef consumption is the highest in the United States and probably closely followed by Chicken or Pork. After the mad cow outbreak, I would think beef consumption in Europe had dropped considerably. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:23:29 PM   No we eat meat of the national production most of all. The import of meat to Ukraine is a very low, as far as I know. Oh I have forgotten to add rabbit's meat, usually at the villages people have 10-20 rabbits and they have fresh meat always:) scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:34:32 PM   Oh, I've seen some pictures about eating raw garlic with meals. You'd be quite the popular person at parties here doing that. :-) Actually, I happen to like pickled garlic. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 1:37:27 PM   Actually the new garlic doesn't give the smell:) So you can eat as much as you want and will not have any problems with that:) philb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 2:58:41 PM   I always seem to eat more fish when in the FSU. Also, it seems to me that the amount of meat I eat when in the FSU is less than what is typically consumed in a given day in the US. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 3:48:27 PM   Yes it's correct, at least here in Ukraine fish is not very popular, meat is more popular:) As I can speak definetely for myself, I have to eat meat at least once a day or I feel hungry:) Actually I eat twice a day, or even once when I'm too busy:) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 4:37:10 PM   I love a well made rabbit stew :o)) Its so much tastier than chicken :o))) And has more legs too !! Bonus :o)) Everyone can have a leg :o)) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 4:39:09 PM   "you put for example meat, potatoes, mayonnaise, cheese and mushrooms into the pot, and put it into the oven." I have eaten this dish Many times, its wonderful :o))) Just thinking of it is making me hungry !! :o))) Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 4:43:02 PM   :)) And I was thinking about buying pots, to enjoy this dish:) And while I don't have pots, I cook this dish on the plate in the over, but the taste is really a different one. scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 5:04:12 PM   Ptichka, I may have misunderstood. Are you referring to what we might call a "dutch oven" pot or earthenware pot? Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2004 5:06:09 PM   It is an earthenware pot. It is the best to use such pots to cook delisious dishes:) It's just the taste is different:) And you don't have to use oil or fat for cooking:) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Eating in the FSU
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